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Monotubs producing heat?
    #26981985 - 10/12/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I have a issue I haven’t ever had before. Usually I am running 1-2 tubs, but in this case I have more all stacked side by side on a shelf, my enclosed closet that I keep the tubs in usually stays around 72-74 degrees but I checked it today and noticed it was 82 for a majority of the day’s, which I did not like. I have my lights on 12/12 schedule and they are on during the day. I also noticed my tubs are physically warm to the touch, and producing a lot of humidification inside the tubs, which is good at 72-74 degrees but at 82 I don’t think so. I think it’s fine in fluctuation but not at full days on days. So I’m thinking either the tubs are all generating heat together, or maybe my lights are hot? I have 6500k LED, and I have 2 ballast and 1 small ballast. They are warm if you place your hand super close to the bulbs, but from afar they aren’t.

Maybe run my light cycle to where the lights are on during the night when it’s cooler outside and easier for my ac to keep room temp? The rest of the areas the same ac unit is running to are 72-74, but room the tubs are in get your to 80 during the day. Any suggestions?


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26982013 - 10/12/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You didn't say how many tubs, but if you're running LED lights, the heat is coming from the substrates not the lights.

So running the lights at different times I think is going to be unhelpful, you may have to just cycle more air through the room to get some of that heat out.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: Forrester]
    #26982141 - 10/12/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There’s about 8-15 tubs at a time. And I had the fans on low and turned them to medium. FAE within the tubs look good. But I have really no exit for the air. It basically circulates and only exits through small cracks and when I open the door. I Opened each run and could feel the heat inside the tub, so I fanned them heavily and checked 30min later and it felt a lot better. I adjusted the fans too. It was a hot day today but it shouldn’t struggle That bad, I was thinking if there’s a small ac unit type deal that can dispense extra cold air into the room as needed on a thermostat Meter or something.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26982167 - 10/12/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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You didn't say how many tubs, but if you're running LED lights, the heat is coming from the substrates not the lights.

So running the lights at different times I think is going to be unhelpful, you may have to just cycle more air through the room to get some of that heat out.




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There’s about 8-15 tubs at a time. And I had the fans on low and turned them to medium. FAE within the tubs look good. But I have really no exit for the air. It basically circulates and only exits through small cracks and when I open the door. I Opened each run and could feel the heat inside the tub, so I fanned them heavily and checked 30min later and it felt a lot better. I adjusted the fans too. It was a hot day today but it shouldn’t struggle That bad, I was thinking if there’s a small ac unit type deal that can dispense extra cold air into the room as needed on a thermostat Meter or something.




I have run dozens of tubs without any heat build up issues, but I don't know the dimensions of the "closet" you are using. Are you thinking about cooling the room the closet is attached to with that AC unit, or just the closet itself? Those are very different scenarios. Also, if it's an option for you, get one of those door flutes/grates. You know those vented square panels you can install in the lower half of a door? Really increase the ability for the small space to get better air circulation, and you can still have the incognito nature of a closed door if that's what you're after.

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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: Becky G. Spot]
    #26982260 - 10/12/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Forrester said:
You didn't say how many tubs, but if you're running LED lights, the heat is coming from the substrates not the lights.

So running the lights at different times I think is going to be unhelpful, you may have to just cycle more air through the room to get some of that heat out.




:whathesaid:

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CaspuuuR said:
There’s about 8-15 tubs at a time. And I had the fans on low and turned them to medium. FAE within the tubs look good. But I have really no exit for the air. It basically circulates and only exits through small cracks and when I open the door. I Opened each run and could feel the heat inside the tub, so I fanned them heavily and checked 30min later and it felt a lot better. I adjusted the fans too. It was a hot day today but it shouldn’t struggle That bad, I was thinking if there’s a small ac unit type deal that can dispense extra cold air into the room as needed on a thermostat Meter or something.




I have run dozens of tubs without any heat build up issues, but I don't know the dimensions of the "closet" you are using. Are you thinking about cooling the room the closet is attached to with that AC unit, or just the closet itself? Those are very different scenarios. Also, if it's an option for you, get one of those door flutes/grates. You know those vented square panels you can install in the lower half of a door? Really increase the ability for the small space to get better air circulation, and you can still have the incognito nature of a closed door if that's what you're after.

:goodluck: XOXOX




Dimensions is 6ft x 4.5ft by 10ft tall, the closet has a air duct from the houses ac unit. I was talking about adding something to provide more cold air, just a thought. I know what you are talking about with the grates. I could add one to the door or the side wall. But the closet is a add on, not a original room, it is insulated and has electrical and air ducts ran to it, and it has stayed consistent temps though colonization phases, as soon as I introduced the room to 8 fruiting tubs with polyfil and lights and fans, the heat went up it seemed, as it’s getting cooler outside the room is cooling, so I know I could be loosing some temp to the rooms possible shitty insulation, but I’ve had no issues before hand for months keeping temp, it leads me to believe the tubs are jacking the heat up, I believe I have good FAE cuz I Can see the airflow going into the tubs by the way the condensation is looking. I can post pics if needed. I’m trying to figure out how to find the perfect FAE by just looking at the tubs and being like yup, nice FAE there lol. I have the fans pointing at the walls and not directly at the tubs.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26983771 - 10/13/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



Here is update pictures. I feel like I waited a little too long to fruit, two tubs show trich already. Gonna throw them out. Also, I feel like I have shitty FAE and co2 building up is my problem


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26984399 - 10/14/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I feel like I have shitty FAE and co2 building up is my problem




If you're getting trich before the 1st flush I think you have other problems to worry about first.  Like your spawn.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: Forrester]
    #26984412 - 10/14/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I feel like I have shitty FAE and co2 building up is my problem




If you're getting trich before the 1st flush I think you have other problems to worry about first.  Like your spawn.





Yeah I’ve had issues with a few other bags. I can’t tell if it’s blue or green. I think some of these bags I spawned sat for a day or two before G2G, this is also from spore. So I’m gonna drop some spores to agar tomorrow night or the next and go from there and start my inoculations with agar rather than with spores.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26984486 - 10/14/20 04:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Those pictures look ok. The surface is definitely bruising from probably too much water.


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26985334 - 10/14/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Those pictures look ok. The surface is definitely bruising from probably too much water.



I’m starting to stress because I see no pins and are tons of droplets/ water on the substrate. It looks like I’m not having anything evaporate. I have 2 fans in the enclosed ac ran closet. I am adding a exhaust fan to let the air escape. And I’m going to add a fan booster to the closet. I’m not really sure what I’m doing wrong at this point. I know I waited to long to fruit, but most my tubs look good. 3 of my tubs have gotten trich out of 10 tubs


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26985639 - 10/14/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



I added a exhaust vent and I have positive pressure so when the closet is closed it is constantly letting air out,’hopefully this will bring better FAE also installed ac infinity Inline air fan to boost more FAE


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #26985681 - 10/14/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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CaspuuuR said:
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A.k.a said:
Those pictures look ok. The surface is definitely bruising from probably too much water.



I’m starting to stress because I see no pins and are tons of droplets/ water on the substrate. It looks like I’m not having anything evaporate. I have 2 fans in the enclosed ac ran closet. I am adding a exhaust fan to let the air escape. And I’m going to add a fan booster to the closet. I’m not really sure what I’m doing wrong at this point. I know I waited to long to fruit, but most my tubs look good. 3 of my tubs have gotten trich out of 10 tubs




How is your field capacity going in? Maybe go drier than you think next time, and then a little drier still. If I'm still getting things dialed in I'd rather have a sub that is thirsty than have a wet sub and all the problems it invites.

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I added a exhaust vent and I have positive pressure so when the closet is closed it is constantly letting air out,’hopefully this will bring better FAE also installed ac infinity Inline air fan to boost more FAE




:congrats:

It might help with FAE and have the added benefit of dropping the temps in there as the positive pressure pushes warm air out. Good thinking, it just might do the trick in that regard. :thumbup:

Better to try that before cutting a hole in the bottom half of your door with one of those flutes I recommended earlier :rofl:

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Edited by Becky G. Spot (10/14/20 05:59 PM)


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Re: Monotubs producing heat? [Re: Becky G. Spot]
    #26985776 - 10/14/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think my FC was really wet. I read a tek that said no pasteurize is needed,  did the bucket tek basically and then spawned. I didn’t even measure my sub to my spawn, just basically 50/50 that tub, I know it’s irresponsible but I’ve grown a few times in the last couple years, but figured I got it, but usually my fruiting room is a large room
With normal FAE.  I noticed the temps went from 75-72 within 30mins so I’m assuming since I have positive pressure and everything else, I’m good to go. Spawned 10/4, put into fruiting 10/11, so I’m hoping to see pins soon, I think my sub was way to wet, I turned my lids upside down to promote more FAE & more evaporation.


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