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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Shenmue] 1
#27001116 - 10/24/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Why would it matter if she wants trump over biden? It's politics not religion lol! Most people I know rarely even talk about politics. Dude if you break up with a girl just because she likes trump over biden you have serous issues.
It’s not that she has a preference for a different candidate. It’s that the kind of person who still supports Trump is not a good human being. There is something wrong with these people that goes far beyond politics. MAGA is a cult and their values are trumps values and that man has no values.
To be fair, I probably wouldnt date LC because he’s so into UFOs and numerology and LC is probably the best boyfriend you could get.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: koods]
#27001179 - 10/24/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont know anyone in my group of friends or family that would make such a decision over a political view. Not a single one. Im so glad i dont! Its really sad to see though... I dont wanna judge about it, but i cant help but do.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: tomnl] 1
#27001212 - 10/24/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It’s not a political viewpoint. It’s the lack of judgement and/or moral degeneracy a person demonstrates by continuing to support this objectively dishonest, ammoral, incompetent and unfit president. Donald Trump has no business running this country. He’s not qualified for the job and he’s a sociopath. If you’re voting for trump you’re a loser and unpatriotic
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: tomnl]
#27001222 - 10/24/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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tomnl said: I dont know anyone in my group of friends or family that would make such a decision over a political view. Not a single one. Im so glad i dont!
You don't live in the US do you?
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27001260 - 10/24/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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tomnl said: I dont know anyone in my group of friends or family that would make such a decision over a political view. Not a single one. Im so glad i dont!
You don't live in the US do you?
Nope, good ol Europe
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: koods] 1
#27001264 - 10/24/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: he’s a sociopath.
Thats the requirement to be any president isnt it?
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: koods]
#27001320 - 10/24/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: It’s not a political viewpoint. It’s the lack of judgement and/or moral degeneracy a person demonstrates by continuing to support this objectively dishonest, ammoral, incompetent and unfit president. Donald Trump has no business running this country. He’s not qualified for the job and he’s a sociopath. If you’re voting for trump you’re a loser and unpatriotic
Those are my thoughts as well. Like, she still supports him after everythings that happened? She must be brain-washed by the Trump cult, thats my conclusion.
And yes, the UFO and Numerology studies are strong with me. I only briefly talked about Aliens with her (she was kinda openminded about it) but no Numerology talk.
Recently, Ive been seeing some ladies profiles supporting Cops. Similar feelings as with Trump supporters, its basically a deal-breaker for me. I hate Cops and I do not support them or the people who support them (even thou Cops are sorta "necessary" in high-crime areas).
The whole experience reminded me of my ex-GF who hated Trump like I did, so that was easy to agree on between the two of us, but yet she was not respectful to me, so I had to end that relationship....
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: koods]
#27024577 - 11/06/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Being a trump supporter wouldn’t be an automatic deal breaker, but I doubt I would even be attracted to the kind of personality necessary to be MAGA.
Do you want her?



that pretty much answers your question
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: koods]
#27024579 - 11/06/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Why would it matter if she wants trump over biden? It's politics not religion lol! Most people I know rarely even talk about politics. Dude if you break up with a girl just because she likes trump over biden you have serous issues.
It’s not that she has a preference for a different candidate. It’s that the kind of person who still supports Trump is not a good human being. There is something wrong with these people that goes far beyond politics. MAGA is a cult and their values are trumps values and that man has no values.
To be fair, I probably wouldnt date LC because he’s so into UFOs and numerology and LC is probably the best boyfriend you could get.
You do what is right for you. What is right for Koods.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: imachavel]
#27024594 - 11/06/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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imachavel said: Do you want her?
Jesus you just can't leave her alone can you?
Sounds like you have an obsession.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#27034377 - 11/12/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My brother actually has ended a relationship for more or less this reason. They met in high school and were together 5 years. He's politically something like a Shoe0nHead, certainly not right-wing but definitely not SJW type. His girlfriend went full-force into the SJW culture (this was during peak Tumblr times). She became so aggressive and obnoxious about everything that he fell out of love with her and started to hate being around her. He ended up just not sleeping with her or being emotionally close to her for months and she eventually left.
I think it really boils down to the why. I did have a close friend who I had a crush on for years who was/is a Trump-supporter. Her brother is a Navy Seal and after Clinton's handling of the embassy attack in Libya, coupled with Trump's isolationist policies, she supports Trump. She's not loud about it and I can't fault her for it. Now, the loud people waving Trump flags, screaming to drain the swamp, calling everything "fake news", following Q and basically acting like arrogant cult members, I couldn't even be real friends with one of them. They are not people who can be reasoned with. They use emotionally reasoning for everything. I believe that they have that predatory thinking (many on the left do too). They think: If team A is in power, whatever abusive and oppressive things that team A does are okay because if team B got in power, they would do the same.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Darwin23]
#27034384 - 11/12/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have anything additional to add to the subject matter at hand (I've already shared my feelings on this), however I do want to bring up, Darwin23, that as your brother said that he 'fell out of love' with a person, that I do not believe that he was ever actually in love with this person in the first place. It sounds like a relationship that was based on hormones and chemicals rather than any type of true or deep love.
I bring this up only because it is somewhat a difficulty of mine to hear people say that they 'fell out of love'.
Perhaps this could be considered me derailing the thread but personally I think it's a very pertinent question. If you can fall out of Love with a person, were you ever truly love with them?
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27034408 - 11/12/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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That question is a big one to ponder. I suppose it depends on how we define "love".
If we fall in love with who someone is, if that person changes, should that love be required to remain?
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27034416 - 11/12/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe u can "fall out of Love" with someone over time. Its like learning more and more about your former love interest that you dont like. At first, its not a big deal but perhaps over time, the person who you loved starts to do such behaviours that you can no longer stand. Like a person who's into politics that gets more and more extreme about it. At a certain point, can you still love them for who they have become?
There were times were I felt some "love" for this Trump supporter lady I discussed in the OP. They were short-lived but there was some slight love feelings there. Then I heard her be outspoken about her support for Trump and bashing Democrats and I knew that we couldnt be friends no more....
Also, thanks for sharing that story Darwin23. I can definitely relate to that story. I
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#27040766 - 11/15/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Darwin23 said: If we fall in love with who someone is, if that person changes, should that love be required to remain?
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LogicaL Chaos said: At a certain point, can you still love them for who they have become?
See IMO - and I know it may seem a little arrogant of me to say this, but I feel very strongly about it - I feel that both these statements belie a misunderstanding of what love actually is.
Understandably so; nobody ever teaches us what love is, and the version we get sold through the multiplicity of sources that feed into us from the moment we can ingest it, is often a corrupted, marketable, and mistaken idea of what love is too.
Love, by its very nature, is unconditional. If it aint so, then it just aint love. It's admiration, and lust, and desire, and respect, and wanting, and all number of other feelings that are closely tied to and experienced at the same time as love, but not love itself.
I think all those things can quite easily disappear when someone changes, but not love. Love is the bit that remains behind; because once you do truly feel it, it doesn't go away.
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Whatcha reckon?
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27053563 - 11/23/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just watched an 8 year marriage fall apart because of it.
She was from a rich yuppy evangelical family very liberal pro BLM, husband is conservative beef farmer whose family has had to work for every penny.
She has had every car bought for her, where he has had to fix every car of his.
Why does this matter?
Because politics was the breaking point.
Now she is moved back home across the country with their three kids while her mom and dad pay for everything and do everything now and HE is paying support because HE simply had a different political outlook.
He is now selling their house and farm and moving himself to PA to try and save his family but she is sooooooooo far up BLM butt I don’t think it’s happening.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jewstress]
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27123131 - 01/03/21 02:40 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: It sounds like a relationship that was based on hormones and chemicals rather than any type of true or deep love.
What is love (baby, don't hurt me)? I don't want to commit myself to the belief that love is nothing but a bunch of chemicals and hormones, but I find it extremely challenging to come up with some other definition. It's something humans seem to care about an awful lot, but it also seems like we don't even know what it is. Our best definitions of love are all negative ones: love isn't sex, love isn't lust, love isn't jealousy, love isn't conditional, etc.
I'll admit that I also share your conviction that love isn't just a bunch of hormones and chemicals, but I'm left with the haunting feeling that such a conviction only pushes love further away from our everyday experiences and into the abstract.
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Re: Is a Relationship Destined to fail for people with Opposing Political Views? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27125778 - 01/04/21 10:30 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nonagon Infinity said: I'll admit that I also share your conviction that love isn't just a bunch of hormones and chemicals, but I'm left with the haunting feeling that such a conviction only pushes love further away from our everyday experiences and into the abstract.
For me, it brings about the opposite; the realization that love is frequent and abundant. It's always with us, when we know it truly. I'm reminded by this realization not to confuse love with chemical drives, however.
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