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Offlinecody420
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Another Texas ID
    #2697897 - 05/18/04 05:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I went for another hunt in the same spot today...


Habitat - South Texas, In cow shit.

Characteristics of the gills: Greyish/brown color

Characteristics of the stem: Bruises blueish/purple, very smooth and skinny, hollow

Characteristics of the cap: Light brown, darker towards the ends of the cap

Scent of mushroom: Regular mushroom



I'll post more pics later, I reached my upload limit..

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InvisibleYrtlzmo
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. [Re: cody420]
    #2698098 - 05/18/04 06:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Edited by Yrtlzmo (02/07/13 09:56 AM)

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2698214 - 05/18/04 06:48 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

They do look like Pan Subbs. They might they also be Panaeolus cyanescens, which are also active. (for all i know they might be the same thing with differant names, lol) Definatly do a sporeprint and post the results! Either way it looks like you found what you were looking for, very cool!

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: bongoboy2000]
    #2698721 - 05/18/04 09:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Here's the rest of the pics... Oh yeah, I'll most likely have a spore print up tomorrow...





(Sorry for the blurry pics)

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2698818 - 05/18/04 09:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Definate candidates for pan subs. If the spore print is "jet black" I think you're a winner. I can't see the blue bruising in the pics, have any close ups?


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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: LoverOfMana]
    #2698867 - 05/18/04 10:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not able to get a close up picture of the bruising... It's more of a dark purple bruise/almost red though. Also, I started making a spore print earlier and I checked it a few minutes ago and it looked "jet black" as you said...


Here's a shitty picture of a bruised stem:

Edited by cody420 (05/18/04 10:17 PM)

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2699315 - 05/18/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Cody hopefully you found some Copelandias...your pics are very blurry


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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: OldSpice]
    #2699344 - 05/18/04 11:41 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I hope they are some kind of active mushroom.. I'll upload more pics soon and a spore print as well. Can someone give me a positive ID from the information provided?

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2699369 - 05/18/04 11:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Just chill Cody ...Someone will id it for you soon
Im an old Tx picker so just sit tight....We do have the best Mycologist in the world right here dude :smirk: I think you might have Copelandia :smile:


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: OldSpice]
    #2699389 - 05/18/04 11:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I know, I'm just very anxious... this will be my first time to shroom...if I ever find some active mushrooms, that is. :smile:

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2699406 - 05/18/04 11:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Ck your ratings Tx boy :thumbup: :smirk:


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2699428 - 05/19/04 12:03 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Unfortunately I don't think you've found Copelandia cyanescens... Cope cyans bruise blue very heavily. Yours have no apparent bluing. If you're not familiar with the bluing reaction, your eyes might be playing tricks on you. I still don't understand why people say mushrooms bruise purple, I've never seen a mushroom bruise purple in my life. If anything, the bluing reaction will look blueish green.

Here is a picture from mjshroomer's website of Copelandia cyanescens:
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species/bestcopepicture1.jpg

Notice how intense the bluing is on those mushrooms. All Copelandia will bruise like that because potent mushrooms.

If your mushrooms won't bruise like that, but you still insist that you see blue on them, perhaps you have an active species of Panaeolus. Either way, your find is not poisonous. The worst that would happen if you ate them is stomach cramps and diarrhea... Even the active Panaeolus mushrooms do this to to some people.

There still might be a chance that they are Copelandia cyanescens, I'd wait to get an opinion from mjshroomer or ggreatone23; they've both picked thousands of copes and know them when they see them.

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: Gumby]
    #2699447 - 05/19/04 12:07 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Whats that other one he found? its the one thats toxic


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: OldSpice]
    #2699481 - 05/19/04 12:14 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Alounacara :smile:

Here's another pic of the bruised stems...

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: OldSpice]
    #2699656 - 05/19/04 01:05 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Alounacara said:
Whats that other one he found? its the one thats toxic




What other one? What's toxic? What? Huh? What?

I'm so confused...

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: cody420]
    #2699990 - 05/19/04 04:18 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The dark ring at the bottom of the cap is telling me P. subb. or P. foen. Check if the stem is hollow white fibrils (thread-like things); check to see if the gills grey, NOT BROWN look very closely; check to see if there are white fringes on the gills, and check to see if there is a black spore print.

If you answered all yes, you have an active Panaeolus.

Oh, and if these are indeed P. subb. then it's amazing that they were foudn in cow shit, they usually aren't.

Edited by thearmedforces (05/19/04 04:24 AM)

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Re: Another Texas ID [Re: thearmedforces]
    #2700108 - 05/19/04 06:57 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Subbs have nbo ring on the stems near the caps and neither do Panaeolina foenisecii. Those are not subbs and I doubt they are Copelandias at all. Some kind of Panaeolina or panaeous which is not psychoactive.

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