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Why dont I see anything?!
    #2697999 - 05/18/04 05:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

hey,

The reason for my post is to ask experienced shroomerz for any possibilities of why i dont hallucinate. I have tried mushrooms at least 7 times and the most intense visuals I have ever seen was the ceiling moving a little bit and wood grains in my cabinet start to breathe. My first trip was 1/2 eight with no effects. everytrip after that was at minimun an eighth. the most i have taken was 5 grams and that was when i had mild hallucinations. what the heck is the deal? my buddies trip hard off an eigth.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698047 - 05/18/04 06:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The mushrooms you took could have undergone a number of problems in drying, such as overheating. Did you grown them yourself? Either way, I suggest you try mushrooms from another source. Also, just making sure, but 1/8 oz is of dried not wet shroomies, right? Are you taking any anti-depressant or SSRI medication? Best of luck in finding out your problem, keep us posted.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698055 - 05/18/04 06:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I often don't hallucinate much even on high doses. Yet sometimes, I see the craziest stuff on low doses. And it's not about potency, as the high dose, minimal visual-yielding trips have always been the most powerful mentally.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698086 - 05/18/04 06:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You need to learn to let go. :crazy: :mushroom2:


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698093 - 05/18/04 06:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yes that is dry and no i am not on any meds. I have had mental effects and i tell me friends that i trip but i just dont see anything. they say "man, u havn't tripped then." anyways, they have all been from different sources but I remember who i got the strong batch from. I did not grow them myself cause i live in CA and as you all know they wont ship a damn thing out here.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698104 - 05/18/04 06:23 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

yes, that is what i have been told. This could be true to some extent but I took an eighth at an A Perfect Circle concert and I felt so free, I just didn't see anything but for the first time i did feel a peak.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698165 - 05/18/04 06:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Hallucinations are such a minor part of the mushroom experience. I much prefer egoloss, exploring your mind, meditating and melting away, and other things mushrooms can offer. But yeah, hallucinations can certainly be amusing :smile:

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698170 - 05/18/04 06:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

maybe you're focussing too hard to 'see stuff' just enjoy the ride and see what happens.
not everyone hallucinates the same. some of my friend don't have closed eye visuals, ever. I have massive closed eye visuals on a good dose.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2698216 - 05/18/04 06:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

just eat em and enjoy


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: gdman]
    #2698429 - 05/18/04 07:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

yeah don't get hung up on trying to "see" things just let go,peace Gypsy


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: peleg]
    #2698569 - 05/18/04 08:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Thats what I plan on doing, I have always wanted to meditate but somehow forget to. I am supposed to do them this friday but I will have to be confined to a small area and I don't know if im down with that.Thanks for the replies, btw I live in Goleta right next to santa barbara CA if anyone knows any good shroom spots please let me know. peace.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2699178 - 05/18/04 10:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

do them alone

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    #2699431 - 05/19/04 12:04 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

done that about 3 times.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2699730 - 05/19/04 01:57 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Let me offer my say. maybe your tolerance is just high? The first few times ive done about an eight, I saw minor visuals like you did, but I had a body buzz and felt giggly. I need about 70 wet grams to begin to get good visuals and experience a real trip. However the body load gets quite intense starting at 70g though. I feel hot, sweaty, numb and its hard to walk. also you feel flu like and even breathing is a little hard. Maybe try just relaxing and laying on bed and just stare at the ceiling. I trip harder that way than walking around looking at everything and try to make it move, lay back and let things come to you. can you up the dosage?

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2699767 - 05/19/04 02:22 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i think people let this idea build up that you will "see all kinds of crazy shit". its not necessarily all the hype that you hear.

people always blame it on "oh, acid was better in the 60's" bullshit.

take your drugs and enjoy what you get. if its not good enough for you then quit taking them and shut the fuck up.

btw, this post wasnt really directed towards anyone. im just speaking of in general.


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2699992 - 05/19/04 04:19 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

stop looking for hallucinations and then they will reveal themselves


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2700053 - 05/19/04 05:57 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Did you trip at night? Many people don't get visuals if there's to much light. Try a dark room!

What others said: let go, enjoy the ride, don't focus to much on the visuals, tripping is more than just visuals, at least it is for me.

edit: You could try some weed...

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2700091 - 05/19/04 06:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, you need to let go, its easier for me to let loose when im alone, thats why i say do them alone.

i think that is fucked up dude, i see mad shit! so much i usually just lay down and check out the closed eye and feel very euphoric, upon opening eyes shit just gets crazier.

have you eaten fresh? i find that the brf grown shrooms are no comparison to the wbs grown shrooms, man, 9g fresh wbs grown was just as awesome as 15 fresh brf grown. an eighth of wbs grown is intense as fuck, whereas eighth of brf grown is like "meh..." feels more like 2g of the wbs grown.

try growing on grains if you grow, if you grow grains, then yeah man, let go stop expecting shit, just BE. enjoy the experience for what it is.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2700128 - 05/19/04 07:09 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I f you want to see visuals than you need to consume more shrooms than you normally take. And then in complete darkenss except for a candle.

thousands of users complain they never see anything and what do they do . Eat shrooms and go surfing, go to a park, go to a forest. The darker the room the more visuals one will see. They are also seen with eyes closesd and a hand capped over the eyes to keep out extra light.

The mazatecs and other Indians of Mexico eat their mushrooms in near total darkness, less a few candles.

They have doneso for thousands of years.

They must know something we white folk do not know.

Many people say to me, "Hey man, or Dude, I get high but I do not see anything."

Well I say to them becasue of the frivelous way they do the shrooms, "Maybe you weren't meant to see anything."

Does that make sense?

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2700266 - 05/19/04 08:16 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

wow does wbs(wild bird seed?) shrooms really have higher psilocyblin concentration than wwf/brf grown shrooms? I need a good 70(!) wet grams to begin a real trip and not just a little buzz and minor swirling but an intense mental and visual trip. yes try doing them in the dark, although in a lit room I still get visuals anyway. the lights are pixelated, the walls breathing, etc

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: shrooms777]
    #2700301 - 05/19/04 08:32 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

hell yeah man, i find them to be much more potent, so do my homies, and plenty of people here at the shroomery.

but i watched cartoons play out on my wall off of some fresh brf grown shrooms, so i mean...heh, they are still good and all, just wbs ones are definitely better. my friend fell out of his body off of 30g fresh wbs grown shrooms, hahah, imagine that!

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2700635 - 05/19/04 10:18 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think its just all tolerence. I have a friend who ate 8 grams twice didnt even trip. Yet he says he tripped better off a 1\8th one time than both those times. He also ate a quarter and went to school :O he ended up skipping and going to a buddies. He gets a body buzz he says but no hallucinations. He says he would eat an O if he had it.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2702308 - 05/19/04 04:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Smoke weed with it?

Generally helps out the visual aspect of drugs for me.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2702387 - 05/19/04 05:14 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i dont get many visuals on shrooms either...only wheni look at myself in the mirror, when ilook at my drum set, and when i look at my mom.

sometimes there will be sick patterns on the ceiling n shit, but not too often.

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: shrooms777]
    #2703810 - 05/19/04 11:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

THanks a bunch guys you all rule. I will be injesting around the neighborhood of 1.75 eighths this friday. I need to know how to prepare my body and mind for the trip. Any tips on ingesting them would be cool. The first time i took over an eighth the come up was uncomfortable and i felt like it was all just one lump in my stomache. it sucked

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2705643 - 05/20/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

don't eat anything a few hours before the trip, and smoke pot (if pot is part of your daily routine ie. your used to it's effects) after you dose. Should take the edge off.


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2706605 - 05/20/04 03:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

don't eat before hand.
meditate for bit, just to get relaxed and calm.
have beano and pepto bismal at hand :smile:
try putting the shrooms in chocolate, it's delicious!
Remember to chew those bastards nice and good.
Whatever you do, don't freak. Relax. Enjoy.
Smoke the ganja :smile: Cures nasea and feels goooood

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: jux]
    #2706977 - 05/20/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

thats the plan...I know of one method of meditation that I learned from my music teacher. I close my eyes and focus on my breaths until my thoughts go away. Can you guys recommend other techniques?>

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2707384 - 05/20/04 05:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

im gonna hook u up with a good technique, it is good for preparing for a shroom trip i think, basically it is to review negative aspects of yourself(ego) and review positive aspects of yourself(heart, the real you, the only you that there really is), and then to help you to realize that you dont wnat to be that negative asshole, you want to be positive always.

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The Dalai Lama has been acknowledged by Tibetan Buddhists to be a reincarnation of the God of Compassion and by the world in general to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner but few know him to be a practicing meditator. All his life, he has been surrounded by masters of meditation and has been initiated into many different techniques. It is therefore appropriate that we pay attention when he points out one method so valuable that he does it everyday:
Remember when you were a kid and they often had cartoons where someone had a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other and they were whispering into an ear -- one encouraging doing "bad" and one doing "good". In a way, that's the basis of the Dalai Lama Meditation technique.

Sit quietly, calmly with eyes closed, as relaxed yet aware as you can be. Visualize yourself on the left side of your minds eye as you would appear to yourself and others in a moment of impatience. Really see this inner vision. Watch your face, observe your body language. What does your impatient self look like? On the right side of your minds eye, see yourself when you are very patient. What do you look like when you have a lifetime of time. As tense as you appeared on the left as your impatient self, see yourself as relaxed in your patience on the right. Now on the left side, see yourself as you appear when you're depressed. Look carefully. How does that make you feel? Can you be aware of the aura of doom and gloom you're radiating? And then, on the right side of your minds eye, see yourself as you are when you're joyous. Merge with that happiness. Know how others would see you.

Continue seeing all the seemingly negative feelings and behaviors on the inner left-hand side of your minds eye and the opposite on the right. On the left, see yourself as jealous and on the right as how you appear when you are truly glad for someone else's sucess or happiness. On the left, see the bigoted you and on the right, the all-embracing. On the left the mean, on the right the sweet. See the stupid you and the brilliant. See the clumsy and the graceful. On the left, see the unsatisfied and on the right, the contented.

Go on and on, becoming familiar with the "you" on the left and the opposite "you" on the right. Then see the total "you" who would be there on the left if none of the characteristics of the right side were present. Now see the "you" who would be the totality of yourself with the right side only if none of the behaviors and feelings of the left side "you" had ever appeared.

The Dalai Lama tells us that there is nothing else necessary because just by seeing your negative left-side self, you will become so disgusted with yourself when you witness yourself acting in any of the left side ways that you will automatically cease any of those actions and start doing and feeling the right-side actions. Eventually, you will become the right-side you exclusively. Eventually, you will have peace, compassion, wisdom, good health, patience, and all the other glorious aspects of life.

This technique has the potential to change your life profoundly for the better. It is one of the best antidotes for negativity. It is consistent with his unlimited compassion that the Dalai Lama has shared it with us.



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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2708019 - 05/20/04 07:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

mushrooms is not just about seeing things...


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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2709797 - 05/21/04 02:23 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

try eating a quarter then just laying in bed and stare at the celing. I always get visuals. u gotta relax and let it flow :smile:

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Re: Why dont I see anything?! [Re: mahavishnu]
    #2710217 - 05/21/04 07:24 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

If you are sure that your shrooms are good, it could be that you are a little hard headed, but don?t give up.
Visions come very easy to me, but to my best 2 buds they don't, just like you.
They do get all the other feelings of the trip, but not the visuals, but I help them and now they have them also.
First a few observations I made by my own experience.
Some times you are seeing visuals but them you forget them.
I was able to pinpoint exactly what happens just before the visuals start, and I describe it as the calling of the mushrooms.
For this you need to quite down a bit you will feel like you are melting or falling, some times there is a little resistance from your part to fallow them (fear of the unknown), if you let go, visions will start, if you resist they wont, try to be aware of what's happening to you during the trip.
I got so proficient in hearing this calling that, I know when to go on by my self, this feeling comes in waves during the trip. (you can't force this, so just relax and quiet your mind) once you find the "click" you will have visions from then on, I even get then now with very low dosages.
But like many said here visions are not the only thing you should look for in a shroom trip.
I trip at night and in a nature environment, needles to say that if you go parting with a lot of people and distractions your chances will decrease.
As a foot note, It took me a few times with dmt (so I know how frustrating you must feel to get good visuals), but my buds got them right away, strange.
But again here, the secret was learning to ?let go?


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