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Mouldy shrooms?
    #26979553 - 10/11/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hy

I opened my jar of shrooms.. I noticed some white stuff on caps.. It could that be mould? I tried to scrape some caps with nails and the thing doesn't seem to get way like mould ussually do.. Is this normal? It's first time that i have shrooms that long (i eat them very fast 😁)



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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26979995 - 10/11/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt anyone is going to be able to tell anything for certain from those pics, but if they were cracker dry when you put them in a sealed jar, and they're still cracker dry now, it's not mold.

If they were not fully dry at any of those times, it could be mold.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Forrester]
    #26980121 - 10/11/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I doubt anyone is going to be able to tell anything for certain from those pics, but if they were cracker dry when you put them in a sealed jar, and they're still cracker dry now, it's not mold.

If they were not fully dry at any of those times, it could be mold.





I'll try 2 provide better pics soon as i get home.

I think they were soft a little when i put them in jar. I'm using jar for the first time so i didn't know they must be cracker dry. They were crisp today when i tried 2 squezze them.

Thanks btw. Better pics will be soon.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26980239 - 10/11/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta snap them in half at the stem to see if its "cracker dry".  You should toss all those moldy ones and do it the right way with a vacuum sealer which still needs to be cracker dry or same results.

  Looking at the pictures they don't look dry


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26980340 - 10/11/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll try 2 provide better pics soon as i get home.

I think they were soft a little when i put them in jar. I'm using jar for the first time so i didn't know they must be cracker dry. They were crisp today when i tried 2 squezze them.

Thanks btw. Better pics will be soon.




Nah I wasn't trying to complain about your pics, I don't think even great pics will tell us more than you can tell yourself.

If you think they were soft a little when you put them in the jar, I would throw them all away. 

Cracker dry is key, if there's doubt about them being that way when they went in, I would toss 'em to be safe.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Forrester]
    #26980793 - 10/12/20 01:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ok i'll just toss them. It will gonna be hard 2 do that bit i'll do it. Just for curiosity. What if i boil them for some time can i salvage them like that? I read psilocybin is stable at that temp psilocin isn't. So in theory i can do that?

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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26980890 - 10/12/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You could boil 'em and likely be just fine. 

But if it were some kind of harmful mold on them you're just boiling the toxins from it into the tea as well.

The thing about mushrooms, they can be a bit rough anyway so when you're going through THAT you don't really wanna have to wonder, "gee, is this a toxic mold making me nauseas or just the mushrooms?"


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Forrester]
    #26980904 - 10/12/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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You could boil 'em and likely be just fine. 

But if it were some kind of harmful mold on them you're just boiling the toxins from it into the tea as well.

The thing about mushrooms, they can be a bit rough anyway so when you're going through THAT you don't really wanna have to wonder, "gee, is this a toxic mold making me nauseas or just the mushrooms?"




😂😂 Ok i see your point.. I was gonna throw them away but on close inspection i stopped thinking they are moldy.. Yesterday i was already tripping 😅



This white spots were the problem but i know this white spots are already on the caps when they grow 😅

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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26984244 - 10/13/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

your stomach acids can break down metal so I guess cross your fingers and do what you gotta do.  I wouldn't eat no mold though nasty.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #26984432 - 10/14/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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your stomach acids can break down metal so I guess cross your fingers and do what you gotta do.  I wouldn't eat no mold though nasty.




thanks for your concern. i wouldn't eat mold to. i eat it enough on Gorgonzola and brie cheese but on this shrooms i don't notice any mold while i'm sober.

P.S. i'll notice you if i get sick this weekend as i'm planing to trip again so we will see who is right


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #26991669 - 10/18/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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your stomach acids can break down metal so I guess cross your fingers and do what you gotta do.  I wouldn't eat no mold though nasty.





10g of shrooms and didn't get any nausea

You would cost me 200g of good quality of shrooms


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26993069 - 10/19/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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You would cost me 200g of good quality of shrooms




  You must be part of the new generation you did a piss poor job of learning proper techniques and get offended by people trying to help you from 1000's of miles away.  Like I said before if you want to eat mold go ahead.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #26993074 - 10/19/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

cracker dry is the way to go.

growing lots of mushrooms is really easy. dont be attached to any batch. just grow some more


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26993080 - 10/19/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It's amazing they grow fruits and don't take 5 minutes to learn proper drying and storage methods.  This site is a wikipedia of knowledge and these fools be lazy up in here.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #26993084 - 10/19/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

basically everything has been answered at this point in the shroomery. triple check before even thinking about asking questions. the answer you seek is definitely already here.

use a food dehydrator to dry. no, potency will not be affected. dont use calcium carbonate, use a food dehydrator. dont eat moldy food. store cracker dry mushrooms in a mason jar, or vacuum seal them for long term storage.

better yet, dont grow more than you can eat


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: Big_Dub]
    #26993270 - 10/19/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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You would cost me 200g of good quality of shrooms




  You must be part of the new generation you did a piss poor job of learning proper techniques and get offended by people trying to help you from 1000's of miles away.  Like I said before if you want to eat mold go ahead.




ok whatever.. i told you there isn't any mold on shrooms because i wouldn't even touch them.. in that case i would eat them only if i were sure that mold is penicillium.. on bread is usually Penicillium chrysogenum which produce antibiotic penicillin.. i like mold on cheese which sometimes is penicillium mold too.. like Penicillium camemberti.. they make brie cheese with it..
so yea i want to eats mold but on CHEESE not shrooms


I'm sorry for my aggression but i got the feeling like you are attacking me with statement "cross your fingers and do what you gotta do".. i got that wrong.. sorry again 


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better yet, dont grow more than you can eat




ok if i would eat 2g per trip i think i wouldn't grow that much like i do.. but i like to grow that much because my trip is usually 10g.. i trip almost every weekend so this batch lasts me around 6 months.. so what is better growing 10 times per year or 2 times per year?? and i get optimal temps only in spring or autumn so i really don't have other choice

plus about not affecting potency with drying.. do u realize that psilocin degrade with drying? did u try fresh mushies anytime in past? where dry as potent as fresh? NOT... only way to keep psilocin is with cool drying i believe but it's expensive.. in cubes there is almost same quantity of psilocin/psilocybin.. around 0.60%/0.60% i believe.. and this 0.60% psilocin goes away when u dry them maybe not all of it but lot of it

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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26994119 - 10/20/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

maybe that's true, but have you actually verified the chemical profile of your batch? Im all for theory but at the end of the day, we dont really know how much psilocybin/psilocin/whatever is in our shrooms- only speculation.

a large number of members of this community reccomend food dehydrator to dry. none of us want you to grow weak, shitty shrooms... we want you to grow the best shrooms you can in the most efficient way possible

i have eaten fresh and dried several times. IMO Set and setting affect you more than anything.


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Re: Mouldy shrooms? [Re: wikeland]
    #26994126 - 10/20/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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ya thats the remains of the veil. you good dawg:thumbup:


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