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Salj
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Button Mushroom Growing Help
#26979492 - 10/11/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi guys! I have been growing oyster mushrooms successfully since my very first attempt. However, I am now planning to start growing button mushrooms. I am growing them in my basement under ideal conditions. However, I have never grown a single button mushroom and would like help in the following areas. 1. How much yield does 1 kg of button mushroom spawn produce? 2. Should I be using growing bags (That is the most convenient) rather than getting long racks made. I would go for whatever is best in terms of yield. 3. Theres obviously very little video content online on button mushrooms as opposed to oysters.. but if there is.. I would love it if you can share the link. 4. Any general starting information will be great! This platform has been really helpful and I hope the information we share here is of use to anybody who comes across it. Anyhow, I will be grateful for your help and will keep everyone posted along the way. Thanks!
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Re: Button Mushroom Growing Help [Re: Salj]
#26979979 - 10/11/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never grown them either, but here's the little I know:
You should be able to grow them in bags, trays, or whatever really, it's up to you. Bags work for most species.
The main thing to know about Agaricus if you don't already is that it's not a wood lover like most edible species. You probably want to use manure, compost, or a combination of both. Make sure to pasteurize properly.
Sorry that's about all I know, maybe others will have more to help!
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Re: Button Mushroom Growing Help [Re: Salj]
#26981451 - 10/12/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agaricus bisporus is grown on compost. There's a short description of the process in the center of this page.http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/apr2001.html
You can do Phase I composting in a composting bin, one that's 80 to 100 gallons will be big enough to generate the heat with the bin helping hold in the heat to favor the bacteria that will make your compost a good substrate. You can use grass or horse manure with a couple of cups of gypsum for this. You'll need to turn the pile 2 to 4 times for this part.
You can probably do smaller batches, but you would need to add heat to it somehow to keep the compost in the range that favors Actinomyces bacteria.
For Phase II you can put some of the Phase I compost in a large plastic bag spreading the compost so it makes a pancake and let it sit in the sun and then air the bag out. Might have to do this a couple of times. This isn't ideal but it will work. If you are going to grow indoors you'll need to pasteurize it again, either in the plastic bag in the sun or some other way to get rid of any bugs.
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Re: Button Mushroom Growing Help [Re: falcon]
#26982704 - 10/13/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am planning to use bagged compost to use as a growing medium, one which is derived from manure and is heat treated already. Got an experienced growers opinion who thinks it will be fine. Please let me know your thoughts. Whereas making your own compost/manure mixture is good, if this does the job then it would save a great deal of effort. I'm really just looking for the most convenient way.
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Re: Button Mushroom Growing Help [Re: Salj]
#26983813 - 10/13/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Take a good look at the compost before you buy it. Most of it is more dirt, sand and small pieces of wood than compost. The bags are heavy because of the sand. I've seen bagged compost that was all organic stuff, but it doesn't happen often at least with the bags that I've bought.
A substrate that would be easier to make on a small scale, probably wouldn't need as much turning either, straw with something like urea or chicken manure as the nitrogen source.
edit: This thread by Hotnuts just got bumped, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6743156
I was trying to think who it was earlier after replying to your thread who I don't think he actually had posted a tek for making compost, is well worth searching for and reading his posts when he talks about it to get a feel for making compost.
Edited by falcon (10/13/20 06:31 PM)
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Re: Button Mushroom Growing Help [Re: Salj] 1
#28341175 - 05/30/23 09:51 PM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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This is an exciting find written 18 yrs ago on shroomery.org
In 1960s Agaricus Bisporus was grown successfully in spawn bags then using favourite Shitake substrates produced equal amount of harvest to manure methods. Plus substrate was pasteurised 110°C for 20 minutes. No chemicals needed.
Article here
Adapting substrate formulas used for shiitake for production of brown Agaricus bisporus
Authors
Jóse E Sánchez a, Daniel J Royse b
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