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Tripsahoy420
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Come up anxiety and kava?
#26978286 - 10/10/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's been two years (almost three) since my last trip and I get really bad come up anxiety, so I've been thinking about trying out kava to help smooth out the experience. Does anyone have any experience with doing so? I'm planning on dropping either 50ug or 75ug of some new lsd I recently received. Also, what's your guys' opinions on the differences between 50ug and 75ug? How much more intense is the come up between the two?
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The Blind Ass
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If it was me, I’d go with 100ug, mainly bc the only difficult come ups I’ve ever had with lysergamides have been when I’ve dosed anything under 100ug. That’s just my own experience though. Also, kava in general can be hit or miss in terms of anxiolytic effects, Ive even had it cause some anxious energy on its own a couple of times.
As for the come up... The come up is just the come up- like on a roller coaster 🎢, it’s a natural bodily reaction to feel a bit antsy. You don’t have to be antsy, but you can be that way sometimes. Lower doses tend to dispose me to being antsy bc it’s like I’m half way there and half way not and my body & mind feel unaligned in that state. Give me a real trip or give me sobriety, but I don’t like in between. That’s a place we’re one can become more easily swayed by this or that sensation or perception - ie, mole hills can seemingly become mountains. (negatively/unpleasant). But don’t think I’m saying a light trip is bad, I’m not. It’s just this “half way” strange phenomena where one doses enough to be restless but not quite enough to be tripping really that psycho naughts have to kind of figure out how to navigate via trial and error. Goes with the territory. . Personally, I wouldn’t worry about it to much, especially if set & setting are comfy and clear headed & your relatively healthy & have good discernment etc etc. In fact, just by making this thread you reify the notion that you need something outside of yourself to combat the temporary shift we call a come up. When in fact, you don’t. It’s your mind & body (in some ways) so dig deep and recognize the confidence you already have in yourself, you’re a human being human! Also, be respectful of yourself & psychedelics, like one would be when taking a powerful medicine. No need to dose just to dose. There’s usually a reason why we take these things, so figure out what it is your taking it for and then ask yourself - is it appropriate? Good? Noble? Wise? Is this my best move? And if yes, then go into it with your 100% best attitude and be impeccable when you face yourself and the world through the mind when psychedelicized.
But to each their own, I know everyone’s a bit different and also a bit the same, so, with that said, wait and see what others here have to say about it.
Best to you.
Edited by The Blind Ass (10/10/20 11:14 AM)
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Tripsahoy420
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Thanks for the input, honestly my come up anxiety stems from chronic health problems, and while I have been working on taking better care of myself since my last trip, it's a recurring theme with my come ups to have the pain cause me anxiety, and I'd rather not have to deal with it being too intense. That's also why I'm aiming for a lowish dose, to see how it reacts (or not) compared to finding myself in over my head. 🤷♂️
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Tripsahoy420
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Feeling chill on the kava, about to drop, see you all on the other side!!
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Typerwritermonky
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Yeah, I tend to take a small amount of kava before I dose LSD as well too. Gets me nice and relaxed, makes the come up easier and by the peak 2ish hour laters it's worn off and the LSD kicks in full force. I usually dose more LSD though - 150-200ug.
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Hey Tripsahoy420, i hope you have a nice trip.
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