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Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol)
    #26978742 - 10/10/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have a base set shadow-less Charizard that I got from a trade I made with some neighborhood kid back around 1998 or 1999 (IIRC) when pokemon was starting to blow up in the US. From my understanding this "shadow-less" card is one of the rarest Charizard cards around, only the "1st edition" being more rare (?).

The card I have was never played and has spent most of its life in a protective sleeve in a box in a closet. To my eyes it is pretty much in mint condition, no bends or creases, no scrapes or marks seen by the eye, edges are in perfect condition. With a scope there are a few teeny teeny tiny scratches, but those aren't really seen or noticed with the eye.


I just randomly came across all of my old pokemon cards when I was cleaning out my closet so I can hang up and dry all of my weed in there lol. So I started to get curious about the value of the card and looked into a bit. I was expecting it to be worth maybe $100 to $200....I came across one site that was saying the card I have is worth about $50 to $75, but I thought it would be worth a little more than that (maybe it was an old website/page?).

But then I looked around on ebay and it looks like some folks are willing to spend $1,000+ and upwards for this card....Is this for real? I can't wrap my mind around if this is real and how much these cards are actually going for on ebay right now?

These are the listings for the card I have>>>
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1311&_nkw=shadowless+charizard&_sacat=0



The winning bid on this one was $2,900
https://www.ebay.com/itm/402476489289?autorefresh=true

The current bid on this one is $2,650
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-Shadowless-Charizard-1999-PSA-8-Base-Set-4-102-Holo-Rare-NM-M-NEWEST-1/124371769994?hash=item1cf5229a8a:g:0oEAAOSwbIRffkNL

This one is listed for $5,400
https://www.ebay.com/itm/pokemon-shadowless-base-set-charizard-holo-PSA-BGS/402442744171?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200423103423%26meid%3D59e33157b6644f17be2d2728d9626e3a%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D402476489289%26itm%3D402442744171%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

This one is listed for $4,200
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BGS-7-5-w-9-CHARIZARD-1999-Pokemon-Base-SHADOWLESS-4-102-Holo-Rare-Near-MINT/363062845943?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200423103423%26meid%3D59e33157b6644f17be2d2728d9626e3a%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D402476489289%26itm%3D363062845943%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

This one for $1,200
https://www.ebay.com/itm/POKEMON-CARD-SHADOWLESS-CHARIZARD-4-102-HOLO-BASE-SET/124367290132?hash=item1cf4de3f14:g:OroAAOSwj1hfe3ed





Are these #'s for real? Those #'s are so much higher than what I thought it would be I'm having a hard time believing it.

Has the value of pokemon cards gone up recently or something?

For anyone that knows a thing or two about cards & collectibles, is this just a momentary spike in the value or will it likely continue to increase over the years?


I have some other rare cards too, but of course the Charizard is the crown jewel lol.

These cards have so much sentimental value to me and nostalgia that it'd be super tough for me to let go of them and sell, but if the Charizard is fetching four figure numbers right now then I am very tempted to do so.

I know I'd have to get it graded by PSA or Becket for it's true value to shine.





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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind]
    #26978746 - 10/10/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You think that’s bad look at magic cards lol.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26978781 - 10/10/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

get your cards graded and then you can determine their exact value

https://www.psacard.com/services/tradingcardgrading


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26978783 - 10/10/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

charizard, shadowless, grade GEM MINT-10 is listing for over $25k



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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26978794 - 10/10/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

BGS > PSA

PSA 10s aren’t actual 10s.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind]
    #26978806 - 10/10/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26978847 - 10/10/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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BGS > PSA

PSA 10s aren’t actual 10s.




good to know. i never had cards graded, just googled about it now lol


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26978871 - 10/10/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you post pics of front and back I can give you an idea of what it will traded at but it will be a very rough grading because I know a bit about centering on the back of the card, whitening on the corner and just the edges of the card etc. Sounds awesome and I'd like a picture anyway if you can. Shadowless  Charizards are even more rare because one guy owns 80% of 1st edition Charizards produced. He was even on pawn stars with his collection and an expert. I should say at the time he didn't have as much as he does now
This actually tells a lot about the history of the Charizard 1st edition cards there rarity etc. He also explains if it's a great card Beckket grades harsher and some cards that grade 10 on Becket go for 30- 40 grand. Pictures would help to which company you want to get it grade from


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26978872 - 10/10/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:

I invest in a lot of high end magic cards and no one ever trusts a PSA grade.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26978875 - 10/10/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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:thumbup:

I invest in a lot of high end magic cards and no one ever trusts a PSA grade.



That's interesting I guess that settles that part thanks for the info. If I ever get so lucky. Magic and pokemon are such amazing pieces of art really


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26979157 - 10/10/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My pokemon card collection booklet that i still have is so cool. Its got all 3 charizard blastoise veinasaur holographics, and all the best holographics of the first 150. i felt like such a gangster at school with that book in 1998.  Probably not the super origionals that are worth money but, even if my collection was worth 10 grand i wouldnt sell it


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: trees]
    #26979165 - 10/10/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If this is all true....I’m so glad I never threw out my cards.  Ive got 2 of the charlizards and a bunch of the old holographics.

Who wants like 50 holos + 2 x charz✊ -  $1k and it’s yours.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26979166 - 10/10/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26979201 - 10/10/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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charizard, shadowless, grade GEM MINT-10 is listing for over $25k







shit in like grade 5 I had that $800 Blastoise, got it in the first pack I bought, I didnt know anything about pokemon cards and traded it for like a couple commons


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26979211 - 10/10/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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If this is all true....I’m so glad I never threw out my cards.  Ive got 2 of the charlizards and a bunch of the old holographics.

Who wants like 50 holos + 2 x charz✊ -  $1k and it’s yours.




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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind]
    #26979429 - 10/11/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have a ton of old magic cards from when magic originally came out, all in pristine condition. It's my collection from when I was a kid. I sometimes wonder if some of them are valuable, but I could never sell any of it anyway. It's all stuff from like the first couple of years of magic, and I know at least some of the stuff was rare at the time. Still, I could never sell it, but I do wonder about it sometimes.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #26981306 - 10/12/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26986479 - 10/15/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
If this is all true....I’m so glad I never threw out my cards.  Ive got 2 of the charlizards and a bunch of the old holographics.

Who wants like 50 holos + 2 x charz✊ -  $1k and it’s yours.




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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26986574 - 10/15/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sara with some bullshit.  People don’t pay for psa 10s because they’re fake.  I’ll give you that Beckett, maybe is harder cuz they have the 9.5s but gtfo with psa 10s aren’t 10s.  If any of my cards graded out to a psa 10 I’d be ecstatic, how many cards have you bought RAW and had graded. Also a psa 9 and a bgs 9 look exactly the same.  I don’t buy the psa case for one second.  The guy with a Honus Wagner t-206 got it sold by psa, I hate when people talk about how psa tens don’t count its stupid af

I just looked and apparently psa does give  out half point grades now


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The order has to be secret and no one is sure.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26986578 - 10/15/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Any actual collector will back exactly what I’m saying. PSA is also well known for grading counterfeit cards.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26986582 - 10/15/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Psa is wel known for grading fake cards?  :lol:


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26986585 - 10/15/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Any actual collector would pay for a PSA 9 or 10, crack it out and have it graded by BGS.  It can go both ways actually,  with a BGS 10 not receiving a psa 10 and vice versa

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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26986587 - 10/15/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Literally look it up. :shrug:

You obviously just have personal beef with me and are trying to be difficult because of that.

All I’m doing is trying to educate people and you’re just here to start shit.

Grow up.

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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26987048 - 10/15/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Please tell us more of the wonderous world of card collection!

I have zero clue what you guys are talking about with the grading and so on, but you both seem very passionate about it


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021997 - 11/04/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Have you tried tcg player?


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: Sporagami]
    #27022005 - 11/04/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ya, I’ve bought a lot of product off TCG player, why do you ask?

If you’re looking to sell its better to go to a collector directly or ebay.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27312504 - 05/17/21 12:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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If you post pics of front and back I can give you an idea of what it will traded at but it will be a very rough grading because I know a bit about centering on the back of the card, whitening on the corner and just the edges of the card etc. Sounds awesome and I'd like a picture anyway if you can. Shadowless  Charizards are even more rare because one guy owns 80% of 1st edition Charizards produced.....





I forgot about this thread and just came across these pics of my card that I took a while ago, then remembered that I never posted em' in this thread. I only have pics of the front of it RN because I'm too lazy to get the card out and take a photo of the back and then upload it to my computer and then resize the pic then delete EXIF data then upload it to the shroomery lol.

But the back of the card doesn't have any marks or scratches or creases or anything.

To my eyes my card appears pretty "clean" and in decent shape. No creases and no bends anywhere, the card is perfectly straight & flat. No edges are frayed or splitting. On the very top edge of the card there is some very slight wearing, but no fraying of the edges and no delamination. There are just a few teeny tiny specs/scratches on the front/face of the card, most of which can't be seen unless the lighting is right.

I don't know how strict the grading services are. I assume that they are pretty strict and astringent and that to get a high grade a card has to be super duper pristine and that even the tiniest imperfection will drop the grading dramatically? I assumed that if a card has even just one tiny little scratch it would basically drop the card down to like a 3 or 4, but I've seen pics of cards that visibly look way worse than my card have a grading of like 4 to 5. I've seen pics of Charizards graded as 1 or 2 still fetching $100 to a few hundred dollars :crazy: .

I assume mine is at least a 6? I really have no idea though. I don't know how strict grading is or how many points a tiny scratch/spec will take down the grade.


Here's my Charizard! lol ....In the 2nd pic, you can kinda see there are a few teeny tiny specs/scratches. For the most part, though, I feel it's in pretty decent shape. I honestly feel it is in damn near mint condition to my "amateur" eyes, but I'm not a collector and don't have any idea how perfect a card needs to be to be considered "near mint".









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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind]
    #27312526 - 05/17/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

The cut on the Bottom right corner is a factory defect(looks like) I would ballpark it at a 3-4, maybe lower, that one side is rough. The rule of thumb is that a cards overall grade can only score half a point higher than its lowest grade in any subcategory so if those edges get a 3 1/2 because of the defect I mentioning the rest of the card would bring it up to about a four I don't know what they would  grade that edge at  but that will considerably decrease the grade.  I'd sell it as is, but I'm lazy and wouldn't want to bother for a 50 extra dollar turnaround after waiting for the grade and being out the grading money while you wait

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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #27312598 - 05/17/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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The cut on the Bottom right corner is a factory defect(looks like) I would ballpark it at a 3-4, maybe lower, that one side is rough....





What "cut" are you talking about? Or what do you mean by, "cut"?

I'm clueless when it comes to card grading, but I don't see any cut on the bottom right corner of the card?

And what particular side/edge do you consider to be in "rough" shape? Or are you saying the entire front/face of the card is in rough shape?



So only a 3 or 4, eh?

I thought it might be a little higher than that, but :shrug: .

I've seen cards that look in rougher shape than mine graded at or higher than that though. I'm looking at some examples of Charizard's graded at 3 & 4 (PSA) right now and they all have more visible scratches on the front/face of the card than mine and one or more edges are visibly frayed/worn a little bit.




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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: openmind]
    #27312613 - 05/17/21 01:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

That card looks pretty near mint.  Maybe he thinks the shadow from your finger is a missing piece of the card.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: 1234go]
    #27312630 - 05/17/21 02:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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That card looks pretty near mint.  Maybe he thinks the shadow from your finger is a missing piece of the card.





I feel it looks damn near "near-mint" too :yesnod: .

I don't see any cuts on the card or how the front of the card is in "rough" shape?

All I see is, and I'm trying to be "strict" and picky about any imperfection that I see....The top-edge of the card has some very mild/slight "scuffing" (but not enough that it is frayed or splitting or "roughed up"), there is a mild/light scratch in the holo near the tongue that you can see if the lighting is right and the card is held at an angle (not even sure if it's a scratch or part of the art), and I see two other specs/marks about the size of a pin head that are not seen unless the card is held in light and looked at from an angle.

In normal lighting, looking at the card with my own eyes, I don't see anything wrong with the card at all. But under very bright lighting or a flash I can see a few slight imperfections like I described above.




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    #27312863 - 05/17/21 06:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It was your thumb, my bad man lol.  My phone has been loading images blurry and I didn't wait for a clearer one :facepalm:


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    #27312908 - 05/17/21 06:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hey openmind, the card looks pretty good, I'm seeing what is referred to as "silvering" along the top edge, also to the left of the art in that thin area before you get to the border, and is that a silver spec to the left of the text box? Also look closely near Charizard's mouth, that vertical line is referred to as a "print line" and their maybe another on the right side of the art, but the lighting on that side in the pic makes it hard to tell. Something as small as a white spec/dot on a corner/edge when looking at the back of a card can hold it back from a 10 grade, this is why 10 grades fetch such high premiums.

This card is definitely worth grading regardless of this, from what I see and based on what you have described, your looking at a strong 7, possibly an 8. The market for these is good. The centering looks good on the front, carefully take a peak at the back and see if the border on either side is noticeably thicker/thinner than the other side, and do the same for the top and bottom border.


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    #27312963 - 05/17/21 07:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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You think that’s bad look at magic cards lol.




Hey Sara, just wondering what you think of the MTG scene and where it might be 15-20 years from now. I’ve got my tabletop crew but we don’t venture out into the world of cardshops/tournaments. Just wondering if you think Magic is at a peak right now, or if it’ll always pretty much be a mainstay in the realm of card games. Question being semi focused on card values moving forward.

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How much is the charizard worth now in average condition? I have all 3



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    #27312986 - 05/17/21 08:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yours have the shadow though...


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    #27312998 - 05/17/21 08:21 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Not to derail this thread or anything... GG OP - take the money and run haha






Yeah honestly if I had some super valuable Pokémon cards I'd sell them right now too.

Nostalgia is FLEETING.

The pandemic REALLY brought up the value in tons of collectible nostalgia things like this and it will come down. WAY DOWN.


Will they still be worth something? Sure. But nothing like the mania there is today.





And as for the future of MTG card- I'd also say SELL at this peak.The problem with MTG is that it's WAY TOO HUGE- and vast- and the "life body" of MTG as a table top game is DYING.


Soon MTG will be a distant memory. And an OG "Black Lotus" might go for $20 at a garage sale because some little girl liked a picture of a black flower on a slice of thin cardboard.


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That sounds bad, damn shadow. That probably means its bullshit and not OG


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Yours have the shadow though...



That sounds bad, damn shadow. That probably means its bullshit and not OG





THE whole "shadow" versus" shadowless thing takes like 5 minutes to figure out by reading a quick google search article with pictures.


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Yours have the shadow though...



That sounds bad, damn shadow. That probably means its bullshit and not OG





Heh, yeah apparently the shadowless ones are more sought after.

I pulled out my old Pokémon cards recently, and thought I had some gems... but after looking them up online I was pretty disappointed...lol.


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    #27313164 - 05/18/21 01:49 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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If you post pics of front and back I can give you an idea of what it will traded at but it will be a very rough grading because I know a bit about centering on the back of the card, whitening on the corner and just the edges of the card etc. Sounds awesome and I'd like a picture anyway if you can. Shadowless  Charizards are even more rare because one guy owns 80% of 1st edition Charizards produced.....





I forgot about this thread and just came across these pics of my card that I took a while ago, then remembered that I never posted em' in this thread. I only have pics of the front of it RN because I'm too lazy to get the card out and take a photo of the back and then upload it to my computer and then resize the pic then delete EXIF data then upload it to the shroomery lol.

But the back of the card doesn't have any marks or scratches or creases or anything.

To my eyes my card appears pretty "clean" and in decent shape. No creases and no bends anywhere, the card is perfectly straight & flat. No edges are frayed or splitting. On the very top edge of the card there is some very slight wearing, but no fraying of the edges and no delamination. There are just a few teeny tiny specs/scratches on the front/face of the card, most of which can't be seen unless the lighting is right.

I don't know how strict the grading services are. I assume that they are pretty strict and astringent and that to get a high grade a card has to be super duper pristine and that even the tiniest imperfection will drop the grading dramatically? I assumed that if a card has even just one tiny little scratch it would basically drop the card down to like a 3 or 4, but I've seen pics of cards that visibly look way worse than my card have a grading of like 4 to 5. I've seen pics of Charizards graded as 1 or 2 still fetching $100 to a few hundred dollars :crazy: .

I assume mine is at least a 6? I really have no idea though. I don't know how strict grading is or how many points a tiny scratch/spec will take down the grade.


Here's my Charizard! lol ....In the 2nd pic, you can kinda see there are a few teeny tiny specs/scratches. For the most part, though, I feel it's in pretty decent shape. I honestly feel it is in damn near mint condition to my "amateur" eyes, but I'm not a collector and don't have any idea how perfect a card needs to be to be considered "near mint".









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Wow! That is so cool. This is a Base set Holographic Charizard! It’s not the quarter million$ card unfortunately but that doesn’t make it cheap here’s one listing  1999 Pokemon Charizard Rare Unlimited Base Set Holo 4/102 Psa 3 Very
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and that’s with a crap PSA grade of 3 .From your pictures, I had to guess it’s closer to about seven or eight ,though you may have a rare holo bleed where bits of holo foil are speckled on the card in places it shouldn’t be. To determine that I’d need you to use like a phone flashlight and take a pic of the dots of almost silver foil. It could be wear and tear and just pieces of the holo are showing because the card surface may have worn a bit or it could be a rare holo bleed only a flashlight pic could tell there . Without the holo bleed though it’s still worth 400$ now and prolly much more down the line. So good find ! Buy penny sleeves for the card and plastic toploaders. Any card shop will know what you’re talking about. That will essentially protect the investment until you can either grade it or sell it.

I actually have a Pokémon opening YouTube channel with my brother and I’d love to share it with the Shroomery but didn’t know if anyone is interested. It’s fun to see the art in Pokémon openings and I’d love to share it and we recently got a pikachu and zekrom worth about 3 grand when I spent 110$ on a box but all in total 1000$+ to get to that card.


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    #27313167 - 05/18/21 01:51 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Also when I say this card is possibly a 7-8 I mean PSA and that’s optimistic from them because they are pretty strict. CGC is less strict but you’ll get a little less when you sell, then there’s Beckett which is a brutal rating system that if you got a great grade it could triple the value. It’s a lot of gambling based on personal grading experience


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    #27313516 - 05/18/21 09:18 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'd sell the 3 grand pikachu you got or whatever and take the 2grand profit ... in a few years they could be worth $10.


Trust me take the money and run.


The "pokemon" stock market is NOT going to last.

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If anyone wants to sell any charizards, I might be interested. Shoot me a pm. Have bought Pokémon cards on this forum before 😊

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Wht would you pay for mein?


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    #27313858 - 05/18/21 02:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd sell the 3 grand pikachu you got or whatever and take the 2grand profit ... in a few years they could be worth $10.


Trust me take the money and run.


The "pokemon" stock market is NOT going to last.

Just like the MTG stock market.




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I'd sell the 3 grand pikachu you got or whatever and take the 2grand profit ... in a few years they could be worth $10.


Trust me take the money and run.


The "pokemon" stock market is NOT going to last.

Just like the MTG stock market.



Yeah unfortunately the market already crashed really. Sealed product is still expensive but single cards are crashing and PSA which is the grading co. I'd have to use to get a perfect 10 and that would make it the 3k-4k they shut down their entire grading facilities because so many people sent in PSA submissions. So my end goal is to ride out the market crash and sell it for about 3 grand in maybe a year or so. All of the prices going down is not necessarily reflective on what the price is going to be in the next year or two because there is the devoted Pokemon fan base that will continue to buy cards no matter what the fad is.


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    #27313862 - 05/18/21 02:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So my end goal is to ride out the market crash and sell it for about 3 grand in maybe a year or so.







Try to sell it ungraded NOW while stuff is still inflated would be my suggestion. I mean $3000 is a lot of money dude.


Take what you can get is my opinion but it's your card and you know more about the scene than me, so .


Hell, if you could BREAK EVEN I'd call it a win.


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    #27313998 - 05/18/21 04:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I have all the old cards including the 1st holo charizard but they are in a binder buried somewhere either in my attic or my mothers.......but as a consolation I drew this charizard a week or so ago :awehigh:


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    #27314071 - 05/18/21 05:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Man I was spending all my money on 90s baseball cards like a fucking idiot. They are somehow worth less now than they were back then. I thought everythibg appreciated even if at least a little. I didn’t even like baseball that much

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    #27314143 - 05/18/21 06:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Sports card market has been pretty wild this year. Have you checked any of your cards' values in the last few months?


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    #27314169 - 05/18/21 07:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

First off, " If I could have" has no place.


Lol Mick you post in the stock thread you KNOW we should not be talking about " If I had only" type stuff.


Follow Geokills advice man what you have is right now so forget the has beens it leads to emotional decisions sometimes.



Also the whole pokemon card thing is likely to die out, and hard at some point, kind of like baseball cards did.


Can you imagine some 50 year old dude being like OH YEAH THERE IS MY CHARIZARD


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    #27314176 - 05/18/21 07:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Eh, some trading card collectibles from the early 20th century go for pretty big bucks. Cigarette pack trading cards, cracker jacks toys, etc. Prices now are pretty inflated yeah, but 50 years from now I could easily see a base set card going for a lot lot more.


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Eh, some trading card collectibles from the early 20th century go for pretty big bucks. Cigarette pack trading cards, cracker jacks toys, etc. Prices now are pretty inflated yeah, but 50 years from now I could easily see a base set card going for a lot lot more.






That stuff you mention... they made very few of....., and what few WERE saved were probably poorly saved.



Think about it. They are printing BILLIONS of Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards AND*** *have been** for years now.



BILLIONS

Of course there are "rare ones"

AND*** people are saving them. MILLIONS OF RARES.





The market is so fucking flooded it's not even funny.


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The OG Pokémon cards are certainly not flooded


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The OG Pokémon cards are certainly not flooded





Sure- I'll give you that.


But that's a pretty small corner of things.



Those things are only worth that much because people are PAYING THAT.



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The OG Pokémon cards are certainly not flooded





Sure- I'll give you that.


But that's a pretty small corner of things.



Those things are only worth that much because people are PAYING THAT.



Imagine when people lose interest.



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    #27314372 - 05/18/21 11:03 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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First off, " If I could have" has no place.


Lol Mick you post in the stock thread you KNOW we should not be talking about " If I had only" type stuff.


Follow Geokills advice man what you have is right now so forget the has beens it leads to emotional decisions sometimes.


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I mean the dollar is pretty much only worth a dollar because you believe it does...





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    #27314660 - 05/19/21 06:30 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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First off, " If I could have" has no place.


Lol Mick you post in the stock thread you KNOW we should not be talking about " If I had only" type stuff.


Follow Geokills advice man what you have is right now so forget the has beens it leads to emotional decisions sometimes.

:
Also the whole pokemon card thing is likely to die out, and hard at some point, kind of like baseball cards did.


Can you imagine some 50 year old dude being like OH YEAH THERE IS MY CHARIZARD


lol


I definitely can, especially in 20+ years.
I bet you 20 bucks a charizard is valuable until the total collapse of modern society
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Show me the gold then :awehigh:


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    #27318145 - 05/21/21 11:55 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So my end goal is to ride out the market crash and sell it for about 3 grand in maybe a year or so.







Try to sell it ungraded NOW while stuff is still inflated would be my suggestion. I mean $3000 is a lot of money dude.


Take what you can get is my opinion but it's your card and you know more about the scene than me, so .


Hell, if you could BREAK EVEN I'd call it a win.


Sell what you can to break even and THEN start planning for the future.



Normally if this were an English Pikachu card you’d be right it’ll be a while before those become scarce and gain value in the Pokémon collector world vs the pandemic pokemon year again. However this particular PikaRom Pikachu and zekrom only was printed in this one print run in 2018 in japan only and the box is now 200$ sealed because the cards gets rarer every 3 or 4 months. This particular card is also So centered and flawless as a collector it wouldn’t make sense the sell that card for 200-300$ instead of 2-3k+

. Now an English card I have is a Zacian V gold and it’s not centered perfect and wasn’t sleeved for a while after opening but good condition  ( it was my bro’s) that I’d love to sell ungraded for 200$ So it varies . Find more financial stability in Japanese sets then English sets as far as making big money from a small investment. The box I got the 3k card out of was a 90$ box (110$) with shipping from Osaka but that’d be 3x what I started with essentially. Since my market is the Japanese sector of Pokémon cards we’ve actually seen Japanese boxes rising in price because of scalpers .  I may just send in the Pikachu and Zekrom to Beckket and try my luck well PSA is down we will see.


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Re: Anyone familiar with the value of Pokemon cards? (Charizard lol) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27318575 - 05/22/21 09:19 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I have an Aaron  Rodgers rookie card that is a gold parallel #'d to /99 I think will grade from a 9-9.5.  I would be crushed if it got an 8.5 b it would still be worth a good 800


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    #27318576 - 05/22/21 09:22 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Woah it went up a 9 is listed for 2k on eBay rn.  I should really send mine in.  I'll prob do BGS ND HOPE FOR THE BEST

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203231665112


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    #27318738 - 05/22/21 12:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I’ve got a Tony Gonzalez rookie card somewhere. Wonder what that’s worth haha


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    #27318777 - 05/22/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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i used to have a foil blastoise but i lost track of it




probably could sell it for a ton too :witch:


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    #27319150 - 05/22/21 07:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I used to be the ultimate Pokémon card swindler. I was relentless


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