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Critique my Grow Plan? Over ambitious second ever grow?
    #26977617 - 10/09/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hey friends,

I’m looking for some feedback on my upcoming grow plans and some help with a few questions. This will be my second ever grow, with my first being cubes using PF Tek + SGFC set up. My yield was extremely low, but I learned a lot from it and have done hundreds of hours of research since. I think I’m ready for my next attempt, but I’m not sure if my plan and expectations for myself and this grow are realistic or absolute ridiculous. I plan on starting this process with MS cube syringes (some type of PE, second is still TBD) and a spore print purchased from a trusted/sponsored vendor.

My grow plan consists of step/stage of cultivation and the core teks I plan to use (and strictly follow) in that step.

Before you read any further, I know I’m not going about this the most effective way. I know brf to bulk isn’t the greatest use of time and resources. I know I should really just start from agar and get my technique down. This grow plan is intended to help me learn as much as I can about multiple teks and bring me joy and satisfaction in the process. That being said, I’m open to all ideas and criticisms!

Sorry for the poor formatting... I tried my very best, I swear lol.

TLDR:
Grow plans: BRF cakes --> monos --> spore prints/cloning on agar --> grains (oats and wheat) --> monos
Questions: Spawn to sub ratio for grated brf + coir? Dunk cakes and grains before spawning? Should I case my monos? Should I use artificial light for fruiting? How to dunk monos between flushes? Any merit in brf to grain?


Grow Plan



Step 1: Follow PF Tek to create 40 half pint BRF cakes to be grated and used as spawn in two separate Monos


Bod’s Unmod Mono: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800
(1) 54q monos with spawn to sub ratio of 1:2
Approximately 3in of sub/spawn = 13qt sub/spawn mix
Total substrate = 9qt coco coir
Total spawn = 4qt = 16 half pint BRF cakes


Pasty’s Ez Dialed Mono: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/13
(1) 66qt monos with spawn to sub ratio of approximately1:2
Approximately 3in of sub/spawn = 16qt sub/spawn mix
Total substrate = 10qt coco coir
Total spawn = 6qts = 24 half pint BRF cakes


Bod’s Easy AF Bucket Tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162



Step 2:Begin practicing agar work to develop solid technique by the time brf to bulk grows are fruiting


SBJ’s SAB: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771


Pasty’s Easy Agar Tek (no pour): https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976


Bod’s Agar Tek (pour): https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023


Stro’s Cleaning and Isolating on Agar: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18430998



Step 3: Obtains spore prints and tissue for cloning from brf to bulk grows and plate on agar


Bod’s Spore Print Tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24461957


Tiger Drop (Plating and A2G): https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20111637#20111637


Frank’s Proper Cloning Tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17784996#17784996



Step 4: Once clean mycelium has been obtained, prep and inoculate oat and wheat for grain run of Bod and Pasty monos. Will attempt G2G transfers for practice and to expand spawn as needed.


SBJ’s SFD Lids: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048747#20048747


Bod’s Easy AF Oat Prep: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24126032/fpart/1/vc/1
4qt of oat spawn for Bod’s Unmod 54qt mono with 9qt coir substrate


Dawgy Style Wheat Prep: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26326713
6qt of wheat spawn for Pasty’s Ez 66qt mono with 10qt coir substrate


SBJ’s A2G: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20380256


Frank’s G2G in a SAB: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17441645#17441645





Questions



1. With BRF cakes, do I still need the same ratio of spawn to sub as with whole grains? I’ve read a few posts saying that grated brf cakes go a lot further than grains.

2. Should I dunk my colonized brf cakes and grains (oat and wheat) before spawning to bulk?
Frank’s Colonized Grain Dunk: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17616982/page/1

3. Because of available space and inconvenient air vent placement, I’m concerned about my monos drying out too fast. I’m still a noob a haven’t quite gotten the feel for proper surface moisture yet. I’m thinking of casing both tubs for both the BRF and grain runs. Do you think using a casing would be beneficial in my case, and if so, what do you recommend as casing?

4. The natural lighting in my grow space is limited to moderate. There is only one medium sized (south facing, I think?) window that is partially shaded by a tree. The days are also getting shorter and cloudier here, and most of the bright light the window gets is in the late afternoon, which I’m assuming will limit the amount of light as well. I know light isn’t the most important factor, but in this case would you recommend investing in some artificial lighting? Any recommendations for how to do that on the cheap?

5. Do monos need to be dunked after flushes? If so, what dunk method would you recommend?

6. I found a tek by Eatyualive for brf cakes to grain. I’m assuming there is a high risk of contam, but what do you think about messing around and trying a jar or two of P2G (would fruit separate, if at all)? Total waste of time and money, or worth a little experimenting. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20410651

Opinions? Critiques? Recommendations? Resources? Anything you have would be appreciated!


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Re: Critique my Grow Plan? Over ambitious second ever grow? [Re: merrybotanist]
    #26977714 - 10/09/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am impressed by your research and planning. Seems very well organized and thought out. Will be following your grow. Good luck!


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Re: Critique my Grow Plan? Over ambitious second ever grow? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #26977731 - 10/09/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like you are setting yourself up for success to me. I've never done BRF cakes so I won't chime in on that part...

You can snag LED strip lights from amazon for super cheap. Make sure to get the 6500k spectrum with a cheap timer that is set to 12/12.

Unless you are running PE, I wouldn't worry about casing. Just do a light top layer of your coir mix when spawning and keep an eye out for surface conditions. The coir will go lighter brown when the surface is drying out so watch for that. Lightly mist if you have to.


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Re: Critique my Grow Plan? Over ambitious second ever grow? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #26977748 - 10/09/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I love the ambition, definitely a well thought out plan of action.

I don't have any personal experience with cakes, but I can help with the other questions.

For number 3, maybe you can utilize something like Pasty's EZ dial monos so you can just tape up some holes, to reduce fae, or whatever you need to do to dial it in. This is what I use. Or close the vents. All the vents in my room are closed/plugged.

Since you say you have limited natural lighting, you probably should supplement. Look at led T5 lights on amazon. I think I paid $45 for 10 4ft tubes. Not bad.

I don't dunk between flushes, but I do mist VERY heavily between flushes.


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Re: Critique my Grow Plan? Over ambitious second ever grow? [Re: One of Us]
    #26978158 - 10/10/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you all for your input! I’m feeling super excited and encouraged now!

I’m definitely going to get some lighting. Since I’ll be relying on artificial light, I’m wondering if I could move my grow into a small closet to save on space and be a little more hidden?

There are no vents in the closet, so there would be little to no airflow. That should help prevent my sub drying out too fast, BUT I’m concerned this will negatively affect FAE. I have a small air purifier I could run in the closet. The low function is pretty chill, and it takes air in at the bottom and the fan/output is on the top so the air blows upwards. Do you think that would be sufficient in providing FAE in a small closet? Would the fan element increase risk of the sub drying out?

I am going to attempt PE for one mono. Casing recommendations?

Right now the biggest limiting factor for this plan is the cost of jars for PF Tek. Hopefully someone can provide input on brf spawn to sub ratios! If I could use less cakes than my anticipated 40, that’d really save me a lot and allow me to get started ASAP.

Thanks again y’all!!


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