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CoryInJapan
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 DRIED grams of Psilocybin? [Re: NOUS333]
#26986726 - 10/15/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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CoryInJapan said: I had an extremely religious experience that helped me understand my christian faith better, and some of the experience was OBE for short periods. I seen how Godds consciousness is connected to everything and what eternity feels like. No time, just now for ever. It was probably the most peaceful moment of my life at that point all those years ago.
but all those years ago might as well be right now still....right? 
Do you mean the impressions and revelations I got are still today? Yes!...If you meant something else then idk what you mean lol. *shrugs*
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: CoryInJapan]
#26987146 - 10/15/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dosage should not even matter especially if you are conducting research for statistics. You either have a mystical experience or you don't. Dosage really does not matter when it comes to psychedelics. You really don't need much in order to take a look deep within your mind. All taking a higher dose does is just get you more "far out" like what the hippies say. A lot of people react completely differently to the same dose. And if the genetics are strong then you don't even need a full eighth. I have some potent ecuadorians that give me a full on trip with only 1.5 grams.
But anyway, I have had mystical experiences with 3.5 G of dry and I also had a mystical experience doing two grams on lemon Tek.
I will discuss the two gram lemon Tek trip because that one was earlier this year and it is still a little fresh in my mind.
During the come up, I was laying on my bed. I felt as though I could feel the ENTIRE spirit of the planet gently supporting me as if on stilts and guiding and lifting me into the heavens. I was transcending this reality. By the time I was peaking, I was completely transcended and I became the whole universe and all. I also became God.
What I learned in this trip is that I have a lot of support from people in my life, my family, my roommate, my job, etc. I have a greater connection to the spirit of the planet and that all the answers to my life can be found by just simply following the guidance of the spirit which is within myself. I also came to recognize that the entire planet has a spirit. Not just the living things on the planet but the ENTIRETY of the planet itself. This essence is very powerful and can guide you in the right direction if you tap into it.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 1
#26987277 - 10/15/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Dosage really does not matter when it comes to psychedelics.
Dosage really does matter.
Your 2 gram lemon tek is equivalent to a larger dose, so you're basically comparing apples to oranges and saying they're both apples and the smaller one is more satisfying.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26987306 - 10/15/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Dosage really does not matter when it comes to psychedelics.
Dosage really does matter.
Your 2 gram lemon tek is equivalent to a larger dose, so you're basically comparing apples to oranges and saying they're both apples and the smaller one is more satisfying.
Dose matters to an extent but what matters most is what is inside of yourself at the time. I've gotten more psychological work done with just 60ug of acid than I did from 200ug. it was probably my setting that played the biggest part with that difference.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987428 - 10/15/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm in the group who thinks dosage does matter. Yes, set and setting is important, but a full on mystical/ecstatic experience is more likely to come from a more appropriate dosage compared to a lower dosage. Does anyone here talk in tongues, have precognitive visions, go into complete orgasmic mind fuck, being raptured in religious ecstasy, connection with one's soul and merging with God/source while being completely at peace and serene and feeling "home", from lower dosages? When i'm referring to a mystical experience personally, i'm talking fully immersive experience, not some mild mental feeling or understanding that one would consider spiritual.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: Sabnock] 1
#26987576 - 10/15/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I believe dosage does matter too, moreso than set or setting. With that said a large dose of mushrooms doesnt necessarily guarantee a mystical experience for me.
I've had an eighth or less of good cubensis push me through to the other side a few times and 7+g just make me trip hard but without that breakthrough-style intense mystical element. Oftentimes the mushrooms dont let me decide when they really rock my ass
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: Sabnock] 1
#26987587 - 10/15/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: I'm in the group who thinks dosage does matter. Yes, set and setting is important, but a full on mystical/ecstatic experience is more likely to come from a more appropriate dosage compared to a lower dosage. Does anyone here talk in tongues, have precognitive visions, go into complete orgasmic mind fuck, being raptured in religious ecstasy, connection with one's soul and merging with God/source while being completely at peace and serene and feeling "home", from lower dosages? When i'm referring to a mystical experience personally, i'm talking fully immersive experience, not some mild mental feeling or understanding that one would consider spiritual.
I get it now. Yes, in order to see, find, or even become god yourself, a higher dose is needed.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987645 - 10/15/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Dosage really does not matter when it comes to psychedelics.
Dosage really does matter.
Your 2 gram lemon tek is equivalent to a larger dose, so you're basically comparing apples to oranges and saying they're both apples and the smaller one is more satisfying.
Dose matters to an extent but what matters most is what is inside of yourself at the time. I've gotten more psychological work done with just 60ug of acid than I did from 200ug. it was probably my setting that played the biggest part with that difference.
That would be assuming you wanted - or needed - to do psychological work. States for accomplishing this can also be reached with good weed, or meditation, and classical psychedelics like mushrooms IME reach well beyond those to incredibly novel realms of the mind. Acid seems more variable that way, people appear to have a resistance to it but once that cherry is popped the effective dosage decreases, from what I've read anyway. 
Also the individual's innate tolerance coupled with the absolute potency of the mushrooms makes all the difference as to what an effective dose is. This is just something people need to determine for themselves and their particular circumstances.
But basically yeah I agree.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: Sabnock] 1
#26987649 - 10/15/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: Does anyone here talk in tongues, have precognitive visions, go into complete orgasmic mind fuck, being raptured in religious ecstasy, connection with one's soul and merging with God/source while being completely at peace and serene and feeling "home", from lower dosages?
Yeah, that happens for me approximately...never.
That's why I like effective doses, not too high, not too low, but erring on the high side is preferable to the alternative.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26987677 - 10/15/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Dosage really does not matter when it comes to psychedelics.
Dosage really does matter.
Your 2 gram lemon tek is equivalent to a larger dose, so you're basically comparing apples to oranges and saying they're both apples and the smaller one is more satisfying.
Dose matters to an extent but what matters most is what is inside of yourself at the time. I've gotten more psychological work done with just 60ug of acid than I did from 200ug. it was probably my setting that played the biggest part with that difference.
That would be assuming you wanted - or needed - to do psychological work. States for accomplishing this can also be reached with good weed, or meditation, and classical psychedelics like mushrooms IME reach well beyond those to incredibly novel realms of the mind. Acid seems more variable that way, people appear to have a resistance to it but once that cherry is popped the effective dosage decreases, from what I've read anyway. 
Also the individual's innate tolerance coupled with the absolute potency of the mushrooms makes all the difference as to what an effective dose is. This is just something people need to determine for themselves and their particular circumstances.
But basically yeah I agree. 
I've never heard this described before. So this is why I can get off on lower dosages? Because my psychedelic cherry has been popped? I've heard that older people don't need as much psychedelics as younger people do.
Younger people are like, "I'm going to do 5 hits of acid!" Older people are like, "Meh, I'll do 1 hit, maybe just half a hit."
That 60ug "trip" was intended to give me motivation to clean my room. I cleaned my room but unexpectedly did psychological work during that trip. It was one of the most emotionally freeing psychedelic experiences I've had. I made a trip report here. It was like a psychology session in my bedroom.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987699 - 10/15/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know if that works with mushrooms, but for acid it's all over the psychedelic literature back in the day of legal research (which is fortunately happening again).
But I think yeah experience matters for all psychedelics, for instance to me it's surprising how far I can go on weed by just calling up the appropriate headspace, whereas with larger doses of mushrooms there's no getting away from it.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26987707 - 10/15/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I don't know if that works with mushrooms, but for acid it's all over the psychedelic literature back in the day of legal research (which is fortunately happening again).
But I think yeah experience matters for all psychedelics, for instance to me it's surprising how far I can go on weed by just calling up the appropriate headspace, whereas with larger doses of mushrooms there's no getting away from it. 
I think of it like this. LSD shows you your emotions in a very gentle and loving beautiful way. Mushrooms show you your emotions as if you are in the backseat of a roller coaster being swung around and shown your emotions and shown what you need to do with your life to fix it. LSD is like a slow beautiful journey and mushrooms are a very quick slap in the face.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 1
#26987737 - 10/15/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't find it that way but of course YMMV. With effective doses of mushrooms done right (my experience is almost all tea) mushrooms are powerful teachers and emotional amplifiers. What comes up during a trip, if not addressed outside the trip, will come up again repeatedly. If addressed it's on to the next thing - until finally you run out of things and all that's left is the pure experience.
It's like peeling layers off an onion, where the layers constitute your ego and the slow accumulation of ego-related encumbrances. Once these are gone, however many or few trips it takes, then it's just smooth sailing until the next time. The mushrooms also have a powerful spiritual component of their own which you'll meet up with if you're lucky.
But then I've never yet done acid to be able to compare it with.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26987788 - 10/15/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I don't find it that way but of course YMMV. With effective doses of mushrooms done right (my experience is almost all tea) mushrooms are powerful teachers and emotional amplifiers. What comes up during a trip, if not addressed outside the trip, will come up again repeatedly. If addressed it's on to the next thing - until finally you run out of things and all that's left is the pure experience.
It's like peeling layers off an onion, where the layers constitute your ego and the slow accumulation of ego-related encumbrances. Once these are gone, however many or few trips it takes, then it's just smooth sailing until the next time. The mushrooms also have a powerful spiritual component of their own which you'll meet up with if you're lucky.
But then I've never yet done acid to be able to compare it with. 
It's not a bad thing. Sometimes you need a good cold hard slap in the face to know exactly what you need to do in your life. Mushrooms will always have a special place in my heart. I only use mushrooms for spiritual or self insightful purposes. Lsd I can use more recreationally or for more reasons than just one.
I've found that the effects highly vary between the genetics. I've had some b+ several years ago that blew my mind away and gave me the most beautiful ego death I've ever had but the b+ I had last year were more of a visual trip and not so much of a mind trip. I was able to handle 5 grams of those but the b+ from a while back I could only do an eighth. Right now I've got some potent ecuadorians that give me a full on trip with only 1.5 grams. Full tracers and shifting patterns and feeling a connectedness with nature and the universe, etc. I had a good trip on 1.5 grams of these ecuadorians where I felt a complete connectedness in the universe and nature and in my mind I could see all of the math and all of the Fibonacci numbers and the physics equations of the universe and everything came together and I could literally see outside of The matrix.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 grams of Psilocybin? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987993 - 10/16/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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B+ that's not bunk - who'd thunk it? I've grown a lot of strains of cubes and potency varies all over the place, although PE varieties usually knock it out of the park.
But then I use mushrooms for fun as well as spiritual purposes. There's no right or wrong way.
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Re: POLL: Have you had a mystical experience on 3.5 DRIED grams of Psilocybin? [Re: CoryInJapan]
#26991217 - 10/18/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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CoryInJapan said: I had an extremely religious experience that helped me understand my christian faith better, and some of the experience was OBE for short periods. I seen how Godds consciousness is connected to everything and what eternity feels like. No time, just now for ever. It was probably the most peaceful moment of my life at that point all those years ago.
but all those years ago might as well be right now still....right? 
Do you mean the impressions and revelations I got are still today? Yes!...If you meant something else then idk what you mean lol. *shrugs*
I meant, there is never really 'time' as we have constructed it and generally understand it... everything is always right now. Now is all that will ever be.
the impressions and revelations were just the result of you paying attention enough to notice this in that moment years ago... what you noticed is still right here, right now.... it hasn't really changed. It can still bring you the same peace.
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