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 Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not  [Re: Munchauzen]
#26967897 - 10/03/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sweet idea...
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: TheStallionMang]
#26968000 - 10/03/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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trippytimes
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Dhearic]
#26968290 - 10/03/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Once fully colonized if you don't have a martha you can just go what I did. I turned a widemouth upside down put two pencils under the jar and sprayed the inside the jar a few times a day it worked well. Just a idea.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: trippytimes]
#26968297 - 10/03/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26971928 - 10/06/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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10/6/2020
Moved the containers to a shoebox with a lid, and put a grocery bag over the lid to regulate FAE, as these containers tend to dry out if exposed. Also popped their tops, but sat them on the lids to keep the labels. Agar is starting to recover and colonize!
  
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26971984 - 10/06/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grocery bag niceee . I use them too. They hold in moisture really nice. A nice dome tent.
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Munchauzen
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: seand04]
#26972068 - 10/06/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I usually keep shoeboxes in monotubs, but I didn't want to use a whole mono just for one shoebox.
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Stkn_Hywd_Myco
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26972196 - 10/06/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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 Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26972243 - 10/06/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If that fully colonizes, I suggest going further with it.
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Rhizomorph
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26972316 - 10/06/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interested...
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Ferather
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Rhizomorph]
#26976772 - 10/09/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stalled or still going?
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Munchauzen
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
#26976798 - 10/09/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enoki hasn't done much of anything which I expected.
Cubes are moving slow but steady it looks like. Gonna do more plates this weekend, and this time I'll use good plates intended for this, and not just the transfer rejects.
Not home but I'll post progress pics tomorrow. I got some fuzz poking thru my top layer on one cube.
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 Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26976806 - 10/09/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Would you say the Cubensis is utilizing the coir as a substrate (enzymes, decay), more than just a water sponge? Or cant really say yet?
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
#26976839 - 10/09/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
#26976848 - 10/09/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ferather said:
Would you say the Cubensis is utilizing the coir as a substrate (enzymes, decay), more than just a water sponge? Or cant really say yet?
I’m pretty sure based on the results of other tests done already that coir is used as a substrate, not just a water “sponge.” I’m more interested in the real aim of his efforts here, I’m actually planning to start my own tests in this vein.
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
#26976853 - 10/09/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferather
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26976952 - 10/09/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good good. I tried various tests with another substrate, which is similar. I also tested growth on phenols (in this case from tea), separate from growth on cellulose.
The phenol test had its own nutrients (nitrogen, etc), and produced white-rot (decayed the tea phenols, turning the plate white).
The cellulose test required both nutrients, and an additional carbon source (sucrose) to germinate and grow.
Conclusion: Cubensis was able to utilize both cellulose (to some degree) and plant phenols as it's sole carbon source.
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Here is paper pellets, and paper pellets WL-Tek (added nutrients, but no carbon [starch-sugar]):
 
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I assemble my grows open to air, no filters or extra steps, I do however microwave it.
As normal I use starch based spawn to act like adding sugar.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
#26977219 - 10/09/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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What kind of yields you seeing from that?
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Ferather
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26977254 - 10/09/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Usually close to the maximum for the species, depends on your setup and water replenishment. It terms of nutrients, abundantly more.
12kg of plain paper produced about 600g of fresh fruits, 600g of enriched paper produced about 500g fresh.
Minus the average 90% water, that's about 60g and 50g dry weight.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
#26977279 - 10/09/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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12 kg of paper to produce 110 dry grams? Is that 12 kg dry or hydrated? It sounds like a terrible return. What kind of footprint are we talking about? I’m looking at getting that first flush from one mono with ms and it ain’t no 12 kg I’ll tell you that much. From a good clone and some decent spawn and I’m doubling that yield. I’m not sure what the upside is.
Edit: don’t answer, this has gone off track enough already. My apologies to munch.
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