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Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation
#26976664 - 10/09/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi guys, so this morning I was very miserable to see that my monotubs are making small fruits(I had this problem way back when I was just getting started) , The only recent changes made was that my supplier ran out of washed blocks of coir and gave me a double washed brick instead and also I decided to add a teaspoon of Plaster of paris to my bulk sub before sterilizing.
So because the coir is double washed it's a bit more fluffy than the previous coir. I continued to make my bulk sub in my monotubs 8cm thick as I always do and waited..... Well, the hyphal knots came by the thousands as they usually do but this time I had a lot of side knots too which I normally don't get. In one tub I even got knots in the bottom of my monotubs which I never get.
Now I'm getting tiny pins which turn in to maybe 2-3 centimeter tall THIN fruits.
So frustrated with my 7 monotubs freaking me out I called a very trusted cultivator in my area who immediately asked me if the coir texture was softer than I normally use(which yes it was because it's double washed and a lot softer and fluffier). He says it seems like my monotub was not made up dense enough so now the fruits aren't growing because the structure of the coir is not providing enough support. Suggested I make my monotubs 10cm thick and then push down my substrate to 8cm thick to made sure it has some structural support the next time I make do a monotub.
Now my question to you, I want to save these weak flusing monotubs, there are 7 of them! I want to push down my 20 day old (fully colonised and busy pinning) monotubs substrate now to make it more compact when this nonsense first flush is finished. Should I just push down my current 8cm thick sub to 5cm thick? or should I turn 3 of these old monotubs in to only 2 by splitting one up into the other two monotubs and then pushing down the sub to make it more compact and roughly 8cm thick?

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Edited by OriginalGinger (10/09/20 01:13 PM)
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: OriginalGinger]
#26976728 - 10/09/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't do anything of the nature...
You are describing poor lighting and lack of fae to a t.
Pics would help, but it sounds more like a conditions problem than a substrate problem.
Make sure they get 12/12 lighting. Are they modded tubs?
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26976800 - 10/09/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: I wouldn't do anything of the nature...
You are describing poor lighting and lack of fae to a t.
Pics would help, but it sounds more like a conditions problem than a substrate problem.
Make sure they get 12/12 lighting. Are they modded tubs?
Not a new tek so I don't see how that's possible, using Pastywhyte's micropore dailed tek and I give FAE at least twice a day, maximum 3 times a day if I'm not being lazy and been using this tek for years. Will get you some pics of the tubs in a short while. Also no fuzzy feet, just super small pins and fruits, the hyphal knots were pretty big and promising.
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: OriginalGinger]
#26976813 - 10/09/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you checked for field capacity? The new coir could have different water retention properties, so you might need to adjust the amount of water when soaking it.
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: sporecap]
#26976888 - 10/09/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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sporecap said: Have you checked for field capacity? The new coir could have different water retention properties, so you might need to adjust the amount of water when soaking it.
My normal routine is taking the coir from the pressure cooker soaked, squeezing the water out of it a bit then mixing it in with my fully colonized sub. So its pretty much always hydrated, as soon as it starts pulling from the sides(normally after or during first flush) I'll bottom soak.
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: sporecap]
#26977077 - 10/09/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I uploaded two pics for you to the original post.
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: OriginalGinger]
#26977083 - 10/09/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are all the tubs the same culture?
I doesn’t seem like the coir should make a difference especially since the myc pulls it together as it colonizes, but I have no idea.
It is weird that they all did it at the same time so that’s I’m wondering if maybe it’s genetics. The surface conditions look pretty sweet.
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Re: Fluffy, soft coir - causing small fruits due to poor foundation [Re: A.k.a]
#26977094 - 10/09/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey bud, Nope there are three different sets of genetics between the seven tubs, two different golden teachers and also a Z strain. It's going to be a bad loss if I can't fix this.
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