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Possible P. Fimetaria
    #26976658 - 10/09/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hi, I posted these photos over in the UK liberty caps thread and someone thought they might be P. Fimetaria.

I found them in what I'm pretty sure is horse dung - it's in an area with a lot of horses in the south of England. They seemed to bruise blue, and the spore print was blackish - I'm a complete beginner with mushrooms though, so I could be wrong on both points. Both photos are the same mushrooms. Any help much appreciated!





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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: SpookySteve]
    #26977001 - 10/09/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Can You Post Pics Of The Bruising You Speak Of?

I See A Deconica Sp


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: MpSeph]
    #26977176 - 10/09/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So unfortunately I've dried the mushrooms since and didn't get a photo of the bluing when it happened. It's probably not much good but I think you can still see where the bruising was in this photo? Again, I don't really know what I'm doing here.



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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: SpookySteve]
    #26977242 - 10/09/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah It's Extremely Hard To ID Dried Specimens, I'd Need To See A Fresh Specimen With Obvious Blue Bruising To Even Begin To Think It Might Be Active.

Try & Find Some More, They Are Interesting Nonetheless :thumbup:


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: MpSeph]
    #26977651 - 10/09/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I see what looks like it could very well be blue bruising on two of the caps actually and the base of one of the stems is darkened significantly, although the picture leaves loads to be desired, you definitely want to get close up detail shots on specific specimens, if you want people to be able to help.There are also two specimens that are a Conocybe or Pholiotina. They are in both the in situ & harvested pictures.


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: SpookySteve]
    #26977666 - 10/09/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That’s the blue on the caps right? I thought it was dirt or something until I noticed the spots on the pre dried specimens.
Don’t eat any of them since you definitely have at least 2 species in the collection & probably not enough to get much, if any, effect if they are active. At least ones with blue and maybe some of the others should be sent off to a member or members, who have the ability and will to scope them, especially because P. fimitaria is a semi legendary, and not truly confirmed species.


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: SpookySteve]
    #26977669 - 10/09/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The two that are definitely different and pretty likely poisonous are front and center, the two that are the focus of the photo in the pre harvest pic.


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: SpookySteve]
    #26978015 - 10/10/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

We'll need better pictures, try to take some macro close up shots of them in situ.

You should also check if the gill edges are covered in a gelatinous string, you can do this
by trying to separate it with a needle or pin.

Interesting find. :smile:


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26978277 - 10/10/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I Don't Think That's Bruising On The Cap, My First Thought Was Mold.


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: MpSeph]
    #26981779 - 10/12/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks everyone, this is all very helpful!


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: MpSeph]
    #26981861 - 10/12/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Also what I thought on the dried specimens, mold dirt or other crud/debris, until i noticed you could see corresponding bluish spots while they were freshly picked.


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: manOwar]
    #26981869 - 10/12/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a mixed collection. The two with the very conical caps and more flimsy stipes are something else, like a conocybe or deconica, and the others are very likely to be P. fimetaria


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Re: Possible P. Fimetaria [Re: Moria841]
    #26981901 - 10/12/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I pointed out the Conocybes the other day


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