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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: sam11]
#26961414 - 09/30/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't say "no one respects a pot head" I said "Nobody takes a pothead seriously"
Can you handle serious business while being someone who is constantly stoned? Probably not.
All of my friends that have died violently were stoned when they were killed.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26961420 - 09/30/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buddhists have an interesting take on cannabis usage.
They do not believe it is immoral or wrong, But doing so "Invites clouds of ignorance into your mind"
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26961459 - 09/30/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckomcdoogle said: I didn't say "no one respects a pot head" I said "Nobody takes a pothead seriously"
Can you handle serious business while being someone who is constantly stoned? Probably not.
All of my friends that have died violently were stoned when they were killed.
Fair enough I miss quoted you there apologies. Still going to say "nobody takes a pot head seriously" is a blanket statement which doesn't really have much validity, or point. What is this serious business you speak of? I am self employed so kinda run my own business but I don't take it too seriously so maybe that doesn't qualify.... dunno man what do you consider serious business? My most serious business would be being a good father and partner and I'll admit i can be a grumpy motherfucker. This happens almost exclusively when I'm sober. So perhaps being sober all the time is not the best as I usually reflect on these things when stoned and realise I was being a dick. Honestly I don't think it's great for me to be stoned all the time either, but have met folks who function extremely well when stoned. I fail to see why you're bothering with this shit anyway. I guess I'm invested in this topic as we have a referendum coming up on legalisation and I find that statements such as yours fuel peoples already warped ideas about this substance. I only have one friend who has died, he didn't smoke weed. (It wasn't violent either) You must be living in a fucked up situation if you have multiple friends who are dying violently. No disrespect to that situation but perhaps you should handle some serious business and get yourself out of it. In my fairly extensive experience smoking weed doesn't tend to make people violent or inclined to enter into violent situations so...... bit puzzling.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26961463 - 09/30/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckomcdoogle said: Buddhists have an interesting take on cannabis usage.
They do not believe it is immoral or wrong, But doing so "Invites clouds of ignorance into your mind"
great, all power to them... they also believe that existence is suffering, when you die you are reborn, and this crazy cycle only ends when "liberation" is achieved by "insight" and the extinguishing of desire. Which kinda sounds a bit bat shit crazy to me (damned sight better than most religious beliefs admittedly) and is probably why "nobody takes a buddhist seriously"
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: sam11] 1
#26961469 - 09/30/20 05:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Respect +1
Sometimes even if you aren't looking for trouble, the trouble finds you..
Are you ready to deal with something unexpected, catastrophic or even downright crazy? Maybe it happens right after you take an enormous dab or face a joint....
I had an everyday habit for almost 15 years, the last 5 of which heavy with concentrates, for a long time I was in denial how much it really effected me.
I haven't touched the stuff in almost a year. Anytime you alter your cognitive function on a daily basis it eventually starts to inhibit how your brain should naturally function. Like ive said, time and a place. I guess what it really comes down to is, do the benefits outweigh the negatives for you personally?
Is it as bad as being an alcoholic or doing h? Fuck no
But there certainly are negatives to smoking up all day every day, and anyone who cannot see that is 100% in denial.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26961759 - 09/30/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: Weed is addictive and makes you lazy. I feel like your making up reasons that it's good when used every day. It's definitely not and if you smoked ever day for a decade you would agree. Fucks up your memory too in my experience.
For me, my memory works fine if I'm stoned all day every day, as long as I'm not depressed. Depression *really* fucks with my memory, to the point I won't be able to remember something I did an hour or two ago, ironically cannabis helps the depression not be as bad.
Another thing is dosage, I used to love getting blasted on weed and back then I would forget everything, watching movies repeatedly days in a row because I was too high to remember I'd seen them in the first place! But then cannabis started giving me paranoia and I learned to manage it better, now a slightly noticeable buzz and mood improvement is all I need and want from herb, and I don't have those issues any more. I'm able to maintain an exercise routine, motivation at work, high mental acuity, etc. I find exercise and diet to be more important in all of that than whether I smoke or not.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26963242 - 10/01/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckomcdoogle said: Like ive said, time and a place. I guess what it really comes down to is, do the benefits outweigh the negatives for you personally?
Is it as bad as being an alcoholic or doing h? Fuck no
But there certainly are negatives to smoking up all day every day, and anyone who cannot see that is 100% in denial.
Time and a place for me personally, sure I agree with that and sure have had my issues with over use etc and it is easy to fall into denial about negative effects. However if I keep things in check then yes benefits out weigh the negatives... I guess that's your point though right? Keeping things in check. Still I wouldn't want to assume everybody has the same experience as me and should therefore do what I think is best, or even care if I take them seriously or not. Smoking weed all day to me is pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things. There are plenty of other things people do that piss me off way more.(and they aren't drugs)
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: sam11]
#26963297 - 10/01/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Asante]
#26968555 - 10/04/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This shit cracks me up. I think I’ve handled about 9000 dollars worth of business in the last 5 days
I was hitting the pen while I was swiping people credit cards and having them sign the contracts/ send the money over too soooo......
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I also tell most customers that I make pipes too...most of em realize that it just means they’re hiring a person of a multitude of talents. Even when they don’t smoke. You’d be surprised about people who have “serious” jobs and they’re REAL opinion on cannabis behind closed doors. If no one took you seriously; it’s probly cuz you weren’t very worthy of being taken seriously lmfao. If people don’t take me seriously I actually tell them to keep their money because I don’t need it if they’re gonna act like that.
Enjoy judging people and paying twice what you would hiring me and you still get an inferior product / service. That’s to all the people who think like you do. Stoners tend to also be the most reasonable business people to work with when your in a jam. So don’t hire that mechanic cuz his eyes are glassy. Odds are he probably still knows what the fuck is up because he has a valuable skill and doesn’t give a shit what you think.
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Well different strokes for different folks. Just because you don't have a problem with your consumption doesn't mean every one else is the same. You literally just got butthurt as fuck. I probably wouldn't take you seriously if your hitting a pen on the job just seems like you don't have any self control to me.
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Ive worked with about 100 different pothead cooks over the years that genuinely believed smoking up made them better at their jobs.
In reality they were the ones constantly getting shit confused and fucking up orders on a regular basis.
There's a term for it I cant quite recall.
Like when someone does PCP they think they are functioning normally in their own mind, but the reality looks way different from another persons perspective.
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On another note... Doesn't it seem kind of silly doing business with someone who doesn't even have enough self control to not be stoned for a few hours during the day?
I could understand if it was medical, But cmon... Outside of that I think it really just shows lack of self control.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26969532 - 10/04/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Strange why you don't have that point of view for someone on coffee when it likely makes them more anxious and depressed. Or someone who smokes nicotine when it makes it more likely they'll have a heart attack and plain not show up the next day.
Different drugs affect people differently. Some of the most badass computer engineers I've met have been stoners, and that shit requires some serious presence of mind. I can't work blasted out of my mind, but they can. They couldn't slam down the massive amounts of coffee I could back in the day either though.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: ninja cat 09]
#26969941 - 10/04/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Coffee and cigarettes aren't psychedlic drugs...... Apples and bowling balls
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26970125 - 10/05/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: Well different strokes for different folks. Just because you don't have a problem with your consumption doesn't mean every one else is the same. You literally just got butthurt as fuck. I probably wouldn't take you seriously if your hitting a pen on the job just seems like you don't have any self control to me.
oh no man you are entitled to your opinion. I’m just letting you know your opinion is extremely NARROW MINDED. @buckoNot when they’re the best at what they’re doing and giving you a better deal than anyone else would and have five star reviews. And no I don’t hit it in front of them. I was using hyperbole to make a point. It’s rude to consume substances in someone else’s home without asking. That’s another issue entirely. I’m sure a few have smelled it on my breath a tiny bit as I exhaled the pen outside by the work van. Idc what they think and they clearly don’t think too badly to leave a five star reviews
Edit: just read why your perspective is what it is...you worked with STONER COOKS, not even chefs. They are just underachievers, they might perform marginally better sober but that’s because they suck so much at life
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26970133 - 10/05/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckomcdoogle said: On another note... Doesn't it seem kind of silly doing business with someone who doesn't even have enough self control to not be stoned for a few hours during the day?
I could understand if it was medical, But cmon... Outside of that I think it really just shows lack of self control.
Just because something is medical doesn’t mean that it isn’t recreational as well. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I explain shit better when I’m stoned because my patience for “smart sober” people goes WAY UP
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26970526 - 10/05/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckomcdoogle said: Coffee and cigarettes aren't psychedlic drugs...... Apples and bowling balls
Take a week off coffee and see how well you function. After that same week try drinking 2-3 cups before work and see how well you function. I'm willing to bet you don't have the self control to go a week without the substance.
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The reason I say that is simply because it beats the shit out of being bombed on opioid pain killers all the time.
But you are right, I'd wager 80-90% of 20-30 somethings that are "Medical" users are just using it as an excuse.
But there are people who genuinely use it because its a must.
Ive known a couple of people with Fibromyalgia that replaced their Hydrocodone with cannabinoids and never looked back.
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Re: Nobody takes a pothead seriously. (Retrospecive) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26974823 - 10/08/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what the point is OP is trying to make.
If potheads are good worker bees, and being sober is being sober, how do you make money when you're sober? No work? Or is it just a higher rung on the corporate ladder that is really destroying everything? Unfettered capitalism will destroy a planet with finite resources, that's just basic math.
If I have figured out how to get high, and get paid for eight hours of work that only took me an hour, I am not sure why cannabis is bad, at least in my situation.
I chief at work, my boss chiefs at work, we get shit done, that's all I gotta say. It makes me focused on my paperwork and keeps me zen. If it's bad to live in the moment then i don't want to not smoke. I don't smoke more than, probably $4 of weed a day, because I just consume oil carts and take gel capsules occasionally. I never go home and zone out watching television or get incredibly high and do nothing. Usually I am working on my music I am obsessed with making sound perfect, with music theory cannabis helps imo.
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theRealrollforever said: This shit cracks me up. I think I’ve handled about 9000 dollars worth of business in the last 5 days
I was hitting the pen while I was swiping people credit cards and having them sign the contracts/ send the money over too soooo......
No kidding I am high and I file tax documents and check to see if over $5000 of sales is legit and matches the books, sometimes up to $15-$20k a day.
I am usually very high doing this
Edited by skOsH (10/08/20 02:27 AM)
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