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Will the work as a casing layer?
    #26974485 - 10/07/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Is this gonna work for a casing layer & If so how can I prep this to get it ready to put on top of my spawn? Can I put a casing layer on this late this is a 6 qt shoebox it’s already got bunch of pins???


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Johndoe1017]
    #26974542 - 10/07/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Id say if you already have pins, just let them grow, case them in-between flushes if you really want to. I don't see any pins on your picture. It looks like its about to start though!


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #26974586 - 10/07/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

you have a shoe box about to pin and you don't know what coir is? hhmmm. You could case with it but most would call it a "top layer" more so than a casing. Anyway. I can't say i'd throw it on as you already have knots forming.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Johndoe1017]
    #26974680 - 10/07/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Is this gonna work for a casing layer & If so how can I prep this to get it ready to put on top of my spawn? Can I put a casing layer on this late this is a 6 qt shoebox it’s already got bunch of pins???




The little white dots all over your surface are called "knots", or primordia when they get a little bigger. I think knots start to be considered pins once you can see a visible differentiation of tissue, aka when there is a visible mushroom cap


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: meowjinx]
    #26974683 - 10/07/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

yes. also, it's looking a bit dry to me. I'd probably give her a little misting.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26974686 - 10/07/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmmm well me Being an amateur at  what I would call  this fine art brings me to ask alot of questions and the whole coir thing is brand new to me this go around... I’ve experimented with some mono tubs in the past but didn’t really do the research to get any great yields.. okay then we’ll will this stuff I got work just as a top layer alone by itself?


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Johndoe1017]
    #26974697 - 10/07/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26974713 - 10/07/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Does this look any better?I’m not sure if you can see it or not but it has a little tiny beads of the h2o on


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Johndoe1017]
    #26974717 - 10/07/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What i said about it being dry on the surface.... Yeah. Side pins happen (generally) when the surface conditions are not optimal for pin formation. The sub shrinks as the myc eats the through and water escapes. This creates little tiny pockets all around the sub. The climate in these pockets is perfect for pin formation because they maintain really high RH. To avoid side pins one needs to maintain optimum pinning conditions on the surface of the sub. Pins will always form in the most optimal place available.

The coir you have will work fine for a top layer. Just hydrate with warm water and apply. There is an ongoing argument over whether or not top layers or casings actually help with cubes. The general consensus is that it makes it easier to achieve quality yields but isn't needed. I personally like to top layer tubs and always do, unless i run low on coir.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26974719 - 10/07/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can see it and yes.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26974746 - 10/08/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Okay so if I was to turn the lid over is this gonna be to much fae?


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Johndoe1017]
    #26974757 - 10/08/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Nice haha. Hey, I'll take side pins over nothing any day



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Okay so if I was to turn the lid over is this gonna be to much fae?




I don't do unmodded monos, but I do do shoeboxes which are unmodded. When I wanna increase FAE I'll flip it over for however long I feel it will help maintain ideal surface conditions

You have to sort of play it by ear. People grow in different environments in terms of temperature and humidity, so too much FAE for one person may be just enough for another. You have to learn to "read" yours surface to keep it in that sweet spot between too wet and too dry


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: meowjinx]
    #26974762 - 10/08/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i wouldn't flip it just yet. I'd wait for the pins to establish themselves and then flip it.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: meowjinx]
    #26975176 - 10/08/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you have one of those snap-on lid sterlite boxes (no latches like OP) would that make an imperfect seal so there's FAE? A box went down from green bad stuff during colonization and I hear that additional FAE could help with that. At the same time I hear that you should minimize FAE during colonization because it speeds it up and you introduce more FAE when its ready to support fruiting condition.


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Re: Will the work as a casing layer? [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #26975184 - 10/08/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For a case you line bottom of tub with light blocking plastic so you dont get all those wasted side pins.
Then you make a little spawn hot pocket or three layer lasagne is a better descrption with the casing material


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