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Hanging skeleton - controversial?
    #26973689 - 10/07/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 3
    #26973699 - 10/07/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just hang the damn skeleton.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26973702 - 10/07/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Is it controversial with racial undertones?
Well, that depends.  Are you a known racist in your community?  Do you have any Pro-Trump signage in your yard?  Could you make it appear that the skeleton was once in the body of a caucasian?

Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
Perhaps, but would probably have it in the tree or looking as though it was climbing the tree or pose it with a shovel as though it was digging it's own grave.

Also, what type of business do you own?  Do you have a good credit score?  Is your vehicle warranty still good?  Are you a proud honky that likes his chicken wings spicy as heck?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 1
    #26973704 - 10/07/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't call it controversial at all. It's a halloween decoration. I fail to see the racial connection.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26973705 - 10/07/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Not unless u want bunch BLM ppl burning down and looting ur business. I wouldn't put any decorations out this year or let kids trick or treat for fear of racists antifa people taking something the wrong way and having a mob of people destroying your shit. Prob best to just sit this year out and hope this whole thing blows over.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26973706 - 10/07/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I wouldn't call it controversial at all. It's a halloween decoration. I fail to see the racial connection.



Lynching


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Dilsnique]
    #26973710 - 10/07/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Is it controversial with racial undertones?
Well, that depends.  Are you a known racist in your community?  Do you have any Pro-Trump signage in your yard?  Could you make it appear that the skeleton was once in the body of a caucasian?

Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
Perhaps, but would probably have it in the tree or looking as though it was climbing the tree or pose it with a shovel as though it was digging it's own grave.

Also, what type of business do you own?  Do you have a good credit score?  Is your vehicle warranty still good?  Are you a proud honky that likes his chicken wings spicy as heck?



Best to just play it safe and not do any spook house stuff this year. Like I said its dumb af but you know how racists are gonna take seeing a skeleton hanging by a noose. Ud be opening up a can of riot on ur front yard.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973712 - 10/07/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh come on man. Basically people will make up a backstory to how the skeleton was hung and come up with a racist plot. That falls on the observer to have some sort of rational thought and look past a symbol of hate and see it as a halloween decoration like I has been used for since forever.

BTW They used to hang most people be k in the day.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973713 - 10/07/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Best to just play it safe






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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 1
    #26973715 - 10/07/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just put a sign on it that says "For Putting Raisins in Potato Salad".

Maybe throw a MAGA hat on it for good measure.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26973719 - 10/07/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't matter u know how the racially preoccupied mind is going to view this in this political climate. Yes undesirable white people were also lynched often unfairly back in the day but u have to look at it in the historical context of slavery and southern oppression


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26973722 - 10/07/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Just put a sign on it that says "For Putting Raisins in Potato Salad".

Maybe throw a MAGA hat on it for good measure.



U want some kinda trump biker convoy rolling past ur house at all hours or a bunch pissed off proud boys messing with ur mailbox or something? Again potential riot city on ur hands cuz u wanted to be a jackass


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 2
    #26973724 - 10/07/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose.





Dude, totally don't do that. You'll be "that guy" in your neighborhood.

Lynching imagery is a taboo.

Letting the skeleton ride a broomstick = bueno

Hanged skeleton = "long ago there were lynchings here"


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Dilsnique] * 1
    #26973725 - 10/07/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, what type of business do you own?  Do you have a good credit score?  Is your vehicle warranty still good?  Are you a proud honky that likes his chicken wings spicy as heck?




I mention the business because I have a public image. My town is small and full of sensitive people. Maybe I’ll just have him doing something in the yard.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26973726 - 10/07/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Welp their gonna be busing in the looters with your yard jockey too my God man.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973734 - 10/07/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If I saw that in someone's yard I would not think racist, I would think Halloween.  Unfortunately today people look for opportunities to be offended just so they can be the first to point the finger.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26973743 - 10/07/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Just put a sign on it that says "For Putting Raisins in Potato Salad".

Maybe throw a MAGA hat on it for good measure.



U want some kinda trump biker convoy rolling past ur house at all hours or a bunch pissed off proud boys messing with ur mailbox or something? Again potential riot city on ur hands cuz u wanted to be a jackass





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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26973752 - 10/07/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose.





Dude, totally don't do that. You'll be "that guy" in your neighborhood.

Lynching imagery is a taboo.

Letting the skeleton ride a broomstick = bueno

Hanged skeleton = "long ago there were lynchings here"




Thanks for the direct answer.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 1
    #26973757 - 10/07/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe I’ll just have him doing something in the yard.










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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Dilsnique] * 1
    #26973817 - 10/07/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe I’ll just have him doing something in the yard.









I like this one, sends the message that one should fuck off and not go up to the door.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi]
    #26973835 - 10/07/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973844 - 10/07/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I was going to say skeleton Santa and skeleton reindeer, that way you can keep it up for 3 months, but people would just think it was a Nightmare Before Christmas reference.

Maybe do Santa in a pilgrim Santa costume. Cover all your bases.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
    #26973881 - 10/07/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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If I saw that in someone's yard I would not think racist, I would think Halloween.  Unfortunately today people look for opportunities to be offended just so they can be the first to point the finger.





I'm pretty sure that in the 1920s, where there was a big lynching in the South literally every week, far more people would think of lynchings, seeing that.

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] * 1
    #26973934 - 10/07/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This year I would play it safe and have the skeleton doggystyling another skeleton


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26973937 - 10/07/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I always found the noose hung skeleton in poor taste, and extraordinarily unimaginative.  Seen some good picks here of skeles doing some whacky shit, but I like my halloween macabre.  At my old house we'd do variations of skeleton bound to tree and torture implements involved. One year we did a bonfire a couple nights before with a stake in the middle.  We then disassembled the skele and painted the bones so they would like they were in a fire, broke some so they looked burned through and put them around the burnt stake with a witches beware sign posted.  You know, get creative.


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    #26973942 - 10/07/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This year I would play it safe and have the skeleton doggystyling another skeleton




Solid advice. I’ll go purchase another skeleton this week. Pics to follow


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26973946 - 10/07/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For inspiration, See what Calvin & Hobbes do with snowmen and do it with skeletons.


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    #26973951 - 10/07/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

We have a contracting business. I’m thinking I’ll have him on a ladder working on the house. Maybe he can have one arm in the other hand using it as an extension with a tool on the end. I can throw a t shirt on him to get some advertising in.


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    #26973961 - 10/07/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)





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    #26974106 - 10/07/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You guys are crazy.

Acting like the only people who have ever been hung with in the history of forever were hung because of Jim Crow.

Stop being so childish and history deaf, you are all honestly embarrassing. Pick up a book once and a while.

Hang it if you want OP.



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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26974118 - 10/07/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yah I changed my mind I say do it. its ur first amendment right. :popcorn:


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    #26974147 - 10/07/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Taking into account the feelings of minorities, what are we even thinking?


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    #26974150 - 10/07/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Lol the only person who’s gonna get offended by that is white fragility Becky.

It’s Halloween ffs


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    #26974153 - 10/07/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hangings still have a fairly bad name among people of color.


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    #26974154 - 10/07/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Think about it tho Asante how many golden opertunities do u get to not only piss off your wife but all ur neighbors minorities libtards trumpsters I mean who else can we throw in. Have him with a hitler mustache fucking a gay bone doggo. If we all just brainstorm this thing could go huge. I'm talking world fucking wide. It could be something so controversial so avante gard it will be touted as groundbreaking expression. A moment where all took a pause to reflect in a time of great hysteria and turmoil. What a genius unbelievable.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26974155 - 10/07/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe we should lower your dexamethasone.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26974164 - 10/07/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This guy who lives by me always does some kinda expression as a Halloween decorations. This year he went full batching
I'm saying what if we went the other way with this thing. Get people to go wow maybe we've gone way too far.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/halloween-decorations-aim-to-educate-and-begin-community-conversation-in-west-hartford/2338184/


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26974175 - 10/07/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say the tree is what makes lynchings the most obvious reference. If you built an actual gallows I don't think anyone would jump to that conclusion. Or, if you wanted to really piss people off, a cross.


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    #26974183 - 10/07/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Pedophile black gay hitler on a cross perhaps?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26974262 - 10/07/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hangings have a bad rep for people who have been hung. I'd say there have been more people gassed than hung. Why are Jewish ppl not outraged by scenes in movies where people are exposed to poisonous gases.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26974325 - 10/07/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries.  It was the death penalty of choice.

Cultural hanging groups:  Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.

There's no racial aspect to this./

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26974335 - 10/07/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Dont tie a noose then

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26974340 - 10/07/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose.





Dude, totally don't do that. You'll be "that guy" in your neighborhood.

Lynching imagery is a taboo.

Letting the skeleton ride a broomstick = bueno

Hanged skeleton = "long ago there were lynchings here"





Dont be that guy that puts up halloween decorations

You guys are out of touch, it's a halloween decoration that has nothing to do with racism


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26974353 - 10/07/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The noose will always be a symbol in America.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 1
    #26974389 - 10/07/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The noose will always be a symbol in America.



The noose has always been a symbol of capital punishment metered publicly. Sometimes it is just, sometimes it is vigilante, sometimes it is hatred.

In mexico and south america it is a symbol of power and violent disregard for life.

In america to many, now that our capital punishment is by needle and chair, it is a symbol of the racist practice of lynching.

To skagithunter
Personally in this time of great turmoil and racial sensitivity I would not use a noose in a halloween display. There are plenty of other ways to display a skeleton without the noose.

Just my .02 I support your free speach but I also ask for your consideration of others.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] * 2
    #26974398 - 10/07/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I would say it's totally fine without any other context... now if you also fly a confederate flag I could see why people would get the wrong idea,
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    #26975145 - 10/08/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?










I was walking around last month and saw a bunch of random nooses hanging in someones yard. This was in September in the boonies. I was super stoned and strolling past and really confused as to wtf this was. Couldn't help but wonder, with everything going on, if this was some racist bullshit.


Quickly surmised that this was someone who had been hanging gourds to dry who left a bunch of their make shift 'nooses' hanging free. So racist. :facepalm:




There are fuckwads out there that do hang nooses as a racist statement, and who do worse. I think it's important to simultaneously call out those fuckers and not lump innocent gourd dryers, or halloween decorators, in with actual racists. The terrorists racists win that way because, when we run around like a bunch of fucking idiots over stuff like this it invalidates legitimate grievances of systemic racism. And it stokes more division amongst people that would otherwise probably find agreement over the things that mattered.


OP, on the otherhand - for all practical purposes, it is just a halloween decoration. Now, I personally think that your wife's request is simple enough, and that y'all could easily find a compromise with how you pose your skeleton. I think a simple costume(pirate or witch maybe?) might also help people remember that this is a holiday for children and that not everything has to be read into super deeply, not everything has a political connotation. There are tons of options and possibilities. Get creative. I don't agree with your SO from the perspective of racism, but how hard would it be to just find another way to pose the skeleton that both of you like?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26975209 - 10/08/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The noose will always be a symbol in America.





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how hard would it be to just find another way to pose the skeleton that both of you like?




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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal]
    #26975223 - 10/08/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries.  It was the death penalty of choice.

Cultural hanging groups:  Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.

There's no racial aspect to this./

Just hang your skeleton.



Don’t forget about witches!
But ya.
People watch too much tv to properly remember history and cling to the newest trend apparently. :rolleyes:
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Dilsnique]
    #26975266 - 10/08/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?





Its not politically correct anymore? Halloween is this crazy?

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Just hang the damn skeleton.




Ah yes just do it. Biden won't care. Trump won't care. If they do fuck em

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Is it controversial with racial undertones?
Well, that depends.  Are you a known racist in your community?  Do you have any Pro-Trump signage in your yard?  Could you make it appear that the skeleton was once in the body of a caucasian?

Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
Perhaps, but would probably have it in the tree or looking as though it was climbing the tree or pose it with a shovel as though it was digging it's own grave.

Also, what type of business do you own?  Do you have a good credit score?  Is your vehicle warranty still good?  Are you a proud honky that likes his chicken wings spicy as heck?




Ah yes. Even further to describe wether the action is politically correct or not. If he is a Trump supporter and he supports Trump then it is not politically correct since it represents racism and his neighborhood will know him as a supporter of a racist President and hanging the skeleton will only further make him look racist. Otherwise go ahead and hang the skeleton. :thumbsup:

Man times have changed since the 1990s. Man times have changed. Back then the skeleton would be cool as long as it did not have blackface or look like Monica Lewinsky. :shrug: now anything you do has to be questioned in political context.

Halloween was originally a Pagan holiday right? Hallowed Eve? So even celebrating Halloween sort of questions the political context of wether you are against the Salem Witch Trial massacres or not. Perhaps Salem is the best place to celebrate Halloween. To really send a message. Fly there for Halloween. Then dress up in make up as though you were in Mexico celebrating Dios De La Muerte. Which is actually the day before or the day after Halloween anyway right? But doing this will give you communication with the dead hung women at the Salem Witch Trial Massacre and really put you in touch with spiritual awareness and send a strong politically correct message. Or maybe dangerously many will find this not politically correct. You will be living dangerously on this day.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal]
    #26975268 - 10/08/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries.  It was the death penalty of choice.

Cultural hanging groups:  Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.

There's no racial aspect to this./

Just hang your skeleton.




Wait then hanging the skeleton would signify that you support the death penalty right? That is not politically correct. People may find it offensive. Research this in depth first before doing it. Really look into it


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #26975276 - 10/08/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:smirk: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever



And its totally 100% politically correct


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26975332 - 10/08/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?





Quote:

"Black people should not be offended by this"




Quote:

"You shouldnt pander to political correctness objections"




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"Its a children's holiday, who cares"





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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel]
    #26975409 - 10/08/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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:smirk: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever



And its totally 100% politically correct



100% agree in it being appropriate and acceptable.
I’ve worn headdresses proudly to festivals and shows before.

All culture is human culture and all lives, memories, and traditions are mine to cherish.

Idiots who cry “cultural appropriation” don’t even understand the meaning of culture or humanity, all that shit does is create more made up lines to divide us.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26975430 - 10/08/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

True. Make note however she wore the costume to protest Elizabeth Warren and to walk around interviewing Democrats to tell them how stupid they were and to make a political statement by dressing up as an Indian.

I have to say she is quite a nasty disgusting person to me. But yes that indian dress up get up would 100% look sexy as fuck if anyone else was wearing it.

Its for sure cool on Halloween. Just not sure if its appropriate to make a political statement. What does Elizabeth Warren have to do with native American indians anyway? She really only dressed up in that way on that day to insult native American indian culture by asking people if they knew how bad of a person Elizabeth Warren is.

But yeah whatever. To each their own. If someone takes the risk to offend someone and gets the crap slapped out of them. Well it is sort of their problem :shrug:


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel]
    #26975445 - 10/08/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, I don’t even know how that lady is, assumed it was just a stock photo.

As far as Warren goes, I’ve never trusted her, she was a republican half of her life and only switched when she realized she was unelectable as a woman within the GOP. Fuck Warren.


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    #26975457 - 10/08/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That girl is one the biggest right wing cunt jobs on the planet and prob a racist. Unbelievable tits tho.


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    #26975464 - 10/08/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Not unless u want bunch BLM ppl burning down and looting ur business. I wouldn't put any decorations out this year or let kids trick or treat for fear of racists antifa people taking something the wrong way and having a mob of people destroying your shit. Prob best to just sit this year out and hope this whole thing blows over.



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Just put a sign on it that says "For Putting Raisins in Potato Salad".

Maybe throw a MAGA hat on it for good measure.



U want some kinda trump biker convoy rolling past ur house at all hours or a bunch pissed off proud boys messing with ur mailbox or something? Again potential riot city on ur hands cuz u wanted to be a jackass



In other words, DO NOT HANG A SKELETON BY A NOOSE IN THIS TIME WE'RE IN!


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26975493 - 10/08/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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That girl is one the biggest right wing cunt jobs on the planet and prob a racist. Unbelievable tits tho.




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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #26975503 - 10/08/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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:smirk: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever



And its totally 100% politically correct



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    #26975575 - 10/08/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?



These are not normal times.  Nooses have become a racist trope and if you do this there is a chance the cancel culture mob will come for you.


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    #26975587 - 10/08/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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:smirk: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever



And its totally 100% politically correct



Poke a hiney?




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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel]
    #26975646 - 10/08/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I politely ask everybody in this discussion to consider this article:

CNN: Why the noose is such a potent symbol of hate






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    #26975723 - 10/08/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Symbols only hold the power we give them.


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    #26975738 - 10/08/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Symbols only hold the power we give them.





The power we give symbols depends on many things, including the group we belong to. A person of Jewish descent is more likely to respond adversely to Nazi symbols, African Americans are more likely to to respond adversely to lynching era symbols.


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    #26975744 - 10/08/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I think it’s a good Halloween decoration.





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    #26975846 - 10/08/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Is that skeleton hanging yet?

If not, what's the hold up?

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    #26975891 - 10/08/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm assuming the connection between the indian costume and Warren was because Elizibeth Warren pretended to be native her whole life.


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    #26975901 - 10/08/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Symbols only hold the power we give them.



That's a very idealistic POV; one can say the exact same thing about words but that doesn't mean words cannot hurt.


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    #26975938 - 10/08/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Is that skeleton hanging yet?

If not, what's the hold up?

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    #26975949 - 10/08/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm assuming the connection between the indian costume and Warren was because Elizibeth Warren pretended to be native her whole life.




Yeah there we go. But racist white trash Kaitlin Bennett sure took advantage of dressing up as her to insult native American Indians and make her point about how Elizabeth Warren pretended that. Racist as fuck. She always does some extremely racist shit to prove to the left that they are the intolerant left. :shrug: which I sort of agree a lot of Democrats are extremely intolerant. But coming from a racist piece of shit like her? Wow she led a gun march on a campus known for a historical campus shooting. Who wants guns on a school campus anyway? She has dug herself a hole now 3rd time today a few thousand students mobbed her off a college campus because she spent weeks previously talking racist shit about all the Democrat students at the school then went there interviewing people pretending to be innocent like "what is everyone mad about?" When she immediately showed up and asked innocent non racist questions trying to prove how stupid Democrats are before they ran her out chanting "shit your pants shit your pants."

I think if I was going to dress up as indian for Halloween it would be cool. If I was going to do it to insult somebody that would be racist as fuck.


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    #26975958 - 10/08/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26975984 - 10/08/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The PC culture is producing fear in people and that's not a good reaction. I should be sensitive to other races/cultures/religions because I don't want to offend them. I shouldn't be fearful of retaliation because I innocently do something that someone finds offensive.

I shouldn't have to examine every action and debate whether it's offensive to some person because of some particular reason. We shouldn't live in fear for just living our lives and offending someone. Yes, deliberately offending groups of people isn't acceptable and should be dealt with in some manner, but looking for ways to be offended to attack people isn't acceptable either.

The bottom line, stop over analyzing everything and stop living in fear. Also, stop looking for reasons to get outraged and offended, it won't serve anyone down the road.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26976002 - 10/08/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

is there more than one?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: qman] * 1
    #26976066 - 10/08/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The bottom line, stop over analyzing everything and stop living in fear. Also, stop looking for reasons to get outraged and offended



The problem is, the latter is already happening en masse, and the the former is a net result of that. Not caring and/or being callous in ones consideration of others is not the answer.

There's nothing wrong with a little sensitivity to others suffering, and the compassion and empathy that stems therefrom. But these days people have been conditioned into being outraged over the smallest thing, and sparking that outrage isn't going to work out welll.

It's a nasty little catch 22 we've got on our hands, and I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't to just just stop, because life doesn't work like that.

So whilst I agree with you in principal, in practice your suggestion is useless.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26976094 - 10/08/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed JSB.



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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26976098 - 10/08/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How could he see? His eyes were closed.

PS: ask people before you take their picture.

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26976101 - 10/08/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The bottom line, stop over analyzing everything and stop living in fear. Also, stop looking for reasons to get outraged and offended



The problem is, the latter is already happening en masse, and the the former is a net result of that. Not caring and/or being callous in ones consideration of others is not the answer.

There's nothing wrong with a little sensitivity to others suffering, and the compassion and empathy that stems therefrom. But these days people have been conditioned into being outraged over the smallest thing, and sparking that outrage isn't going to work out welll.

It's a nasty little catch 22 we've got on our hands, and I don't know what the answer is, but it isn't to just just stop, because life doesn't work like that.

So whilst I agree with you in principal, in practice your suggestion is useless.




It's almost like I could get equally offended by someone taking my innocent action as highly offensive and insensitive, despite my greatest efforts to be caring and sensitive not to offend anybody. I'm not calling to be insensitive, I'm suggesting not live in fear of potentially offending someone or some group of people by mistake.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26976102 - 10/08/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

He came after me right when I snapped it and got up on me in my face saying "you need to erase that!" and such. I'm thinking he was/is some big ceo or something, who knows. I used to see him around dressed up in suits all the time. I still want to make like 50 of them and tape them up all over the gay district, lol.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26976116 - 10/08/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Gay district? Gerrymandering has been illegal for 25 years:witch:


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    #26976118 - 10/08/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm suggesting not live in fear of potentially offending someone or some group of people by mistake.



I don't exactly think a lot of people are living 'in fear'. I mean just look at the goddamn internet/social media.

I think the root of the issue is that people ARE getting offended, and, social creatures that we are, I don't think the majority WANT to offend, so some are considering the consequences of their actions a little more carefully.

The fact that some people - as evidenced in this thread - are thinking a little cautiously (honestly, the possibility of OP causing offense didn't even spring to my mind) given the current climate surrounding matters of skin pigmentation does not equate to living in fear IMO.

I mean after all if you don't care, why are you writing about this whole thing like you do?

P.S - I'm just shooting the shit here, I have no vested interest in the matter.


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    #26976143 - 10/08/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26976146 - 10/08/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Gay district? Gerrymandering has been illegal for 25 years:witch:



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    #26976166 - 10/08/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Agreed JSB.



Gay bar Dallas 2012. This guy was so pissed I took his pic and he tried to make me erase it. I faked it, lol!




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    #26976181 - 10/08/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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    #26976201 - 10/08/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Put trump hair on the skeleton. Problem solved. :house:


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    #26976213 - 10/08/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, no! He can't do that!

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    #26976240 - 10/08/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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    #26976242 - 10/08/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Kaitlin Bennett



Why is everyone so obsessed with this cunt? Doesn't it strike you that she's the kind of person that that's exactly what she wants?


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    #26976245 - 10/08/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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    #26976254 - 10/08/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Republicans tend to like young women who repeat the same right wing talking points that’ve been repeated for the past couple decades eg. Tomi Lahren, Candace Owens, basically any Fox News anchor you can remember off the top of your head aside from Tucker.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: qman] * 1
    #26976432 - 10/09/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The PC culture is producing fear in people and that's not a good reaction. I should be sensitive to other races/cultures/religions because I don't want to offend them. I shouldn't be fearful of retaliation





No you just don't get it. You behave in a gentlemanly fashion as to not cause needless upset in others, for their sake, not because they pose a threat to you.

Respecting the other, ever heard of that?


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I innocently do something that someone finds offensive.





We are LONG past that point. It has been positively demonstrated as offensive. There is no innocence in proceeding now, just a disregard for minority feelings.


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I shouldn't have to examine every action and debate whether it's offensive to some person because of some particular reason. We shouldn't live in fear for just living our lives and offending someone.




Again that fear, fear. Do black peoples feelings matter to you only in as much thay are capable to break a baseball bat on your face? Doesn't wanting to make them not feel bad by your actions, especially on a festive day, not come natural to you?


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Yes, deliberately offending groups of people isn't acceptable and should be dealt with in some manner, but looking for ways to be offended to attack people isn't acceptable either.





That is what this is:deliberately offending someone. His wife said NO, it could be taken as racially insensitive. The thread reactions vary from "fuck them AND their feelings" and "Yes its racially delicate."  That makes it deliberate and not innocent.

Black people aren't looking for ways to get offended. If you start hanging nooses from trees many of them will not be comfortable for obvious reasons.


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The bottom line, stop over analyzing everything and stop living in fear.




Its not about fear, its about taking care not to come off as an asshole Too few Americans are taking care not to come off as assholes which is why you have this intensely divided falling-apart society full of potholes. Nobody gives a fuck about the others anymore, that is your problem. To hell if you offend the black community, hang a noose in your garden. Its your goddamned right as an American.


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Also, stop looking for reasons to get outraged and offended, it won't serve anyone down the road.




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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26976438 - 10/09/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?





It is, and if there is backlash in your community because of perceived racial insensity this will hurt the standing of your family and your business within it.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26976453 - 10/09/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Politics aside: if your wife doesn't want you to do it, don't fucking do it.
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    #26976653 - 10/09/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in a position at my company to fire people, if I got a complaint about someone with skele with a noose in the yard had lynched skele, we'd + upper management would have a real long talk, most probably ending with the employees termination.  My work place is one of inclusion, and has been before it was popular.  It's a scientific field, just off the top of my had we Have; African Americans, Latinx. Cubans, South Americans, Hatians/Domincan and Caribbean.  We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, Laotian, Iranian, Afghany, Egyptian, Indian workers. We have a 0 tolerance policy for bullshit like this, that you sign, and it extends to out of work activities.  You have a responsibility to represent the brand at work, but also in any public forum with dignity and respect.  Failure to comply can lead to various punishment including termination.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26976677 - 10/09/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Its your goddamned right as an American.



Thankfully it's only a % of people here that display this attitude, but goddamn, it's so repulsive when one comes across it that it really does do harm to the whole cultural identity of this place.

Just the arrogance of it. And then - as you succintly pointed out - the other side is blaming the victim; 'Well, it's your fault for getting upset'.

There's so much to be gained from, and so much value in, being sensitive towards others.

There's obviously a line, but I don't think it's that blurry?


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I'm in a position at my company to fire people, if I got a complaint about someone with skele with a noose in the yard had lynched skele, we'd + upper management would have a real long talk, most probably ending with the employees termination.  My work place is one of inclusion, and has been before it was popular.  It's a scientific field, just off the top of my had we Have; African Americans, Latinx. Cubans, South Americans, Hatians/Domincan and Caribbean.  We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, Laotian, Iranian, Afghany, Egyptian, Indian workers. We have a 0 tolerance policy for bullshit like this, that you sign, and it extends to out of work activities.  You have a responsibility to represent the brand at work, but also in any public forum with dignity and respect.  Failure to comply can lead to various punishment including termination.




:asianofapproval:


The whole:

WIFE: "you can't do that, thats racially insensitive."
HUSBAND: "but I think its an awesome garden ornament."

is not equal in value. Racially Insensitve Display by far outweighs Fun Garden Ornament on the list of priorities.

They are not even in the same league.

"Racially Insensitive Display" is why all those statues are coming down. You want to erect one in your front yard to the dismay of your wife.


What are you showing? Describe it.

"Someone who was lynched from an elm tree and left to hang so long nothing but bones is left."

Your wife does not want that image to be part of what defines you in the community.


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    #26976707 - 10/09/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is what I was trying to tell you recently about DSHSB in the Pub. Is it such an awesome tradition that it's worth driving people away? I noticed the OP of that thread abandoned it.


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    #26976713 - 10/09/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is what I was trying to tell you recently about DSHSB in the Pub. Is it such an awesome tradition that it's worth driving people away? I noticed the OP of that thread abandoned it.



As is that the thread that that new girl started?

I'd be all up for dropping something like that from the Pub. That whole thing was pretty cringeworthy but shit like that term takes it OTT IMO.


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    #26976716 - 10/09/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is what I was trying to tell you recently about DSHSB in the Pub. Is it such an awesome tradition that it's worth driving people away? I noticed the OP of that thread abandoned it.





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    #26976718 - 10/09/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that was the one.

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This is what I was trying to tell you recently about DSHSB in the Pub. Is it such an awesome tradition that it's worth driving people away? I noticed the OP of that thread abandoned it.





point taken.



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    #26976729 - 10/09/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That sucks and all, but if someone left because of a little DSHSB they are going to have a hard time staying in general.

You guys know how much shit ive had to deal with over the years. :lol:


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    #26976745 - 10/09/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

True, but maybe it doesn't have to be that way, at least in the Pub. There are plenty of other parts of the site where it's more like anything goes.


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:wonka:


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    #26976753 - 10/09/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26976755 - 10/09/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

DSHSB is heritage not hate! :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #26976760 - 10/09/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think we do have a problem retaining female users, or any new users more generally. Other than Poor Boy's latest puppet and the odd actual new person who clicks with the culture here.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26976764 - 10/09/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I think we do have a problem retaining female users, or any new users more generally. Other than Poor Boy's latest puppet and the odd actual new person who clicks with the culture here.





You can add minority users to that.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26976769 - 10/09/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutely, I can think of a number of people of other backgrounds who were great posters and rarely come around any more.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi]
    #26976783 - 10/09/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone on this site is a minority :lol:


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26976790 - 10/09/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Everyone on this site is a minority :lol:





Solidarity between minorities very often are not a thing. Many minorities discriminate the crap out of other minorities.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26976873 - 10/09/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I think we do have a problem retaining female users, or any new users more generally. Other u ya Poor Boy's latest puppet and the odd actual new person who clicks with the culture here.



100% Things have gotten a lot better here with time as far as toxicity towards women goes, but that’s kinda gone with the times. I was homeschooled and and was basically raised on the internet during a time it was very hard to openly be a woman on the internet. But the years of “tits or gtfo” is more or less behind us, at least from what I’ve seen. All in all the internet is much more accepting of women, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be the occasional creeps. Idk exactly where I’m going with this. I guess I’m just trying to say, I’ve had idiots post shit directed at my like “post tits” since I was like 12 y/o so I’m kinda used to that stupid shit, where as a younger woman who didn’t have to year with that age of the internet might have much softer skin when it comes to things like that, so ya, I agree. We have enough to deal with, let us ladies post in peace.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #26976899 - 10/09/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I often hear people saying the Pub is like OTD used to be. If that's the case, do we need to all work to make the Pub a bit more welcoming?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #26976918 - 10/09/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.

Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?




We recently hung up 4 of our skeletons, none by the neck though.. we will prob set up the rest this weekend.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Cracked Egg] * 1
    #26976923 - 10/09/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oooh! Just thought of a good idea!  Set 10 bones up in bowling pin formation and pose a skeleton as though its about to roll a skull at them.



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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #26976925 - 10/09/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)







Even got a gay skeleton



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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26976926 - 10/09/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I think we do have a problem retaining female users, or any new users more generally. Other than Poor Boy's latest puppet and the odd actual new person who clicks with the culture here.





You can add minority users to that.



While I’m not disagreeing with you, I would like to point out that the response to someone making a stupid comment about race or making a stupid comment about sex is night and day.
If someone says something stupid about race not only will they be attacked by a dozen different members, but they will be punished by the moderation team more often than not.
If someone makes a dumb comment about women everyone, including the moderation team kinda just laughs it off.
This is especially true then it comes to dumb comments made about transgendered people’s being ignored and allowed.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi]
    #26976930 - 10/09/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is what I was trying to tell you recently about DSHSB in the Pub. Is it such an awesome tradition that it's worth driving people away? I noticed the OP of that thread abandoned it.



yeah thats a good point.

so

nice decoration < naw it could be offensive to black people

but

could be offensive to sexual assult victims < its a funny acronym.

is it that people possibly thinking you are dog whistling for racist ideas is worse in your mind than possibly offending rape victims? or is it that humour is more important than decoration and therefore worth the sacrifice?


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26976994 - 10/09/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

He did say "point taken" so I think he may be reconsidering his stance about the other topic.



I think it's important to distinguish between being "offended" as it usually means in the modern era (i.e. I delight in the opportunity to point out your offense) vs a person with traumatic life experiences who is essentially forced to relive them when reminded of them by something. "Safe spaces" and "trigger warnings" etc get a lot of flak but they were originally supposed to be about accommodating the latter group.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26976996 - 10/09/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody told me that cute girls name in that injun getup.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Mythos]
    #26977013 - 10/09/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Nobody told me that cute girls name in that injun getup.



Poke a hiney :smirk:


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26977023 - 10/09/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

No it isn't


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Mythos]
    #26977196 - 10/09/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Kaitlyn Bennet


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26977261 - 10/09/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Kaitlin Bennett





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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: psi]
    #26977737 - 10/09/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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He did say "point taken" so I think he may be reconsidering his stance about the other topic.



I think it's important to distinguish between being "offended" as it usually means in the modern era (i.e. I delight in the opportunity to point out your offense) vs a person with traumatic life experiences who is essentially forced to relive them when reminded of them by something. "Safe spaces" and "trigger warnings" etc get a lot of flak but they were originally supposed to be about accommodating the latter group.



I didnt see the point taken forget I said anything.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #26978010 - 10/10/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Even got a gay skeleton






That does look like a gay skeleton!

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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26978387 - 10/10/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Very nice and gay


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26978395 - 10/10/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Make it two skeletons hanging each other, it’ll hopefully confuse everyone who tries to politicize it.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26978401 - 10/10/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Make it a rope noose guy getting hanged on a bone gallow.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26978415 - 10/10/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Get a skeleton with trump hair hanging another skeleton holding puppet strings controlling a mini skeleton holding toilet paper :awehigh:


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26978433 - 10/10/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Make ur whole house into a skeleton village called the bone zone and throw an orgy rave. A meeting of the minds and a meeting of the bodies. A celebration of the flesh. Skeleton men will beat large bone drums rump pump pump rump pump pump one will play a single note all night on a skin flute. It will not take long till all in attentance are seized by the spirit of these horrible rights and give thier bodies to be mangled. The sights and sounds of the skin flute the vibration of the drum will lead to a trance induced ecstasy which will not allow thought of self. Day after day night after night the drums will beat a frenzied tattoo until it becomes maddening. The debauchery will continue for the higher glory of the pegan bone God whos followers know no limits in their thirst to appease their feared demon God. Every sense is shocked to the extent these diluted people will go. This goes on hour after hour and the last one is no less hectic than the first until it is over.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26978445 - 10/10/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Do this instead, so only poor people will take offense.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
    #26978668 - 10/10/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The PC culture is producing fear in people and that's not a good reaction. I should be sensitive to other races/cultures/religions because I don't want to offend them. I shouldn't be fearful of retaliation





No you just don't get it. You behave in a gentlemanly fashion as to not cause needless upset in others, for their sake, not because they pose a threat to you.

Respecting the other, ever heard of that?


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I innocently do something that someone finds offensive.





We are LONG past that point. It has been positively demonstrated as offensive. There is no innocence in proceeding now, just a disregard for minority feelings.


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I shouldn't have to examine every action and debate whether it's offensive to some person because of some particular reason. We shouldn't live in fear for just living our lives and offending someone.




Again that fear, fear. Do black peoples feelings matter to you only in as much thay are capable to break a baseball bat on your face? Doesn't wanting to make them not feel bad by your actions, especially on a festive day, not come natural to you?


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Yes, deliberately offending groups of people isn't acceptable and should be dealt with in some manner, but looking for ways to be offended to attack people isn't acceptable either.





That is what this is:deliberately offending someone. His wife said NO, it could be taken as racially insensitive. The thread reactions vary from "fuck them AND their feelings" and "Yes its racially delicate."  That makes it deliberate and not innocent.

Black people aren't looking for ways to get offended. If you start hanging nooses from trees many of them will not be comfortable for obvious reasons.


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The bottom line, stop over analyzing everything and stop living in fear.




Its not about fear, its about taking care not to come off as an asshole Too few Americans are taking care not to come off as assholes which is why you have this intensely divided falling-apart society full of potholes. Nobody gives a fuck about the others anymore, that is your problem. To hell if you offend the black community, hang a noose in your garden. Its your goddamned right as an American.


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Also, stop looking for reasons to get outraged and offended, it won't serve anyone down the road.




Blaming the victim.




Calm down already, I was speaking in generalities and made zero reference to the OP. Your replies are therefore moot.


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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Malkuthian]
    #26979171 - 10/10/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Do this instead, so only poor people will take offense.





What is this amazingness?


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    #26979180 - 10/10/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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