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Patlal
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SonicTitan]
#26974325 - 10/07/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries. It was the death penalty of choice.
Cultural hanging groups: Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.
There's no racial aspect to this./
Just hang your skeleton.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
#26974335 - 10/07/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dont tie a noose then
Tie a running bowline or a double fisherman's knot
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Asante]
#26974340 - 10/07/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SkagitHunter said: My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose.
Dude, totally don't do that. You'll be "that guy" in your neighborhood.
Lynching imagery is a taboo.
Letting the skeleton ride a broomstick = bueno
Hanged skeleton = "long ago there were lynchings here"
Dont be that guy that puts up halloween decorations
You guys are out of touch, it's a halloween decoration that has nothing to do with racism
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal] 1
#26974353 - 10/07/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The noose will always be a symbol in America.
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Ahab McBathsalts said: The noose will always be a symbol in America.
The noose has always been a symbol of capital punishment metered publicly. Sometimes it is just, sometimes it is vigilante, sometimes it is hatred.
In mexico and south america it is a symbol of power and violent disregard for life.
In america to many, now that our capital punishment is by needle and chair, it is a symbol of the racist practice of lynching.
To skagithunter Personally in this time of great turmoil and racial sensitivity I would not use a noose in a halloween display. There are plenty of other ways to display a skeleton without the noose.
Just my .02 I support your free speach but I also ask for your consideration of others.
Edited by Sugabearcrisp (10/08/20 01:17 PM)
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 2
#26974398 - 10/07/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would say it's totally fine without any other context... now if you also fly a confederate flag I could see why people would get the wrong idea, but hanging is an equal opportunity past time as far as history is concerned
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter] 5
#26975145 - 10/08/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SkagitHunter said: My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.
Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
I was walking around last month and saw a bunch of random nooses hanging in someones yard. This was in September in the boonies. I was super stoned and strolling past and really confused as to wtf this was. Couldn't help but wonder, with everything going on, if this was some racist bullshit.
Quickly surmised that this was someone who had been hanging gourds to dry who left a bunch of their make shift 'nooses' hanging free. So racist.
There are fuckwads out there that do hang nooses as a racist statement, and who do worse. I think it's important to simultaneously call out those fuckers and not lump innocent gourd dryers, or halloween decorators, in with actual racists. The terrorists racists win that way because, when we run around like a bunch of fucking idiots over stuff like this it invalidates legitimate grievances of systemic racism. And it stokes more division amongst people that would otherwise probably find agreement over the things that mattered.
OP, on the otherhand - for all practical purposes, it is just a halloween decoration. Now, I personally think that your wife's request is simple enough, and that y'all could easily find a compromise with how you pose your skeleton. I think a simple costume(pirate or witch maybe?) might also help people remember that this is a holiday for children and that not everything has to be read into super deeply, not everything has a political connotation. There are tons of options and possibilities. Get creative. I don't agree with your SO from the perspective of racism, but how hard would it be to just find another way to pose the skeleton that both of you like?
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: pirate-blues]
#26975209 - 10/08/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahab McBathsalts said: The noose will always be a symbol in America.
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pirate-blues said: how hard would it be to just find another way to pose the skeleton that both of you like?
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal]
#26975223 - 10/08/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries. It was the death penalty of choice.
Cultural hanging groups: Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.
There's no racial aspect to this./
Just hang your skeleton.
Don’t forget about witches! But ya. People watch too much tv to properly remember history and cling to the newest trend apparently. I don’t know why I’m surprised.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Dilsnique]
#26975266 - 10/08/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SkagitHunter said: My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.
Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
Its not politically correct anymore? Halloween is this crazy?
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Patlal said: Just hang the damn skeleton.
Ah yes just do it. Biden won't care. Trump won't care. If they do fuck em
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Dilsnique said: Is it controversial with racial undertones? Well, that depends. Are you a known racist in your community? Do you have any Pro-Trump signage in your yard? Could you make it appear that the skeleton was once in the body of a caucasian?
Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton? Perhaps, but would probably have it in the tree or looking as though it was climbing the tree or pose it with a shovel as though it was digging it's own grave.
Also, what type of business do you own? Do you have a good credit score? Is your vehicle warranty still good? Are you a proud honky that likes his chicken wings spicy as heck?
Ah yes. Even further to describe wether the action is politically correct or not. If he is a Trump supporter and he supports Trump then it is not politically correct since it represents racism and his neighborhood will know him as a supporter of a racist President and hanging the skeleton will only further make him look racist. Otherwise go ahead and hang the skeleton.
Man times have changed since the 1990s. Man times have changed. Back then the skeleton would be cool as long as it did not have blackface or look like Monica Lewinsky. now anything you do has to be questioned in political context.
Halloween was originally a Pagan holiday right? Hallowed Eve? So even celebrating Halloween sort of questions the political context of wether you are against the Salem Witch Trial massacres or not. Perhaps Salem is the best place to celebrate Halloween. To really send a message. Fly there for Halloween. Then dress up in make up as though you were in Mexico celebrating Dios De La Muerte. Which is actually the day before or the day after Halloween anyway right? But doing this will give you communication with the dead hung women at the Salem Witch Trial Massacre and really put you in touch with spiritual awareness and send a strong politically correct message. Or maybe dangerously many will find this not politically correct. You will be living dangerously on this day.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: Patlal]
#26975268 - 10/08/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: People used to hang people as the death penalty all over the world throughout many countries. It was the death penalty of choice.
Cultural hanging groups: Pirates, murderers, traitors, criminals in general.
There's no racial aspect to this./
Just hang your skeleton.
Wait then hanging the skeleton would signify that you support the death penalty right? That is not politically correct. People may find it offensive. Research this in depth first before doing it. Really look into it
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel] 1
#26975276 - 10/08/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever
And its totally 100% politically correct
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SkagitHunter]
#26975332 - 10/08/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SkagitHunter said: My wife says I can’t hang a skeleton from our elm tree with a noose. I think it’s a good Halloween decoration. I live in a small town and we own a business. I am also a firefighter in said town.
Is it controversial with racial undertones? Would you do this if you had an elm tree and a skeleton?
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"Black people should not be offended by this"
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"You shouldnt pander to political correctness objections"
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"Its a children's holiday, who cares"
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel]
#26975409 - 10/08/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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imachavel said: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever
And its totally 100% politically correct
100% agree in it being appropriate and acceptable. I’ve worn headdresses proudly to festivals and shows before.
All culture is human culture and all lives, memories, and traditions are mine to cherish.
Idiots who cry “cultural appropriation” don’t even understand the meaning of culture or humanity, all that shit does is create more made up lines to divide us.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin]
#26975430 - 10/08/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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True. Make note however she wore the costume to protest Elizabeth Warren and to walk around interviewing Democrats to tell them how stupid they were and to make a political statement by dressing up as an Indian.
I have to say she is quite a nasty disgusting person to me. But yes that indian dress up get up would 100% look sexy as fuck if anyone else was wearing it.
Its for sure cool on Halloween. Just not sure if its appropriate to make a political statement. What does Elizabeth Warren have to do with native American indians anyway? She really only dressed up in that way on that day to insult native American indian culture by asking people if they knew how bad of a person Elizabeth Warren is.
But yeah whatever. To each their own. If someone takes the risk to offend someone and gets the crap slapped out of them. Well it is sort of their problem
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel]
#26975445 - 10/08/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm, I don’t even know how that lady is, assumed it was just a stock photo.
As far as Warren goes, I’ve never trusted her, she was a republican half of her life and only switched when she realized she was unelectable as a woman within the GOP. Fuck Warren.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: SARAtonin] 2
#26975457 - 10/08/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That girl is one the biggest right wing cunt jobs on the planet and prob a racist. Unbelievable tits tho.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Not unless u want bunch BLM ppl burning down and looting ur business. I wouldn't put any decorations out this year or let kids trick or treat for fear of racists antifa people taking something the wrong way and having a mob of people destroying your shit. Prob best to just sit this year out and hope this whole thing blows over.
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Baby_Hitler said: Just put a sign on it that says "For Putting Raisins in Potato Salad".
Maybe throw a MAGA hat on it for good measure.
U want some kinda trump biker convoy rolling past ur house at all hours or a bunch pissed off proud boys messing with ur mailbox or something? Again potential riot city on ur hands cuz u wanted to be a jackass
In other words, DO NOT HANG A SKELETON BY A NOOSE IN THIS TIME WE'RE IN!
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: That girl is one the biggest right wing cunt jobs on the planet and prob a racist. Unbelievable tits tho.
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Re: Hanging skeleton - controversial? [Re: imachavel] 1
#26975503 - 10/08/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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imachavel said: I think this is my favorite Halloween dress up ever
And its totally 100% politically correct
Poke a hiney?
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