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Should I Harvest Yet?
    #26973344 - 10/07/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I woke up this morning to this.


Some of them aren't ready yet, but I don't want spores dropping everywhere. These are GT's if it makes a difference. I could take out several right now that have broken veils, however, they're mostly attached to ones that aren't quite ready yet and I was hoping to get a 2nd flush out of this thing down the road.

Would appreciate some sound advice and ASAP before spores start dropping.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26973355 - 10/07/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Pick the ones with the broken veils


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: seand04]
    #26973361 - 10/07/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Even if they're attached to ones that aren't ready yet? I can't get in there with an exacto I don't think. Just afraid of screwing up.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26973363 - 10/07/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I would,  I would rather pull a few small ones than have spores drop all over my sub


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: seand04]
    #26973366 - 10/07/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah probably best, unfortunately, there are so many finished ones that almost each one has an unfinished buddy. Just have a feeling I'm not going to have much left after this but it's exciting!


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26973370 - 10/07/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You can wait until the end of the day but I would pick them before tomorrow.  They open and drop spores super fast.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: seand04]
    #26973375 - 10/07/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How much do you have going on today?  I'd give em another 4-6 hours personally, but you're definitely entering the window of "OK to harvest".


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    #26973379 - 10/07/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just snip the caps off the ones that open with a scissors so they don’t shit all over your grow

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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26973381 - 10/07/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I got the majority out of there, what's left inside is mostly bruised now, unfortunately. I took some more substrate and patched any holes that I made.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26973382 - 10/07/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Just snip the caps off the ones that open with a scissors so they don’t shit all over your grow

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Oh man,  never thought of that. Thats why I love this forum. Snip em and print em.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26973385 - 10/07/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thats what I usually do. But I was just taken back to school by the TC. I feel dumb now


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26973392 - 10/07/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Just snip the caps off the ones that open with a scissors so they don’t shit all over your grow

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I'll keep this in mind. Oddly I noticed some of my stipes splitting while I was picking. Is this normal?


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: seand04]
    #26973393 - 10/07/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats what I usually do. But I was just taken back to school by the TC. I feel dumb now





Don’t feel dumb... there’s a lot of shiat to keep track of in this hobby.. I constantly lose shit right in front of me and have to ask my gf for another set of eyes.  Especially in the fridge. :lol:

OP:  usually split stems have to do with growth rate or excess water or both.. nothing to worry about ime

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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26973397 - 10/07/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks everybody! Hope these things are potent enough.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26974987 - 10/08/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Another question as far as harvesting and prepping for 2nd flush goes:

Am I to be just patching spots I plucked substrate out along with the fruits with brand new substrate? Or would it be best to wit until completely harvested and then adding another small casing layer and misting heavily?

Sorry, my last tub didn't have a 2nd flush it just dried up and died. Trying to make that not the case this time since this is the best I've done so far. 1.5 oz dry and counting still.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26974998 - 10/08/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You'll want to rehydrate your substrate for a good second flush.  Just fill your tub with enough water to cover your substrate, then put a plate (or something else to distribute weight evenly) along with a weight on the substrate to keep it underwater.  Leave it like that for 12-24 hours and it should be all good.  I don't bother patching or casing and get pretty decent second flushes.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26975078 - 10/08/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I always have trouble draining excess water from the tub with the substrate in it lol. I get so anxious about dropping the substrate.

This sounds super simple though. I mean I used to dunk cakes when I did those so it only makes sense.

Also are you supposed to remove all aborts before doing this? Are all aborts black too? I have a lot of small pins that don't seem like they've done much since showing up


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26975082 - 10/08/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Helps if you've got someone who can help hold it, but I often don't and, if I'm being honest, will frequently break my substrates on accident.  They'll still fruit just fine.  Alternatively, you could use a siphon to get the water out.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26975092 - 10/08/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you, I, fortunately, do have someone to help hold it


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26975098 - 10/08/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

3 hours is more appropriate for bulk subs and even that is too long for some people.. a lot of ppl just soak the top of the sub with water via misting for a couple days and let it ride that way.  Pf cakes should be dunked for 12-24 hours because they’re denser.  Bulk subs will absorb water much faster and there’s a lot of water from the first flush still available for the second.

Check out this thread Tribal dunk. Only one hour is recommended in that thread

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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26975103 - 10/08/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man. And as far as the aborts question? Also storing dry fruits in a ziplock bag in a dark place, is this fine?


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26975112 - 10/08/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Many thanks.  It's always nice to find where you're putting in too much work!


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26975118 - 10/08/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’d try and get as many aborts as possible but leaving some shouldn’t be a problem.. even the black ones will just be retaken over by myc (they’ll get all fuzzy).

As far as storage goes... in a baggie is ok, but they’re nowhere near air right and exposure to oxygen is a big degrader of the magic over time.  My favorite method is vacuum sealing but if you don’t have that option, putting them (after cracker dry—24 hours in a dehydrator) into a canning jar with an airtight lid and a desiccant pack works really well too.  Year+ with those methods


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26975231 - 10/08/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Man I absolutely hate it when they grow all uneven like that. Always makes harvesting a pain. I find the first flush or two are usually pretty even and after that they just grow all willy nilly.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26975368 - 10/08/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I’d try and get as many aborts as possible but leaving some shouldn’t be a problem.. even the black ones will just be retaken over by myc (they’ll get all fuzzy).

As far as storage goes... in a baggie is ok, but they’re nowhere near air right and exposure to oxygen is a big degrader of the magic over time.  My favorite method is vacuum sealing but if you don’t have that option, putting them (after cracker dry—24 hours in a dehydrator) into a canning jar with an airtight lid and a desiccant pack works really well too.  Year+ with those methods


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Man I absolutely hate it when they grow all uneven like that. Always makes harvesting a pain. I find the first flush or two are usually pretty even and after that they just grow all willy nilly.



Yeah this picture may make you cringe a little then lol



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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: fahtster]
    #26975451 - 10/08/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I’d try and get as many aborts as possible but leaving some shouldn’t be a problem.. even the black ones will just be retaken over by myc (they’ll get all fuzzy).

As far as storage goes... in a baggie is ok, but they’re nowhere near air right, and exposure to oxygen is a big degrader of the magic over time.  My favorite method is vacuum sealing but if you don’t have that option, putting them (after cracker dry—24 hours in a dehydrator) into a canning jar with an airtight lid and a desiccant pack works really well too.  Year+ with those methods


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I put them cracker dry inside some half-pint mason jars since I can't find any other size at the store currently. It's like the pandemic hit and everybody started growing shrooms lol. I don't have desiccant packs in there with them yet but I can get some I'm sure.


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    #26975492 - 10/08/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah this picture may make you cringe a little then lol





:eek: what on earth is going on there

It looks like the mushrooms are acting as a barrier between the colonized and uncolonized substrate haha


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26977138 - 10/09/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

First flush still doesn't seem finished. I've harvested a lot but it looks as if the last ones left have started to stall in growth and they aren't finished yet. some are rather small and one or 2 are average size. What's going on here? Any advice? Should I just pick the rest and prep for 2nd flush?


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26977153 - 10/09/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah if they’re stalling out, I’d just pick em and set up for the next flush

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    #26977166 - 10/09/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you! I just went ahead with a heavy misting after harvesting.


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    #26977301 - 10/09/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah this picture may make you cringe a little then lol





:eek: what on earth is going on there

It looks like the mushrooms are acting as a barrier between the colonized and uncolonized substrate haha




It's an assumption, but it looks like they picked a few clusters from the right side and left a huge crater so they patched it with substrate. Freaked me out, too.


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    #26977336 - 10/09/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah this picture may make you cringe a little then lol





:eek: what on earth is going on there

It looks like the mushrooms are acting as a barrier between the colonized and uncolonized substrate haha




It's an assumption, but it looks like they picked a few clusters from the right side and left a huge crater so they patched it with substrate. Freaked me out, too.




That's all it is lol


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26978107 - 10/10/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I took 3.5g of these last night to test them out.

Definitely not as strong as I was hoping, although I've never had some insanely potent GT strain before, so I'd say they're average potency. Just wish it didn't take me so much weight to get a nice heavy trip off of mushrooms. Visuals are what I typically like most, but unless it's not a cube, it won't cause many visuals for me if any at all aside from trails.

I'm also keeping in my I just had a 240ug LSD trip about 6 days ago lol so I know that's got something to do with it. Regardless though, unless they're PE's, generally, it takes upwards of 6 or 7 grams for me to start seeing colors or any kind of fractal. Really wish this wasn't the case...I've tried the whole lemon tek thing before too but that didn't help much.

I mainly just want these things to stay potent enough in the mason jars over the next few months so they're grabbable at any time. Still don't have any desiccant packets yet. Hoping to get some soon.

It would be really interesting to somehow make a liquid extract of psilocybin, like a tincture.


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Re: Should I Harvest Yet? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26978389 - 10/10/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You can make tea and then freeze it.. that’ll preserve potency and it doesn’t have to be a lot of liquid.. you can reduce it down to a pretty potent couple shots or Ice cubes

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    #26978458 - 10/10/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So just take the dose you want and make that into a tea you're saying? Whatever dose?


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    #26978641 - 10/10/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah so let’s say you have 12 cubes in an ice tray and you want each to have ~2 grams... make 24 grams of mush tea and pour it into the tray and freeze it. 

If I were doing it, I’d fill up the ice cube tray with water first.. then pour that into a pot and make standard tea.. maybe use 3ish tea bags.. then after you remove the tea bags, add a couple cubes worth of water for evaporation and some loss due to being absorbed by the mush material.  Add the 24 gms (not ground but in semi-small pieces)... simmer that for 15-20 minutes.. then strain with a wire strained and pour that back into the ice cube tray and freeze

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    #26978680 - 10/10/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This sounds like it's worth trying. Thank you for all of that information. Sounds like it might be a bitch to strain into an ice cube tray.


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    #26979848 - 10/11/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Strain it into a pitcher with a pour spout.


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