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MindMeower
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Trip that turned out wrong
#26973062 - 10/06/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I planned to trip on saturday, just over a week after a trip I had earlier that went quite well. I tried arginine to counter vasoconstriction and it did wonders to the 4 gram trip and this time I was going to go a bit bigger and badder and see how it turned out.
I took two ~100mg extracted harmala alkaloids capsules with a dose of tryptophan and arginine and then went on to prepare tea from 5.2grams of GT while harmalas and co begin to take effect.
After aboit 40 mins I began to feel high. I began to get strong tinnitus and body drunkenness and I realized that the harmalas were kicking in waaaaay stronger and I began to have flashbacks of my 600mg harmala trip which was pretty shitty overall. My scale is not super accurate at low weights and I figured the capsules were like 150mg each and I ended up with 300mg rather than 200mg... next time I will not try to take 2 capsules...
I was feeling not very good and I decided to wait for the harmala effects to weaken before taking mushrooms or I would be in for a bad time without getting enjoyment out the trip. Harmalas had other idea and they started to get stronger over time and I began to feel significant discomfort but unlike last last time of harmalas I didn't barf on every small movement though I was getting seasickness feeling when I moved so I simply sat still and watched a movie on TV to ride it out. I also began to get some tracers and minor visuals which was good.
Roughly 3 hours later the harmalas began to wear off but it had got late enough that if I took my mushroom tea I would trip well into my sleep time and tripping while tired is not all that pleasant so I simply opted not to trip this day and postpone it to the next.
I put the tea I prepared into the fridge for the next day, worked on some work things and went to sleep. I slept pretty good too.
So on the next day I ate nicely, did some work stuff and eventually came the time to trip. Prior I drank a vitamin drink + arginine and a bit later I drank that tea and about 20 mins later the effects began to kick in.
There comeup was quite slow and gradual and unlike the last trip I began to feel significant discomfort due to a fever I developed. Mushrooms always raise my temperature but this time it was a bit more than last time and I had to actively cool myself with ice cream and ice water bottle or I simply began to feel sick and sluggish. It seems my brain doesn't like being hot the slightest. Just cooling my head with cold water gives immediate relief and I begin to feel good until thngs heat up again...
Another thing was that the trip ended up really weak too, there weren't any really cool visuals, no nice mental effects, nothing at all like some 4 gram trips from past occasions that were total awesome. Not even greens helped a whole lot. I would have been fine with this if it weren't for the bodily discomfort, I spent a lot of effort trying to be comfortable and that left me no time to actually enjoy the trip, as weak as it ended up being. As long as I was able to cool myself I felt ok and could do things without problem but as soon as cooling stops I begin to heat up and progressively feel worse and weaker.
In the end I started to think that the mushrooms I grew this time are different from my past grows. I never got this level of physical effects from the last grow, while at the same time I got nice mental effects and visuals...
I'm gonna have to try to get my hands on some spores of (A)PE, perhaps things turn out better with them, plus less mushies to consume lol.
I still have some 15 dry grams left, but desire to eat them is low since I sort of expect more of the physical discomfort that I am finding to be not worth it at all...
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CoryInJapan
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: MindMeower]
#26979477 - 10/11/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dang thats unfortunate my friend. I wonder what the cause is as Ive never run across this experience before. I mean one time I had an 8th that barely did anything, and then months later an 8th that gaveme a religious experience. Perhaps the 4-ho-DMT was low and some other alkaloid was higher that caused the discomfort? Just a guess.
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MindMeower
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: CoryInJapan]
#26980798 - 10/12/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I am thinking now as I didn't get this sort of discomfort with my preovious grows, I had 8 grams, had a great time and didn't feel shit at any point...
New grow will be ready next month, maybe those mushrooms will fare better, though the spores are from the previous batch I have been eating so maybe the problem continues, but hope dies last lol.
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: MindMeower]
#26987351 - 10/15/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've barely done shrooms but every time I've eaten them I get a lot of nausea and a rough gut. Enough so that it affects the trip... so I'll be trying tea next time. In a recent trip (and posted) I too got hot and cold flashes, ranging from pulling off some clothes to putting them all back on and a bit more. I remember my head was quite warm for a while. I think the cold flash came from eating a jumbo Mr. Freeze quickly .
These effects were on APE fwiw. Nicely potent for sure. Have you combined mushrooms and cannabis? I, like others, find cannabis to be a synergist of mushrooms (i.e., more than additive). It was useful on weaker trips where I wanted more. In my most recent trip, the OEVs that definitely went up a good notch when I added some cannabis 2.5 hrs in (after ingestion).
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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MindMeower
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: alpha-omega]
#26987976 - 10/16/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nausea is completely eliminated by a bit of cannabis prior to igestion and it is something I use every trip. Small amount in the beginning, a bunch few hours in typically to boost the effects.
But the hot flushes are not just flushes for me, I get an actual fever, roughly 2ºC increase over my normal body temp. Ice cream and ice water really help, and I only really have to cool my head to feel ok too and sometimes I have eaten a bit too much ice cream and felt a bit cold too lol
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: MindMeower]
#26992325 - 10/19/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
MindMeower said: Nausea is completely eliminated by a bit of cannabis prior to igestion and it is something I use every trip. Small amount in the beginning, a bunch few hours in typically to boost the effects.
But the hot flushes are not just flushes for me, I get an actual fever, roughly 2ºC increase over my normal body temp. Ice cream and ice water really help, and I only really have to cool my head to feel ok too and sometimes I have eaten a bit too much ice cream and felt a bit cold too lol
Should try tripping in Northern countries next time then! No ice-cream needed
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Re: Trip that turned out wrong [Re: SideNote]
#26993033 - 10/19/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It already snowed this morning lol
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