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OfflineNemo98
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Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT
    #26972924 - 10/06/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Between salvia and 5-MeO DMT which do you feel was more intense, bizarre and uncomfortable?


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    #26973082 - 10/07/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26974440 - 10/07/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There totally different - 5meoDMT is really nothing until you take enough to white out.  Salvia you can fully breakthrough OBE and still remember and be aware of what's happening.  As well it offers lots of visuals before  breakthrough unlike 5meodomt.

I don't think 5meodmt is good unless its mixed with DMT at like a 90:10 or 95:5 ratio DMt/5meodmt.  Or if you have the legit dried toad venom that would be good for a white out.  It's gnarly shit.  I puked while totally whited out, that can be really dangerous alone if I was on my back.  So 5meo is nothing to be fucked with lightly, where salvia is.


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26974628 - 10/07/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Im having a bit of trouble with salvia I have chewed dried leaves from a few places which didn't work but I have tried extracts 5x threw 30x from various people and no matter the extract i use its always very quick, intense no visuals and I can barely remember anything except how uncomfortable it was. If i just keep trying will I eventually be able to experience something different or is this just how my brain will react to it?


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Nemo98] * 1
    #26974822 - 10/08/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Many salvia trips are nightmarish with folks saying: "never again", a few folks really like it, and some say it should never be smoked, only quided.

As Typewritermonkey says: "5meo is nothing to be fucked with lightly,".

Both are some of the strongest Rx there are, & sitters are suggested.

Like DMT both have a relatively brief duration. But if a salvia trip  is one that takes one to hell it sure won't feel brief.

In either case, these substances, are not party drugs, and caution suggests doing more research before using them.

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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: laughingdog]
    #26974909 - 10/08/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia is more bizarre and uncomfortable and 5 meo is more intense


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: acidgoofy]
    #26975029 - 10/08/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have had wonderful experiences with both. I feel Salvia is much more unforgiving but can be visually and intuitively rewarding if of course the substance is respected properly. 5 meo is outwardly expansive and just as visually rewarding, much more forgiving throughout . With both experiences I enjoy and appreciate the short length of both. 5 meo though makes me realize how long time can feel..like salvia doesn’t feel like forever...but 5 meo can feel like a good while, but yet afterwards your just like “holy shit that was only 12 minutes“?


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Hippieman420]
    #26976031 - 10/08/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thing is with salvia, one doesen't know where he has gone. So it's not really easy or possible to form a detached appreciation of what is occuring nor let go and surrender to it in the knowledge that it will all soon pass as with a normal psychedelic experience. Its reality is reality for however long it lasts.

For those few timeless moments (and it is very brief) it is all there is, and all there ever was or has been. All there ever will be.

How does one surrender to an eternity of being some insignficant part of some industrial machine? 

I have to say, unlike DMT, salvia for me wasn't visual in the manner depicted in that artwork above. I mean it was very visonary (invloving industrial machines and conveyorbelts etc) and utterly oblitetated my ego taking me off to a different world. But it all took place not from the perspective of myself watching all the crazy things going on around me, but rather from myself actually being those crazy things. I wouldn't see things I would be things if that makes sense.

But there was just nothing beautiful or wonderous about those souless industrial wastelands of horrific human insignificance that it allowed me a glimpse into. It was more like a Lovecraftian vision of hell, minus the kind of impossible alien creatures that one can experience through DMT.

Thats how salvia makes me feel and DMT to be honest.

That they genuinely are portals into other Lovecraftian dimensions of the kind we read about in fantasy/horror novels, with the only difference being that the creatures that inhabit these metaphysical realities are so far beyond anything that we can conceive or could be expressed with the written word.


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: wolf8312]
    #26979451 - 10/11/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is my favorite explanation of salvia I have come across.


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Nemo98]
    #26979465 - 10/11/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:

indeed some very good points by wolf8312

"Its reality is reality for however long it lasts.

For those few timeless moments (and it is very brief) it is all there is, and all there ever was or has been. All there ever will be.

How does one surrender to an eternity of being some insignficant part of some industrial machine?  "


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: wolf8312]
    #26980168 - 10/11/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
Thing is with salvia, one doesen't know where he has gone. So it's not really easy or possible to form a detached appreciation of what is occuring nor let go and surrender to it in the knowledge that it will all soon pass as with a normal psychedelic experience. Its reality is reality for however long it lasts.

For those few timeless moments (and it is very brief) it is all there is, and all there ever was or has been. All there ever will be.

How does one surrender to an eternity of being some insignficant part of some industrial machine? 

I have to say, unlike DMT, salvia for me wasn't visual in the manner depicted in that artwork above. I mean it was very visonary (invloving industrial machines and conveyorbelts etc) and utterly oblitetated my ego taking me off to a different world. But it all took place not from the perspective of myself watching all the crazy things going on around me, but rather from myself actually being those crazy things. I wouldn't see things I would be things if that makes sense.

But there was just nothing beautiful or wonderous about those souless industrial wastelands of horrific human insignificance that it allowed me a glimpse into. It was more like a Lovecraftian vision of hell, minus the kind of impossible alien creatures that one can experience through DMT.

Thats how salvia makes me feel and DMT to be honest.

That they genuinely are portals into other Lovecraftian dimensions of the kind we read about in fantasy/horror novels, with the only difference being that the creatures that inhabit these metaphysical realities are so far beyond anything that we can conceive or could be expressed with the written word.





Damn dude, that's a solid fucking rundown on salvia.  Really solid.  And maybe that's what it has to teach us.. salvia definitely offers lessons but of a wildly different type then psychedelics (and makes sense because its a disso).  I mean my salvia breakthroughs were reality as it was, but I completely remember them.


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Re: Salvia vs 5-MeO DMT [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26980478 - 10/11/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

5MEO is the most fucked up shit ever
salvias just weird


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