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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #26972383 - 10/06/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The DOW swung like 600 points over a tweet announcing no second stimulus until after the election. Trump is trying to lose.




Did he say suggest there will only be a second stimulus if he wins? I could totally see him completely checking out if he loses, like “why should I sign this. Not my problem”


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26972384 - 10/06/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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He just gets a piece of paper and signs it whether it is blank or not.



Source, or make believe?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
    #26972411 - 10/06/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Metoo said: motorcades speeding around, agents exposed to hazards in the line of duty. Many of these events have only PR value but we believe that it is ok to expose some people to some risk to make the nation feel better




While I agree with the sentiment, those agents in the car should have been wearing googles and P100 masks. Unnecessary risk of others well being is reckless and unbecoming in a leader.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon]
    #26972431 - 10/06/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They don’t let people visit their relatives dying of covid because there is a risk. The same kind of risk the people around trump are being forced to take. It’s not just about these individuals. Every infected person is a potential source of spread. Kellyanne Conway got her family Infected. DC cases are spiking and it’s almost certainly due to irresponsible behavior at the White House. 30 known cases are now directly related to the White House, which is likely the worst spreading event in the city during the pandemic.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26972439 - 10/06/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

A least he doesn't play favorites, he went to a fundraiser a put a bunch of rich chumps at risk.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26972449 - 10/06/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is a picture showing an act of ultimate recklessness:



A single stray Luftwaffe plane could have created carnage here - killing the leader of the nation in a time of emergency as well as scores of innocent bystanders. For God's sake - Churchill is even leaning out of the car, exposing himself to any Nazi sleepers closeted in the UK with a Parabellum hand gun.

Maybe that is why he is remembered as a great leader?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972455 - 10/06/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What does Churchill have to do with anything we're talking about?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972462 - 10/06/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It would have been WAY safer for Churchill to have stayed in a bunker. If he absolutely had to come out he should have travelled in a tank - their Matildas were shit compared to Panthers but would have at least offered some protection


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972466 - 10/06/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How is that relevant to this thread?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26972468 - 10/06/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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What does Churchill have to do with anything we're talking about?



Just comparing styles of leadership in war-time or war-like circumstances.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972469 - 10/06/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The U.S. is certainly at war, but how does Trump getting covid and then downplaying it resemble Churchill?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26972471 - 10/06/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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It would have been WAY safer for Churchill to have stayed in a bunker. If he absolutely had to come out he should have travelled in a tank - their Matildas were shit compared to Panthers but would have at least offered some protection



Nice try bombs aren't contagious and it's not close to comparable


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26972475 - 10/06/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The U.S. is certainly at war, but how does Trump getting covid and then downplaying it resemble Churchill?



It is a matter of opinion. I am simply showing that both leaders employed PR stunts which endangered both themselves and others, for a PR effect.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972478 - 10/06/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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This is a picture showing an act of ultimate recklessness:



A single stray Luftwaffe plane could have created carnage here - killing the leader of the nation in a time of emergency as well as scores of innocent bystanders. For God's sake - Churchill is even leaning out of the car, exposing himself to any Nazi sleepers closeted in the UK with a Parabellum hand gun.

Maybe that is why he is remembered as a great leader?



Although Churchill was known for his rash and cavalier additude when it came to war often treating as a great adventure and exposing himself to danger. They triangulated all the incoming air raids and knew when and where they were coming.  Hence the whole Coventry blitz controversy. Which also as been said by Churchill closest that he didn't receive the telegram warning of the raid in time rather than choosing actually let the town be destroyed.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26972479 - 10/06/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Aka he wasn't just fucking dangerously stupid like trump


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972486 - 10/06/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The U.S. is certainly at war, but how does Trump getting covid and then downplaying it resemble Churchill?



It is a matter of opinion. I am simply showing that both leaders employed PR stunts which endangered both themselves and others, for a PR effect.



Churchill was trying to win a war.  Trump is trying to win an election.  You don't see the difference between the two?  Trump's covid has literally nothing to do with the war that he's promised to end but still hasn't gotten around to ending.  He doesn't need PR to end the war.  He just needs to pick up the phone and give an order.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26972492 - 10/06/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Nice try bombs aren't contagious and it's not close to comparable



They are in a sense that if one drops on you the guy standing next to you will also be affected


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
    #26972496 - 10/06/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That's not what contagious means.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26972516 - 10/06/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Churchill was trying to win a war.  Trump is trying to win an election.  You don't see the difference between the two? 




I see many differences between the two but that does not mean that there cannot be similarities. In fact I have pointed one out - both Churchill and Trump, in a situation of nation emergency, did a public parade thing which was reckless in terms of rational analysis, exposing themselves and others to avoidable dangers. Can you see the similarity between the two - in this narrow sense?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 3
    #26972525 - 10/06/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Not to scale though, one was a world war, the other an ego fix


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