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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972261 - 10/06/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nah. It's been proven time and again.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972284 - 10/06/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I reject your absurd claim that this is a first of a kind election.



It's the first time New Jersey is trying unsolicited mail in ballots.  Not saying that will cause a problem, just pointing out that this IS a first of kind election there.




Only registered voters are getting them. They aren’t unsolicited.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972342 - 10/06/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know that.  My point is that this IS a first of a kind for New Jersey.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972345 - 10/06/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Every election is a first of its kind if you're going to play semantic games.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972364 - 10/06/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

When I said "this IS a first of a kind for New Jersey", I think it was clear that by "this" I meant sending mail-in ballots to all registered voters.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972368 - 10/06/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I got my ballot today. Gonna drop off at the local drop box after dinner.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972372 - 10/06/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Every election has firsts. Your argument is absurd


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972382 - 10/06/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Every election has firsts.



Obviously.

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Your argument is absurd



What's absurd about saying this is the first time they've sent mail in ballots to all registered voters?


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: koods] * 1
    #26972388 - 10/06/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The entire PD has become tired and boring with the constant back and forth about make believe and semantics arguments.  Pretty much just a whine fest with the ultimate goal being to prove who is right and who meant what when stating xyz as opposed to actually discussing politics.  IDK, maybe it’s always been thus.  :shrug:

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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972400 - 10/06/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Because it's an inconsequential detail. The only reason you think it's important is because trump says it's important,  and you'll defend anything trump says.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972561 - 10/06/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No, I'm not defending what Trump says.  I was defending birdeatingspider's point:

birdeatingspider said:  Do you have unfaltering faith in your government, or are you at all suspicious of a first of its kind election, already showing potential for exploitation.
Enlil said:  I reject your absurd claim that this is a first of a kind election.
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:  It's the first time New Jersey is trying unsolicited mail in ballots.  Not saying that will cause a problem, just pointing out that this IS a first of kind election there.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972568 - 10/06/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972582 - 10/06/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I see the answer is "unfaltering faith in your government".  Fair enough.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26972589 - 10/06/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

False dichotomy/strawman. Straight out of the Russian troll farm playbook.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972601 - 10/06/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ooh, "straight out of the Russian troll farm playbook".  Good one!

I think Enlil is having a melt down.  He's gone from a man of logic to a man of insults.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972610 - 10/06/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am insulting your argument.  Not you.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972648 - 10/06/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok.  I guess I'm not as familiar with the Russian Troll Farm playbook as you seem to be.

He said it was "a first of its kind election"
I said "It's the first time New Jersey is trying unsolicited mail in ballots.  Not saying that will cause a problem, just pointing out that this IS a first of kind election there"
You then said "Every election has firsts. Your argument is absurd"

I still don't get it, but whatever.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972662 - 10/06/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Every election has some element that is unique and "first of its kind."  Only if it is significantly different from other elections can it be fairly called "first of its kind election."  That ballots were mailed out instead of handed out is an insignificant detail.

And yes...I am familiar with the troll farm tactics.  It's fascinating stuff.  Russian's have been doing it for awhile, so they have really honed the craft.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972669 - 10/06/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Every election has some element that is unique and "first of its kind."  Only if it is significantly different from other elections can it be fairly called "first of its kind election."  That ballots were mailed out instead of handed out is an insignificant detail.



Probably.

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And yes...I am familiar with the troll farm tactics.  It's fascinating stuff.  Russian's have been doing it for awhile, so they have really honed the craft.



You mean putting out click bait ads?


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972671 - 10/06/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No.  There is a whole lot more to it than that.  They would make fake organizations and media companies to create fake stories that they could then link to using fake personas on social media.  They'd argue both sides of the issue, too.  Some of it was quite brilliant.


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