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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971699 - 10/06/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I received my mail in ballot yesterday. Know who else did? My deceased grandmother.



That's one ballot that won't count.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26971711 - 10/06/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How do you know that. Dead might score double. Please help me understand.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971719 - 10/06/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Social Security keeps records of when people die.  Ballots are cross-referenced with social security before they are counted.  Not that it even matters in your state.  NJ's electoral votes are going to Biden no matter what.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26971735 - 10/06/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I am aware this is the official narrative.

Do you have unfaltering faith in your government, or are you at all suspicious of a first of its kind election, already showing potential for exploitation.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971743 - 10/06/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I reject your absurd claim that this is a first of a kind election.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26971759 - 10/06/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

While states such as WA and OR have used mail-in ballots historically, this will be the first election where more voters (blue) will be mailing in their vote verses (red) in person polling.

This election marks the shift in how this country plans to transition going forward. It's really not absurd, quite the contrary.. How do you not see this.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971763 - 10/06/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Who is going to vote by mail/in person isn't something that the government sets up.  People will make their individual choices.  Mail in voting has been around a long, long time. 

What, exactly, is your concern about it?


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26971786 - 10/06/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Trump telling people not to let covid rule their life, to physically go to the polls and watch for scandal. Republicans are notably less likely to take the pandemic with respect, instead branding it hysteria.

On the other hand, Democrats notoriously support shut downs and erring on side of caution.

Never said the government is puppeteering the election, but covid is.. Who is yanking the strings when it comes to covid?
As I said last night, this virus is no longer about states of health, but politics.

Even if all of this swings the vote favorably, it still leaves me feeling quite insecure about the validity and ABILITY for the gov to not fuck it up.
There is even more room for corruption.

This country's statistics vary depending on what side of the fence you are on. So why would the election be any different.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971794 - 10/06/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see anything notorious about that.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26971813 - 10/06/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Then I'm sorry, but you are blind.

Ya' know what I was told when I called the city clerk this morning?
"Thank you for updating our records. This is the first election since your grandmother passed away, and it's simply a clerical issue."


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26971828 - 10/06/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Substantial voting fraud is a myth. Voter suppression is very real.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26971833 - 10/06/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm blind for not seeing shutdowns as notorious?


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26971847 - 10/06/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

For not seeing that Democrats typically favor shut downs to openings, masks to bare face, and in general, respect the virus more than Republicans.

I do not speak in absolutes, but it's an undeniable trend.

Brian, how do you feel assured? I'm requesting anything to put my mind at ease here.
Suppose I got a newb when I called, I made that call for relief, but am even more concerned, now.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26971848 - 10/06/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I reject your absurd claim that this is a first of a kind election.



It's the first time New Jersey is trying unsolicited mail in ballots.  Not saying that will cause a problem, just pointing out that this IS a first of kind election there.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972089 - 10/06/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Registering to vote is soliciting a ballot.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972104 - 10/06/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it's soliciting "a ballot".  No it's not specifically soliciting a mail-in ballot.

I'm not opposed to sending out mail-in ballots for everyone because of coronavirus, but mail-in ballots weren't specifically requested by all the voters.

Your semantics games are... silly.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972111 - 10/06/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Walk in ballots weren't either. You're the one playing semantics.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972124 - 10/06/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This is a silly game.  :shake:


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26972133 - 10/06/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yup. You make a distinction without a difference. Any little word game you can play to legitimize trumps stupidity. It's so predictable at this point.


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Re: 1000+ Vote by mail Ballots from 2018 found in a dumpster at my local landfill [Re: Enlil]
    #26972197 - 10/06/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Trump is a horrible president.  I'm getting tired of you lying about me over and over again to justify other people's make believe.

Just because I correct people about Trump doesn't mean I'm trying to "legitimize trumps stupidity".

I'm still waiting for you to back up your statement that I "go out of your way to make believe shit about them.  Assad, Putin, Trump."

I think that's another lie from you, but prove me wrong.


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