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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: budmanman]
    #26972788 - 10/06/20 09:11 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Other than trade wars.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil] * 3
    #26972882 - 10/06/20 10:28 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

How about I copy and paste off the internet?

1. Anita Hill Hearings
When Christine Blasey Ford testified in front of Congress about Brett Kavanaugh’s attempted sexual assault, it depressingly mirrored another testimony like this from Anita Hill about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s sexual harassment in 1994—when Joe Biden and Orrin Hatch oversaw a disastrous testimony that they structured. Biden called no independent experts and forced Hill to defend herself alone against an avalanche of immensely powerful white men, and Joe Biden has since apologized and said he wished he would have done more. This is an ongoing theme with Uncle Joe, where he royally screwed up in the past, defended himself in the past, and then apologized in a more tolerant future that his political instincts are clearly not geared towards.

2. 1994 Crime Bill
In 2016, Joe Biden defended his crime bill that is as responsible for mass incarceration as any other piece of legislation passed in the last forty years, saying:

”I’m not ashamed of [the Crime bill] at all. As a matter of fact, I drafted the bill. We talk about this in terms mostly of ‘black lives matter.’ Black lives really do matter, but the problem is institutional racism in America. That’s the overarching problem that still exists.”

His speech from 1993 defending the bill is one of the more fascist things you will hear out of a modern Democrat.

this Biden clip from 1993 is…outright fascist. 10X worse than Clinton's "super predator" line (via @KFILE) https://t.co/k8d0Icq50mpic.twitter.com/77aDBUKznP

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) March 7, 2019
This is the legacy of the Biden Crime Bill.

3. Had to drop out of the 1988 presidential race for plagiarism
He got caught plagiarizing in law school at Syracuse, and admitted to it. He failed, but was allowed to retake the class. Biden ultimately had to drop out of the 1988 race after it became clear that this didn’t stop in law school, as he stole excerpts of speeches from John F. Kennedy and other famous politicians.


A big chunk of Biden’s brand is wrapped up in being authentic, but his 1988 run was anything but.

4. Reportedly used his son’s death for his own political gain in 2016
Per Politico:

Joe Biden has been making his 2016 deliberations all about his late son since August.

Aug. 1, to be exact — the day renowned Hillary Clinton-critic Maureen Dowd published a column that marked a turning point in the presidential speculation.

According to multiple sources, it was Biden himself who talked to her, painting a tragic portrait of a dying son, Beau’s face partially paralyzed, sitting his father down and trying to make him promise to run for president because “the White House should not revert to the Clintons and that the country would be better off with Biden values.”



But in truth, Biden had effectively placed an ad in The New York Times, asking them to call.

5. He voted to gut welfare
Biden was a 1990s Democrat through and through, as he supported all of Bill Clinton’s most conservative policies, like welfare “reform” that ultimately failed, as Jordan Weismann described in Slate:

The Urban Institute’s Pamela Loprest and Sheila Zedlewski found that during the early postreform era, about one-third of single parents were jobless soon after leaving welfare. Those who did find work often earned no more than what they lost in benefits; studies have concluded that anywhere from 42 to 74 percent of those who exited the program remained poor. Meanwhile, states began enrolling fewer new families in welfare. As the rolls shrank, a new generation of so-called disconnected mothers emerged: single parents who weren’t working, in school, or receiving welfare to support themselves or their children. According to Loprest, the number of these women rose from 800,000 in 1996 to 1.2 million in 2008.

In keeping with that trend, researchers have also found a gradual uptick in what economists call deep or extreme poverty. Johns Hopkins’ Edin and Luke Shaefer, now of the University of Michigan, reported that the number of American households with children living on less than $2 in cash per person each day grew 159 percent, from about 636,000 in 1996 to 1.65 million in 2011. Even if you treat the value of food stamps as cash, the number rose some 80 percent, to 857,000. In their book $2.00 a Day, Edin and Shaefer describe women and children living on the fringes of society, relying on homeless shelters and selling their own plasma to get by. “Some of those people are ending up in very frightening conditions that don’t even look like America,” Edin tells me.

6. He gave Obama a classic racist backhand compliment
Before he became Barack Obama’s running mate, he took a shot at America’s soon-to-be first black president that was just dripping in racism. Per Biden:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

Biden went on The Daily Show and apologized for using the word “clean,” saying he should have opted for the word “fresh.” He did not address the “articulate” part of his statement, which is a classic racist backhanded compliment that typically conveys a sense of surprise that a black person can speak clearly and with gravitas.


7. Voted to overturn Glass-Steagall
Glass-Steagall was one of the first things that we did in the wake of the Great Depression, as it created a firewall between investment banking and FDIC-insured deposits, meaning that Wall Street could not gamble with your savings. It is one of the central reasons why so many Wall Street banks are too big to fail. Joe Biden, Bill Clinton and the rest of powerful Democrats in 1999 changed all that, to the dismay of the longest tenured congressman in U.S. history, the late John Dingell, who called our coming crises the night of Biden’s vote in 1999:

I think we ought to look at what we are doing here tonight. We are passing a bill which is going to have very little consideration, written in the dark of night, without any real awareness on the part of most of what it contains.

I just want to remind my colleagues about what happened the last time the Committee on Banking brought a bill on the floor which deregulated the savings and loans. It wound up imposing upon the taxpayers of this Nation about a $500 billion liability …

Having said that, what we are creating now is a group of institutions which are too big to fail. Not only are they going to be big banks, but they are going to be big everything, because they are going to be in securities and insurance, in issuance of stocks and bonds and underwriting, and they are also going to be in banks.

And under this legislation, the whole of the regulatory structure is so obfuscated and so confused that liability in one area is going to fall over into liability in the next. Taxpayers are going to be called upon to cure the failures we are creating tonight, and it is going to cost a lot of money, and it is coming. Just be prepared for those events.

Again, when confronted in the future with the failure of his policies, all Biden could do is apologize.

8. Eulogized one of America’s most famed racists
Perhaps there is no better summation of Joe Biden’s Senate career than the fact that America’s most famed 20th century congressional racist asked him to speak at his funeral. Strom Thurmond staged the longest filibuster in American history, speaking for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the 1957 Civil Rights Act. During his run for presidency in 1948, Governor Thurmond said “There’s not enough troops in the army, to force the southern people to break down segregation and admit the n******* race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches.” When confronted with this quote in 1988 (by the time Biden claimed Thurmond had changed into a more tolerant man), Thurmond responded with “I was just trying to protect the rights of the states and the rights of the people. Some in the news media tried to make it a race fight, but it was not that.”


9. Opposed school integration in the 1970s
One big reason why Biden and Thurmond were so close was their joint efforts to oppose integrating schools in the 1970s. Per Politico:

Ed Brooke, a Massachusetts Republican, was the first black senator ever to be popularly elected; Joe Biden was a freshman Democratic senator from Delaware. By 1975, both had compiled liberal voting records. But that year, Biden sided with conservatives and sponsored a major anti-busing amendment. The fierce debate that followed not only fractured the Senate’s bloc of liberals, it also signified a more wide-ranging political phenomenon: As white voters around the country—especially in the North—objected to sweeping desegregation plans then coming into practice, liberal leaders retreated from robust integration policies.

Biden was at the forefront of this retreat: He had expressed support for integration and—more specifically—busing during his Senate campaign in 1972, but once elected, he discovered just how bitterly his white constituents opposed the method. In 1973 and 1974, Biden began voting for many of the Senate’s anti-busing bills, claiming that he favored school desegregation, but just objected to “forced busing.”

“Forced busing” was a phrase that Thurmond leaned on heavily to oppose integrating schools, and when Biden embraced Thurmond’s politics on this issue, he also embraced his rhetoric.
10. Biden voted for the Iraq War
The biggest quagmire of millennials’ lifetimes—our Vietnam, sans the draft—was aided along by Senator Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton lost in 2008 because of this vote, while Barack Obama made hay off his opposition to an immoral and illegal war. Joe Biden’s entire political career is proof that he has been behind the times every single step of the way, and there is no reason to believe that 2020 will be any different.




https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: imachavel]
    #26972903 - 10/06/20 10:44 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

While we are it, pre presidency sins:





The greatest scoop of my journalism career started at a poker table with a tip from an agitated banker.

It was a Thursday night in late May 1990. I was a 32-year-old Wall Street Journal reporter who had written dozens of articles about Donald J. Trump’s business affairs. I was closing in on the biggest one of all — Mr. Trump was on the brink of financial ruin. He was quietly trying to unload his assets. His Atlantic City casinos were underperforming, and prices for his casino bonds were plummeting, suggesting that he would have trouble making interest payments.

“Donald Trump is driving 100 miles per hour toward a brick wall, and he has no brakes,” the banker told me. “He is meeting with all the banks right now.”

The next day, I called sources at the four banks I knew had large Trump exposures. The first three calls yielded “no comment,” but the fourth hit pay dirt, and I was invited to visit the bank late that afternoon.

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Behind a large mahogany desk sat the bank’s chief lending officer. He explained that all of the banks would have to agree to a huge restructuring of Mr. Trump’s loans or Mr. Trump would have to declare personal bankruptcy. Unknown to the banks when each had lent him money, Mr. Trump ended up personally guaranteeing a staggering $830 million of loans, which was reckless of him, but even more so for the banks.

In a front-page Wall Street Journal article on June 4, 1990, I wrote: “Donald J. Trump’s cash shortage has become critical. The developer is now in intense negotiations with his main bank creditors that could force him to give up big chunks of his empire.” One banker said, “He will have to trim the fat; get rid of the boat, the mansions, the helicopter.”

Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more fantastic than Trump the moneymaker, the New York tycoon who has enjoyed a remarkably successful business career. In reality, Mr. Trump was a walking disaster as a businessman for much of his life. This is not just my opinion. Warren Buffett said as much this past week.

Between 1985 and 1991, working mainly for The Daily News and The Wall Street Journal, I covered Mr. Trump’s travails and interviewed him dozens of times. On several occasions he threatened to sue me, though he never did. But he didn’t hide his opinion of me. In “Trump: The Art of the Comeback,” his 1997 book, he wrote: “Of all the writers who have written about me, probably none has been more vicious than Neil Barsky of The Wall Street Journal.”

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At the time, he was a glamorous New York City personality and an Olympic-level self-promoter who had persuaded banks and bondholders to extend him billions of dollars of credit to buy everything from a yacht to the Plaza Hotel to the Eastern Air Lines Shuttle.

He was also a skilled negotiator with an almost supernatural ability to pinpoint and attack his adversaries’ vulnerabilities, as several of his Republican primary opponents discovered. Since his financial emergency in the 1990s, he appears to have sworn off taking on large amounts of debt, and instead has used his brand to collect fees on real estate and other projects. This has greatly limited his downside risk, but has also capped the amount he can earn, since he often does not own the underlying equity on the projects that bear his name.

Since leaving journalism in 1993, I have been a Wall Street real estate analyst and a hedge fund manager. I have studied how businesses thrive and why they fail. Mr. Trump’s political rise has been maddening for me to watch, and I sometimes feel like the character played by Kevin Bacon in the movie “Diner” who screams the right answers to a TV quiz show as the contestants get them wrong.

“The issue isn’t that he’s crass,” I want to shout. “It’s that he’s a bad businessman!”

Hanging on my office wall is a letter written on gold-leaf stationery, dated March 22, 1990. “Dear Neil,” it reads. “From your first incorrect story on Merv Griffin — to your present Wall Street Journal article, you are a disgrace to your profession! Sincerely, Donald J. Trump.” (Mr. Griffin was a Trump rival.)

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The article I had just written took a skeptical look at the ability of Mr. Trump’s newly opened Trump Taj Mahal Atlantic City casino to make the interest payments on its bonds. I quoted an analyst saying, “Once the cold winds blow from October to February, it won’t make it.” Mr. Trump complained to the man’s employer. Within days, the analyst was fired. But his prediction would prove prescient.

At 70, Mr. Trump is 12 years older than I am. As I watched his career soar in the 1980s and the inordinate amount of press attention he attracted, I was struck by two things: His list of real estate accomplishments were minuscule compared with those of more successful New York developers who garnered far less publicity, and he lied a lot. He made up the prices he was getting for his condominiums, the value of bids he had turned down for various properties and his prospects for luring corporate tenants to his buildings.

And, of course, he lied about his wealth.

Then and now, we in the media helped enable the Trump myth. He made great copy. Early on, I noticed that any article I wrote about him — whether for the tabloid Daily News or the serious Wall Street Journal — would get great play. This invariably led me and others to dig deeper for Trump news.

Oddly, he seemed less interested in making money than in creating the perception that he was wealthy. This is why, I believe, he continually floated plans to build the world’s tallest building. People would notice. His feuds with Forbes magazine over his net worth were legion.

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Once, in April 1990, as I was trying to glean the extent of his financial distress, he produced as evidence of his financial strength a letter from an accounting firm saying he had close to $400 million in cash and cash equivalents. The letter did not include liabilities, however, and less than two months later, Mr. Trump was negotiating a lifeline with his bankers.

Ultimately, the banks decided Mr. Trump was “too big to fail,” and extended further credit. When the dust settled, he retained some important assets, like Trump Tower, and gave up control of others, including the Eastern Air Lines Shuttle. Under bankers’ orders, he altered his high-spending lifestyle.

More than a year has passed since Mr. Trump announced his candidacy, and the media has begun to chip away at his checkered business record. Still, the image of the self-made billionaire remains. He has yet to release his tax returns. Amazingly, we still don’t know exactly how much he inherited from his father’s real estate empire, valued at $250 million to $300 million when his father died in 1999, and probably worth multiples of that today.

This disconnect between the public’s perception of Mr. Trump as a self-made mogul and the reality of his being a rich kid who lost other people’s money and made far less for himself than he claims is still his Achilles’ heel.

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Things did not end well between us. One day in early 1991, one of Mr. Trump’s senior executives, Nick Ribis, invited me to a boxing match that his boss was sponsoring in Atlantic City. I declined at first, but my editor encouraged me to go. Then, in an act of bad judgment, I accepted free tickets for my brother and father.

Weeks later, after I wrote a tough article about Mr. Trump’s finances, his public relations representative called The New York Post’s Page Six and said, as I was told later by a senior Post reporter, “How would you like to destroy the career of a Wall Street Journal reporter?” The story that resulted made a series of wild and bogus accusations, saying I had extorted the tickets, asked for a suite at the Taj, and that out of anger that I hadn’t received more favors, had written negative articles about him.

My editors stood by me, but they and I agreed that I would stop covering him. By then Donald Trump had stopped being front-page news, but I had put my paper in a difficult position, and the episode stung.

Did he set me up? Did I set myself up? Several years later, I ran into a Trump executive who offered an explanation. A few months before the boxing match, I had reported that as Mr. Trump faced a cash shortfall, his father had bought $3.5 million worth of casino chips to help his son make an interest payment on the casino’s bonds. Mr. Trump was subsequently fined $30,000 by New Jersey’s gambling regulators for not reporting what was essentially a loan from his father. He was livid, the executive told me, and had vowed revenge. As Mr. Trump himself wrote in “The Art of the Comeback,” he told Nick Ribis to give me the tickets, then added, “but the next time he writes anything I’m going to blast him like he never got blasted before.”

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I last met with Donald Trump in 2007, by which point I had been managing a hedge fund for a decade. He was a reality television star, and his financial troubles were behind him. I was sponsoring a golf tournament at his club in Westchester County to raise money for a foundation that supported a Miami youth center.

Concerned that we might bump into each other, I called to see if he might want to meet first, and he invited me to his Fifth Avenue office. He couldn’t have been nicer. He boasted about a recent golf club purchase and said he was “bigger than ever.” He complimented me on my decision to go into finance. I asked him for a major donation for the youth center, and soon the conversation turned to our past squabbles.

“You hit me, then I hit you,” he said, with the wistful air of a nostalgic boxer. “As far as I’m concerned, we’re even.”

A week later, someone at the foundation told me it had received a check for $5,000.



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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26972964 - 10/06/20 11:48 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

1. He will lose to Trump
2. He will lose to Trump
3. He will lose to Trump
4. He will lose to Trump
5. He will lose to Trump
6. He will lose to Trump
7. He will lose to Trump
8. He will lose to Trump
9. He will lose to Trump
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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973044 - 10/07/20 01:05 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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He hasn't ended the war like he promised.




My son's aunt (Amanda) is in the military (helicopter mechanic) and has been to Afghanistan many times over the years. She called last Sunday and told us everyone is working hard packing everything up and the troops are excited about coming home. For good.

But don't hold your breath waiting to hear this type of information on the news.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973259 - 10/07/20 07:29 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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He promised to end the war. He hasn't. That's enough for him to deserve a horrible death, IMO.



Again you people don't have a fucking clue about what goes on in the world. We have allies we have to go to bat for. Trump lit let them get slaughtered by isis. These people fight hard for us and we left them alone surrounded by wolves with thier ass hanging out. Whos fucking side are u people on I swear to fucking God some of u are russian trolls or just so clueless and dumb its fucking dangerous. Learn about history and geopolitics be for you talk shit about not ending a war. This shit isn't a joke. We've seen it 1000 times if America isn't there to prop things up our enemies just come in and steam roll everyone and slaughter  rape and cut thier heads off shit desends into chaos and festers until we have an even more real serious problem on our hands. Which is why we needed a serious troop surge in Iraq and also shouldn't have been doing this light foot print bullshit. Now we have isis. We should have never been in that war to begin with but once u start the war u cant try to be nice about it. I tell you one thing I never ever ever would have left my Kurdish allies to fend for themselves against isis and just simply give up after fighting so hard like trump did. Trump once again rolled over for Russia gave it up to isis.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973339 - 10/07/20 09:07 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

I just thought of this. Trump pulling out on isis is lit like if biden didn't send nato bombs and commandos to the balkins threw his hands up and was like welp just let them all get genocided and let russia take control. Letting our enemies just have it is great cuz were putting America first by putting our sworn enemies first...first :flowstone:


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973346 - 10/07/20 09:10 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

And they go why are people going russia russia russia the guys not a ruskie stoolie he makes the libtards panties bunch up its great derrp. Gee I wonder fucking why retard.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.html


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 4
    #26973399 - 10/07/20 10:02 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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He hasn't ended the war like he promised.




My son's aunt (Amanda) is in the military (helicopter mechanic) and has been to Afghanistan many times over the years. She called last Sunday and told us everyone is working hard packing everything up and the troops are excited about coming home. For good.

But don't hold your breath waiting to hear this type of information on the news.



It's been 3.75 years, and troop levels went from 8,500 to 14,000 during Trump's tenure.  Now, he's dropping it to 4,500 or something. That's not ending the war. 

He could literally end the war today.  He could have ended it in February of 2017.  He didn't.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973432 - 10/07/20 10:32 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)



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    #26973448 - 10/07/20 10:40 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

It would end it for America.  All Trump has to do is stand down the soldiers, and America is no longer at war.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973456 - 10/07/20 10:45 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

No it wouldn't isis is fucking hell bent on destroying America and everything that doesn't fit into there insane caliphate jihad.  Just because u let them fester doesn't "end it for america" it just makes us look weak leaves our allies out to dryl and let's iran and russia take the wheel. I mean who's side are you on in this?  How stupid are you people?


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26973458 - 10/07/20 10:46 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Not to mention all the war crimes and genocide theyre doing to bibity Bobbity brown people u clearly don't give a fuck what happens to.


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    #26973469 - 10/07/20 10:53 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Side?  Why would I be on a side?  American aggression in the middle east doesn't solve the problem that we're hated there.  You think that killing people is going to make them like us more?  Every dude we kill creates more people who grow up hating America. 

I get it...you like war.  You like killing muslims.  I don't.  I also don't like being the target of terrorism, which is the natural product of our wars in the middle east and Afghanistan.  Trump promised to end our involvement in the war and hasn't done jack shit to make that happen.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973478 - 10/07/20 11:01 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Again going back to we never should have gone to Iraq but since we did we should have killed them all even the childern.its also really nice to say yah we should handle everything diplomatically but in reality it doesn't work that easy. Maybe if these people would stop trying to constantly undermine a free and stable world we could all work towards building a global economy and human innovation instead this whole kill all non believers shit we've been doing for millenia. So yah we kinda still are at the we have to fight wars with these idiots phase. I really belive soon technology will make major war fucking stupid and pointless.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 3
    #26973483 - 10/07/20 11:06 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

You don't destroy isis with soldiers. Every time we kill an isis fighter, we create three more.

You destroy isis by removing the conditions that create isis. Fear. Hate. Poverty. Things that US airstrikes are great at creating.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Kryptos]
    #26973485 - 10/07/20 11:07 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Again yah its really nice to say we should just go over there and like give them money and schools and a helping hand. U dont think we fucking tried that before we started killing people?


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    #26973487 - 10/07/20 11:10 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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we should have killed them all even the childern.




That's simply not who we are.  It might be who you are, but most Americans are not in favor of genocide.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: imachavel]
    #26973489 - 10/07/20 11:11 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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While we are it, pre presidency sins:





The greatest scoop of my journalism career started at a poker table with a tip from an agitated banker.

It was a Thursday night in late May 1990. I was a 32-year-old Wall Street Journal reporter who had written dozens of articles about Donald J. Trump’s business affairs. I was closing in on the biggest one of all — Mr. Trump was on the brink of financial ruin. He was quietly trying to unload his assets. His Atlantic City casinos were underperforming, and prices for his casino bonds were plummeting, suggesting that he would have trouble making interest payments.

“Donald Trump is driving 100 miles per hour toward a brick wall, and he has no brakes,” the banker told me. “He is meeting with all the banks right now.”

The next day, I called sources at the four banks I knew had large Trump exposures. The first three calls yielded “no comment,” but the fourth hit pay dirt, and I was invited to visit the bank late that afternoon.

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Behind a large mahogany desk sat the bank’s chief lending officer. He explained that all of the banks would have to agree to a huge restructuring of Mr. Trump’s loans or Mr. Trump would have to declare personal bankruptcy. Unknown to the banks when each had lent him money, Mr. Trump ended up personally guaranteeing a staggering $830 million of loans, which was reckless of him, but even more so for the banks.

In a front-page Wall Street Journal article on June 4, 1990, I wrote: “Donald J. Trump’s cash shortage has become critical. The developer is now in intense negotiations with his main bank creditors that could force him to give up big chunks of his empire.” One banker said, “He will have to trim the fat; get rid of the boat, the mansions, the helicopter.”

Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more fantastic than Trump the moneymaker, the New York tycoon who has enjoyed a remarkably successful business career. In reality, Mr. Trump was a walking disaster as a businessman for much of his life. This is not just my opinion. Warren Buffett said as much this past week.

Between 1985 and 1991, working mainly for The Daily News and The Wall Street Journal, I covered Mr. Trump’s travails and interviewed him dozens of times. On several occasions he threatened to sue me, though he never did. But he didn’t hide his opinion of me. In “Trump: The Art of the Comeback,” his 1997 book, he wrote: “Of all the writers who have written about me, probably none has been more vicious than Neil Barsky of The Wall Street Journal.”

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At the time, he was a glamorous New York City personality and an Olympic-level self-promoter who had persuaded banks and bondholders to extend him billions of dollars of credit to buy everything from a yacht to the Plaza Hotel to the Eastern Air Lines Shuttle.

He was also a skilled negotiator with an almost supernatural ability to pinpoint and attack his adversaries’ vulnerabilities, as several of his Republican primary opponents discovered. Since his financial emergency in the 1990s, he appears to have sworn off taking on large amounts of debt, and instead has used his brand to collect fees on real estate and other projects. This has greatly limited his downside risk, but has also capped the amount he can earn, since he often does not own the underlying equity on the projects that bear his name.

Since leaving journalism in 1993, I have been a Wall Street real estate analyst and a hedge fund manager. I have studied how businesses thrive and why they fail. Mr. Trump’s political rise has been maddening for me to watch, and I sometimes feel like the character played by Kevin Bacon in the movie “Diner” who screams the right answers to a TV quiz show as the contestants get them wrong.

“The issue isn’t that he’s crass,” I want to shout. “It’s that he’s a bad businessman!”

Hanging on my office wall is a letter written on gold-leaf stationery, dated March 22, 1990. “Dear Neil,” it reads. “From your first incorrect story on Merv Griffin — to your present Wall Street Journal article, you are a disgrace to your profession! Sincerely, Donald J. Trump.” (Mr. Griffin was a Trump rival.)

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The article I had just written took a skeptical look at the ability of Mr. Trump’s newly opened Trump Taj Mahal Atlantic City casino to make the interest payments on its bonds. I quoted an analyst saying, “Once the cold winds blow from October to February, it won’t make it.” Mr. Trump complained to the man’s employer. Within days, the analyst was fired. But his prediction would prove prescient.

At 70, Mr. Trump is 12 years older than I am. As I watched his career soar in the 1980s and the inordinate amount of press attention he attracted, I was struck by two things: His list of real estate accomplishments were minuscule compared with those of more successful New York developers who garnered far less publicity, and he lied a lot. He made up the prices he was getting for his condominiums, the value of bids he had turned down for various properties and his prospects for luring corporate tenants to his buildings.

And, of course, he lied about his wealth.

Then and now, we in the media helped enable the Trump myth. He made great copy. Early on, I noticed that any article I wrote about him — whether for the tabloid Daily News or the serious Wall Street Journal — would get great play. This invariably led me and others to dig deeper for Trump news.

Oddly, he seemed less interested in making money than in creating the perception that he was wealthy. This is why, I believe, he continually floated plans to build the world’s tallest building. People would notice. His feuds with Forbes magazine over his net worth were legion.

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Once, in April 1990, as I was trying to glean the extent of his financial distress, he produced as evidence of his financial strength a letter from an accounting firm saying he had close to $400 million in cash and cash equivalents. The letter did not include liabilities, however, and less than two months later, Mr. Trump was negotiating a lifeline with his bankers.

Ultimately, the banks decided Mr. Trump was “too big to fail,” and extended further credit. When the dust settled, he retained some important assets, like Trump Tower, and gave up control of others, including the Eastern Air Lines Shuttle. Under bankers’ orders, he altered his high-spending lifestyle.

More than a year has passed since Mr. Trump announced his candidacy, and the media has begun to chip away at his checkered business record. Still, the image of the self-made billionaire remains. He has yet to release his tax returns. Amazingly, we still don’t know exactly how much he inherited from his father’s real estate empire, valued at $250 million to $300 million when his father died in 1999, and probably worth multiples of that today.

This disconnect between the public’s perception of Mr. Trump as a self-made mogul and the reality of his being a rich kid who lost other people’s money and made far less for himself than he claims is still his Achilles’ heel.

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Things did not end well between us. One day in early 1991, one of Mr. Trump’s senior executives, Nick Ribis, invited me to a boxing match that his boss was sponsoring in Atlantic City. I declined at first, but my editor encouraged me to go. Then, in an act of bad judgment, I accepted free tickets for my brother and father.

Weeks later, after I wrote a tough article about Mr. Trump’s finances, his public relations representative called The New York Post’s Page Six and said, as I was told later by a senior Post reporter, “How would you like to destroy the career of a Wall Street Journal reporter?” The story that resulted made a series of wild and bogus accusations, saying I had extorted the tickets, asked for a suite at the Taj, and that out of anger that I hadn’t received more favors, had written negative articles about him.

My editors stood by me, but they and I agreed that I would stop covering him. By then Donald Trump had stopped being front-page news, but I had put my paper in a difficult position, and the episode stung.

Did he set me up? Did I set myself up? Several years later, I ran into a Trump executive who offered an explanation. A few months before the boxing match, I had reported that as Mr. Trump faced a cash shortfall, his father had bought $3.5 million worth of casino chips to help his son make an interest payment on the casino’s bonds. Mr. Trump was subsequently fined $30,000 by New Jersey’s gambling regulators for not reporting what was essentially a loan from his father. He was livid, the executive told me, and had vowed revenge. As Mr. Trump himself wrote in “The Art of the Comeback,” he told Nick Ribis to give me the tickets, then added, “but the next time he writes anything I’m going to blast him like he never got blasted before.”

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I last met with Donald Trump in 2007, by which point I had been managing a hedge fund for a decade. He was a reality television star, and his financial troubles were behind him. I was sponsoring a golf tournament at his club in Westchester County to raise money for a foundation that supported a Miami youth center.

Concerned that we might bump into each other, I called to see if he might want to meet first, and he invited me to his Fifth Avenue office. He couldn’t have been nicer. He boasted about a recent golf club purchase and said he was “bigger than ever.” He complimented me on my decision to go into finance. I asked him for a major donation for the youth center, and soon the conversation turned to our past squabbles.

“You hit me, then I hit you,” he said, with the wistful air of a nostalgic boxer. “As far as I’m concerned, we’re even.”

A week later, someone at the foundation told me it had received a check for $5,000.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/trump-the-bad-bad-businessman.amp.html






There's something screwed up with journalist Neil Barsky's timelines. He's talking about Trump's casinos failing in 1990. They both opened in 1996.


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Re: In you opinion, what are the 10 best things about Biden. [Re: Enlil]
    #26973495 - 10/07/20 11:18 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
we should have killed them all even the childern.




That's simply not who we are.  It might be who you are, but most Americans are not in favor of genocide.



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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
we should have killed them all even the childern.




That's simply not who we are.  It might be who you are, but most Americans are not in favor of genocide.



Is that why u want to let ethic Syrians get gassed or kurds slaughtered by turks? Thats not how war works. U see theres really no limit or rules theres just different levels. We are talking about isis here these people aren't gonna just change there mind about cutting heads off because we stopped being aggressive. Thats not how shit works they just take over steal everything and steamroller everyone. I dont think you people get it.


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