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    #26970820 - 10/05/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have grown and experienced various different strains of mushrooms over the years. I think they have all been cubes though so far.  Each trip has had some common elements and each has been different. When I have bought kits/syringes I have just picked at random without any idea of what I was going to be getting.

I know that there are literally hundreds of different species of psychedelic mushrooms out there.
Is there some way of getting some idea of what the expreince will be like for a particular strain/race/species BEFORE buying the spores and growing?

Right now, all we have is the doseage to determine the type of experience that a person gets.

I see that there are some truted spore suppliers here who have some unusual prints that are not normally available elsewhere.  But they do not give any information on what to expect from the mushrooms that these spore prints will eventully grow.

I dont really care what a fruit looks like, I care about what it will feel like after I have consumed it.

Does this make any kind of sense or do I need to explain further? Feel free to ask and I will do my best to explain some more.


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: JennyJackston] * 2
    #26970842 - 10/05/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

P. cubensis, regardless of strain name, will produce largely the same experience, aside from differences in potency for a couple unique varieties (PE etc).  Since they are the same species, they are pretty much the same.  Any differences in experience are going to be mostly set, setting, dose, or placebo effect.

There are not literally hundreds of different species of psychedelic mushrooms as far as I know.  Maybe dozens, if that, that we know of.  Now among those that are actually different from P. cubensis, the experience can vary a bit.  Searching posts in this forum is a great place to start, I just wanted to clear up a little confusion there.


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: JennyJackston]
    #26970853 - 10/05/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The Vaults of Erowid may hold useful information.


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: Forrester]
    #26970885 - 10/05/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Searching this forum? For what specifically Forrester?

According to Erowid……..”There are more than 180 species of mushrooms that contain the psychedelic chemicals psilocybin or psilocin.”

This is what I meant.  Species/Strain/race/family...wahtever.. I think people know what I meant.

I am looking for someway to have an idea of what the experience of various different species/strains/aces/families will be like, from those that have been down the road before me.


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: JennyJackston] * 1
    #26970913 - 10/05/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well then I stand corrected on the number of species, but out of those you are unlikely to be able to acquire any more than a dozen or so, and that's if you're extremely lucky.

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Species/Strain/race/family...wahtever.. I think people know what I meant.




What I was trying to explain if you were paying attention at all is that species and strain are very different things, so it's not just species/strain whatever...


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: Forrester]
    #26970924 - 10/05/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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P. cubensis, regardless of strain name, will produce largely the same experience, aside from differences in potency for a couple unique varieties (PE etc).  Since they are the same species, they are pretty much the same.  Any differences in experience are going to be mostly set, setting, dose, or placebo effect.

There are not literally hundreds of different species of psychedelic mushrooms as far as I know.  Maybe dozens, if that, that we know of.  Now among those that are actually different from P. cubensis, the experience can vary a bit.  Searching posts in this forum is a great place to start, I just wanted to clear up a little confusion there.




This list looks like dozens. Pretty neat list though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psilocybin_mushroom_species

Cubes is cubes, but it's fun seeing different types, and besides PE, how people claim all sorts of different magic.

It's how in the 70s people would talk about temple balls and say they had a religious pot experience, and how Thai stick made you feel like you were in Thailand. Mexican dirt weed made you understand Spanish, etc.

Honestly, different pot varieties probably have more actual unique personalities because of the many many different active chemicals, whereas cubes only have a few active chemicals. And one of the main cube chemicals turns into one of the other main cube chemicals in your body.

I'm just a noob, and this is largely based on reading, and talking to a few friends over the years. However: a lot of the "different cubes have different trips" is marketing, and is probably as scientific as astrology. But fun and fine if you're into it.

Someone should make a strain called "a cube is a cube is a cube."

I tend to believe Forrester, partially because 2013, partially because solid and funny answers. And partially because Nathan Explosion.


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like. Maybe a Trip report ... [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26970973 - 10/05/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I am also interested in learning more about the comparative experiences of some of the different psilocybin containing mushrooms.  I know that there are some accounts both on here and on Erowid of trip reports on various different species but not a whole lot that I can find.  Most deal with different species of psilocybe (cubes,Pe, APE, Weilli, liberty caps, ovoid, etc.) Aside from just  the varying ratios or lack of psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin and norbaeocystin, witch would likely influence an experience on its own, some species in genus such as Gymnopilus contain both bis-noryangonin and hispidine that are supposedly closely related to the alpha-pyrones found in kava and have been reported to add a calming and relaxing effect to the experience.  I believe Aeruginscin is also found in at least one active inocybe. Another article about how aeruginscin is being studied for potential use to eliminate “bad trips” can be found here. I would love to hear more trip reports if anyone has them, especially about bio essays with some of the different genera.  Here’s a breakdown of the different genera and the approximate number of species in each that are known to contain psilocybin, just to clear up some of the confusion.
Conocybe ~4
Galerina ~1
Gymnopilus ~14
Inocybe ~5
Panaeolus ~17
Pholiotina ~2
Pluteus ~10
Psilocybe ~130


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is [Re: JennyJackston] * 1
    #26971236 - 10/05/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is like.




Well yeah, and it's called experience. I've grown many different strains of cubes, a couple different psilocybin species so far, and hunted and consumed even more active species.

All species differ in interesting ways IME.  Most all strains of cubes that you select out and grow a monoculture from also differ in interesting ways. 

I'm not marketing any of them, but OTOH there's little rhyme nor reason to how you could describe the differences - beyond potency alone it's really not "this strain does this, that strain does that" etc.  You can start with MS with pretty much any cubensis spore print or syringe and isolate out cultivars with considerably different characteristics. 

That's really a strong reason to go to the trouble - because you can easily find something you really like. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Is there a place to find out what the experience of consuming different strains/races/types is [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26971265 - 10/05/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Vibes are very important when it comes to these types of experiences. Both in growing and using. If one type of shroom gives you a certain kind of vibe, it totally plays into set and setting so it may change from time to time and shroom to shroom


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    #26971371 - 10/05/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Vibes are very important when it comes to these types of experiences. Both in growing and using. If one type of shroom gives you a certain kind of vibe, it totally plays into set and setting so it may change from time to time and shroom to shroom





I understand.

I mostly think about outer space, and about early mankind. Any cube works for that. So does LSD.


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    #26971512 - 10/06/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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It's how in the 70s people would talk about temple balls and say they had a religious pot experience, and how Thai stick made you feel like you were in Thailand. Mexican dirt weed made you understand Spanish, etc.

Honestly, different pot varieties probably have more actual unique personalities because of the many many different active chemicals, whereas cubes only have a few active chemicals. And one of the main cube chemicals turns into one of the other main cube chemicals in your body. 





So true!  The power of suggestion can be quite strong.  Used to have a friend that acquired all the ketamine, and every couple weeks he would dye it a different color and come up with a new story about what animal it was intended to tranquilize.  It was funny to listen to people tell stories about how much stronger it was every time...

And the pot comparison is a very good point.  There's loads of different chemicals in pot that give it different characteristics, but as of yet only 4 in psilocybes that we know of yet (really 3).


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    #26971515 - 10/06/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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... a friend that acquired all the ketamine, and every couple weeks he would dye it a different color and come up with a new story about what animal it was intended to tranquilize. ..





Ha!

That sounds cute. Like something Toki would do for his pal Pickles.

Was the guy pleasant? Ketamine people I've known were bad crazy.


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    #26971518 - 10/06/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

it was a good group, nothing wrong with a little story here and there if you're not cutting the product or putting anything dangerous in it :lol:


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    #26972126 - 10/06/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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it was a good group, nothing wrong with a little story here and there if you're not cutting the product or putting anything dangerous in it :lol:





Yes. No judgement either.

The people I knew who shot K every day probably would have been creepy sober and living like monks.

Set/setting.
Input/output.
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