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Colonization speed of woodlovers
    #26970747 - 10/05/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have some ps cyan and some ovoid jars and they are much slower than my usual cube jars. Have you observed this too, wodlovers having a slower colonzation speed? It would fit the slow speed of for example shiitake, which Ive also recently had to deal with.

Its been colonizing for 2 Months now and at 90%

Or is my grain too dry or my temps too low maybe? Or a bacterial contam could also cause slow growth right?

So because of this I am unmotivated to do G2G and almost wanna go straight to woodchips, hoping it will be faster there because its its more "native" substrate.


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: polaritymind]
    #26970834 - 10/05/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I can't answer your questions about wood loving actives as I've never grown them, but for the record, shiitake (and most other wood eating gourmets) are not slow colonizers at all.  Most are as fast to much faster than cubes.


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: Forrester]
    #26973656 - 10/07/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Really? Well from experimental experience I can say thats not what Ive seen so far. But Ok. So just to be clear we are talking about grain colonization, right. Maybe there are fast and slow strains with both. I'd be curious to hear some other opinions on coloization speed of woodlovers vs cubes though


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: polaritymind]
    #26973661 - 10/07/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My cyanescens were slow on grain and then lightning fast once they hit sawdust.

2 months is a long time. Mine took about a month. I let them colonize at 70° with everything else.


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: The Fresh Prints]
    #26973664 - 10/07/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)


And if you can find this stuff, my cyanescens loved it. None of my gourmet cultures like it though.


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: polaritymind]
    #26973841 - 10/07/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Really? Well from experimental experience I can say thats not what Ive seen so far. But Ok. So just to be clear we are talking about grain colonization, right. Maybe there are fast and slow strains with both. I'd be curious to hear some other opinions on coloization speed of woodlovers vs cubes though




Yeah, I was talking about on grain for Shiitake.  I mean it's not as fast as oysters or lion's mane, but pretty close.  I'm sure cultures differ to some degree.


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: Forrester]
    #26973863 - 10/07/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on the genetics, IMO.  I've had ovoid jars, cyanescens, quebecensis,  and weraroa jars colonize at very different rates on the same grain prepped the same way and kept in the same location.  I'd say they are a little slow though compared to cubes (especially cyanescens).


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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: polaritymind]
    #26973873 - 10/07/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

P cyans will colonize slower than cubes.  If the grains are not colonized after a month though, give them an extra shake.  If they don't recover, they were contaminated.
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Re: Colonization speed of woodlovers [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #26976473 - 10/09/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you guys. I shook my jars and they are slowly recovering. Some look a bit iffy. Just to be sure I'm gonna go from agar again instead of G2G as planned before for my next jars. Some more patience, but thats OK.

I am also noticing the ovoid mycelium looking much thinner somehow, less like cube myc too. Will have to keep an eye on that, hope its really myc.


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