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1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. * 6
    #26969415 - 10/04/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bare with me I’m still working on tethering myself to this reality, but I wanted to get my feelings down.

I am still in absolute awe. Yesterday I took 1.5g of dried APEs. I thought I had an idea before this trip that I knew, to some degree, what it meant to have a psychedelic experience. I was wrong.

The breakdown:

Dose: 1.5g Ape

Route of Ingestion: Tea with lemon but the mushrooms were not discarded, I consumed them with the tea.

Setting: Dark room, in bed, with music playing from a speaker.

Time of Onset: Approximately 15 minutes after ingestion effects began

Come up: Incredibly fast and frightening

Duration of trip: About 3 hours of unbelievably intense effects. About an hour and a half of strong but diminishing effects after. Ending with about 2 hours of minimal effects rapidly decreasing.

The trip (I’m still processing what I experienced but part of that process for me is to write it down):

I’m in awe. The come up was incredibly fast. And it hit me like a freight train.
As soon as I started feeling the effects, my entire reality was vibrating in ways I’ve never felt. It was as if my atoms were being ripped apart and rebuilt infinitely. I was scared. My ego held on hard. I kept checking on my meters. Is my heart beating? Am I breathing? What’s happening to me? I don’t know how long this ego battle lasted, because under these effects it felt like forever.

Somehow I kept myself together. Slowly my breathing and heartbeat shifted away from my attention. The feeling of atomic disintegration gave way to a feeling of being everything. The music became me and I it. And then the CEVs began, accompanied by criticisms of my inadequacies.

I was watching unbelievable psychedelic landscapes unfold in my mind, indescribable places, while the mushroom was telling me everything wrong. “You have recently become addicted to mindless Youtube videos and games just to pass the time because you’re afraid of living”. “You’ve never been comfortable in yourself and so you’ve always lived life on others terms”. “You have no idea what it means to live”.

I was traveling in and out of being as I was being decimated by these criticisms (all absolutely true). And every time I came back to “existence” I was scared out of my mind. I though I knew what a difficult trip was because I had one uncomfortable one in the past. My hubris was shoved in my face by the mushroom. But somehow I took it all in. Moments of unbelievable fear opened up to moments of unrivaled astonishment. I was and I wasn’t. And soon, the difficulty passed and I was sailing the waves of hyperspace. It’s hard to remember the visions as I felt as if I ceased to exist and all experience was perfectly in that moment, never to be taken forward in time.

I was listening to Tool as the worst part faded and as I slowly returned to some form of previous awareness, I literally felt like I was melting, becoming part of the bed. My body was disintegrating, a mix of vibration and pressure was my reality. There was no “normal” existence in this space, everything was expressed as a vibration or force of pressure.

Eventually I reached a point where I could sit up without feeling as if my world was spinning in every possible direction. I sat for a while, observing the intense feelings in my body. The pressure on my face. The scalp feeling like there is a cleansing fire renewing it.

And slowly, about 3 hours after ingestion, I returned to a space that felt increasingly familiar to the ordinary. I was still very inebriated, but my face was no longer melting.

I’m still in absolute “shock”. I never expected 1.5g of APE to be unbelievably stronger than every 3/3.5g trip I’ve taken of non-PE variety. It was the single most profound experience I’ve had to date. It was incredibly frightening at times and awe provoking at others. I got a taste of my hubris and the colossal size of my ego. And I got to experience its dissolution. Now I will work to integrate what I’ve learned. And although it was incredibly difficult at times, I’ve never been more excited to experiment with this “flesh of the gods”. I hope to return to this space soon, after I’ve wrapped my head around everything.

I love you all. During some of my difficult moments, many of you manifested to me. You’re presence as a community and as individuals helped me overcome the tremendous fear I felt at times. I hope I can one day give myself in service and love to you all.



Side note: I went to the bathroom during the beginning of the trip. It was a nightmare. Turning the light on made me “white out” and I was losing my awareness rapidly, spiraling into a feeling of non existence. I quickly got out of there and started to feel better. So if you’re tripping in the dark, try not to turn lights on :hehehe:


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom] * 2
    #26969453 - 10/04/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:hamletmonkey: booyaaaah


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #26969481 - 10/04/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My favorite dosage and favorite variety. 1.5g tea, did not consume the mushrooms and I couldn’t even open my eyes ! It was amazing


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26969484 - 10/04/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Damn dude! I’ve been “there” wherever that space is. I can definitely relate to this trip report. And thank you for putting it into words.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Tankie_J] * 1
    #26969513 - 10/04/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nice write up :smile:  Glad I read... it's been 6+ years since I've tripped but it's been calling.  Was thinking 1g of APEs might be a threshold dose.  Will have to reconsider...


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Tankie_J] * 1
    #26969522 - 10/04/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Woww amazing trip report man. Sounds like you hit dosage right on the money. Now imagine if you were to have gone down the proverbial 5gisd route :eek: PE definitely a breed of its own


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26969544 - 10/04/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

🙏🏼. I know how you feel by all the content you wrote. When you have a life altering trip, your fingers just type away about the experience but still it’s not comprehended by words. Perfect geometric shapes and patterns. Entity’s. It’s real but it’s in a “altered state of consciousness.” I know I’m the least artistic person( I can hardly draw a stick figure). When you trip your 3rd eye opens up. I want to do dmt again but I’m afraid.
      I came to dmt not respecting the power of it. So I seen “mother aya” (I think Mother Earth) and she scared the fk out of me. I had my eyes open and tried to lean against a tree that wasn’t there. The thing about dmt if you see something and look away... when you look back it’s still there!
    Shrooms and dmt are not a party drug but something you go to when you want to explore spirituality. Respect their power when you come to them or you will witness hell.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom] * 2
    #26969761 - 10/04/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a good time. :cookiemonster:


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26970016 - 10/05/20 12:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

damn PE sounds wild. cool trip report thx for sharing


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
    #26970038 - 10/05/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just you wait & see Mr. OP!

There’s always one more shout coming.

Huzzah!

:cheers:


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26970246 - 10/05/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Psicomvb said:
:hamletmonkey: booyaaaah




How I felt :hehehe:

:tripnoob:

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CrashTest said:
My favorite dosage and favorite variety. 1.5g tea, did not consume the mushrooms and I couldn’t even open my eyes ! It was amazing



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Tankie_J said:
Damn dude! I’ve been “there” wherever that space is. I can definitely relate to this trip report. And thank you for putting it into words.




Thank you for reading! :heart:

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Forrester said:
Nice write up :smile:  Glad I read... it's been 6+ years since I've tripped but it's been calling.  Was thinking 1g of APEs might be a threshold dose.  Will have to reconsider...




I had 1g about 2 months ago and it was a great experience but very mellow (I'd say akin to 2-2.5g of non-PE). The difference from 1g to 1.5g, however, was monumental. I would, however, suggest closer to 1.5g. 1g just didn't seem to get me there, but 1.5g literally blew me away.


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Woww amazing trip report man. Sounds like you hit dosage right on the money. Now imagine if you were to have gone down the proverbial 5gisd route :eek: PE definitely a breed of its own




I think so. I've been wanting a heavy trip for a while but I've been too scared to take the leap. After having a great but not too intense 1g APE trip 2 months ago, I thought 1.5g wouldn't be such a leap. And although I was proven wrong immediately, I'm glad that I had such a heavy/hard trip because I didn't have an opportunity to chicken out. I had to accept the fact that I took a dose I wasn't expecting and muster some courage to work through it.


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Sounds like a good time. :cookiemonster:




It sure was! Thanks for reading :heart:

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damn PE sounds wild. cool trip report thx for sharing




Thank you for reading :heart: It was unprecedented for me. I'm glad they kicked my ass and humbled me.

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Just you wait & see Mr. OP!

There’s always one more shout coming.

Huzzah!

:cheers:




:loveheart:

Without a doubt I now see that the rabbit hole goes so much deeper and that I basically haven't even begun to experience the expanse of the psychedelic experience.

I have a lot to think about but I'm elated that I got destroyed and faced with my own arrogance/ego. I'm excited for my future trips and know that I can no longer "pussy foot" with small doses and act like I understand the psychedelic experience.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26970499 - 10/05/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’m looking for a ape supplier since I’ve been failing trying to grow them 😩


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Exstortion]
    #26970532 - 10/05/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I’m looking for a ape supplier since I’ve been failing trying to grow them 😩




I grew mine PF Tek style to bulk with coir. Obviously it's not as advanced technique as agar and grain but they seemed to work well with the PF Tek mixture. Perhaps try growing them with brf/verm?

Either way good luck getting them! They really are something special in terms of potency.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26970546 - 10/05/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Socrateshroom said:
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I’m looking for a ape supplier since I’ve been failing trying to grow them 😩




I grew mine PF Tek style to bulk with coir. Obviously it's not as advanced technique as agar and grain but they seemed to work well with the PF Tek mixture. Perhaps try growing them with brf/verm?

Either way good luck getting them! They really are something special in terms of potency.




Yea I did that last time. I inculcated 6 GT and 6 apes. I did not use proper technique when it comes to being sterile. That being said.... only 3 GT jars made it and only 1 ape jar made it. After the 2nd flush of GT the ape cake was still not pinning. People told me to wait. So I did. But days later I noticed a funky smell in my sgfc. It was coming from the ape. So I buried the ape cake in my yard hoping maybe it would grow. It didn’t.

    Now I use a SAB and torch needles. Someone told me you can’t grow apes 🦧 on brf cakes. Is that true? I’ve never seen a pic of 🦧 growing on a cake. If you have please show me the pic thanks 🙏 I would appreciate it.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Exstortion]
    #26970586 - 10/05/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Exstortion said:
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Socrateshroom said:
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Exstortion said:
I’m looking for a ape supplier since I’ve been failing trying to grow them 😩




I grew mine PF Tek style to bulk with coir. Obviously it's not as advanced technique as agar and grain but they seemed to work well with the PF Tek mixture. Perhaps try growing them with brf/verm?

Either way good luck getting them! They really are something special in terms of potency.




Yea I did that last time. I inculcated 6 GT and 6 apes. I did not use proper technique when it comes to being sterile. That being said.... only 3 GT jars made it and only 1 ape jar made it. After the 2nd flush of GT the ape cake was still not pinning. People told me to wait. So I did. But days later I noticed a funky smell in my sgfc. It was coming from the ape. So I buried the ape cake in my yard hoping maybe it would grow. It didn’t.

    Now I use a SAB and torch needles. Someone told me you can’t grow apes 🦧 on brf cakes. Is that true? I’ve never seen a pic of 🦧 growing on a cake. If you have please show me the pic thanks 🙏 I would appreciate it.




I heard they are harder to grow on cakes but I don't know the truth behind that. I didn't birth them as cakes, although they were pinning in the jars so clearly, in my opinion, they can grow from the cake.

But I shredded my cakes to bulk and they grew fine. I'd recommend going cakes to bulk for APEs, seems a lot of people have success doing it that route if they're still on PF TEK


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26970592 - 10/05/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You know what? I’m going to take your advice and try that. I have 7 Roatan Honduras about ready but I’m afraid to shred them when I know I can just put them in a sgfc and have fruits. I’m afraid of shredding them and failing.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Exstortion]
    #26970654 - 10/05/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You know what? I’m going to take your advice and try that. I have 7 Roatan Honduras about ready but I’m afraid to shred them when I know I can just put them in a sgfc and have fruits. I’m afraid of shredding them and failing.




Nothing to fear. I've had nothing but success shredding to bulk with coir. So long as you prep your coir properly, and your cakes are nice and healthy, you should be fine.

Get a shoebox, shred 3-4 cakes in it with a 1:1 ratio of prepped coir (i use a tiny bit more coir), add a small casing layer of coir if you're doing APE or PE to prevent blobbing and you're good to go.

I've had great yields per cake when doing bulk as compared to when I fruited cakes. And I haven't run into any issues except when I used less than 3 cakes in a shoebox.

It was a natural progression from me because it's good practice getting used to bulk with cakes before moving on to grains.


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26970765 - 10/05/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I bought 20lbs of substrate from a good vendor. Can I use that instead of choir? Or is that a must? Also thanks for the info 🙏🏼


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Re: 1.5g APE, I thought I knew what it meant to trip. I was wrong. [Re: Exstortion]
    #26970793 - 10/05/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Exstortion said:
I bought 20lbs of substrate from a good vendor. Can I use that instead of choir? Or is that a must? Also thanks for the info 🙏🏼




I'm not sure but I wouldn't use anything nutritious that can harbor other growth. But check with someone more knowledgable on mycology than myself.

Coir, as far as I know, doesn't harbor any pathogens and isn't nutritious enough so it's perfect for bulk.

Your substrate may need sterilization whereas coir doesn't.

But like I said, check with more knowledgable people.


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    #26970798 - 10/05/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Will do thanks. If any more experienced growers know I would love a opinion.


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