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Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC
    #26968584 - 10/04/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

After reading about the Humidity Chamber, I noticed the addition of coir was touted as a superior way to increase humidity.

If that's the case, SGFCs would benefit from using coir, too, instead of Pearlite.

Has anyone tried this, or is everyone hell-bent on changing two variables at a time? 😂


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26968711 - 10/04/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26968726 - 10/04/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

At that point might as well just do monos if you are already fill a tub with coir might as well let it colonize🤷‍♂️


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: polyflakes]
    #26968768 - 10/04/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Some people's sterile technique won't  allow that. Others don't want that many shrooms, so they have very small fruiting chambers, like for only one cake.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford] * 2
    #26968782 - 10/04/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Everything that's ever been done in amateur mycology is something a 4th grader could do without their parents help. Everyone can do good sterile technique with a couple days of practice. It's a bullshit excuse, literally anyone can get good at it.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26968785 - 10/04/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Once the cake is colonized, you're doing everything in open air anyway. And if you don't want more mushrooms (why would this be a problem?), just toss them or give away...

If you're already prepping the coir to put into the SGFC, I can't see any reason not to shred to bulk. Making a shoebox with the coir/shredded cakes and leaving it alone is a much better option than using the coir in a SGFC.

But if you really want to use coir as the moisture source in a SGFC for some reason, go right ahead... :smile:


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26968802 - 10/04/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The more shrooms you have the more serious the crime.

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Everything that's ever been done in amateur mycology is something a 4th grader could do without their parents help. Everyone can do good sterile technique with a couple days of practice. It's a bullshit excuse, literally anyone can get good at it.




There are people out there way more incompetent than your average fourth grader, who smoked themselves retarded.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26968833 - 10/04/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ya I'm one of em:kingtard:

This guy did this


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See proof I'm a tard I linked something you mentioned in your opening statement.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26968846 - 10/04/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hartford said:
The more shrooms you have the more serious the crime.



Bro...honestly, one cake or a big tub, it's the same deal. You're in for a penny, you're in for a pound. If you're not being flashy or mouthy about it, it shouldn't even be a concern, but the bottom line is, even if you just have jars of mycelia and one dinky mushroom drying on your dresser, you're in the same legal situation.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: FlufferNutter]
    #26968852 - 10/04/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The more shrooms you have the more serious the crime.



Bro...honestly, one cake or a big tub, it's the same deal. You're in for a penny, you're in for a pound. If you're not being flashy or mouthy about it, it shouldn't even be a concern, but the bottom line is, even if you just have jars of mycelia and one dinky mushroom drying on your dresser, you're in the same legal situation.




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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26968862 - 10/04/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I used Mateah’s humidity chamber tek when I was starting out with great results. Now I just shred all my BRF cakes to coir/verm in shoeboxes.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: CrashTest]
    #26968892 - 10/04/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I would use hydroton over perlite myself, perlite gets packed in too easy and I can never find super coarse grade.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26968924 - 10/04/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you only have enough for yourself and you can prove you're doing it for the purpose of self-improvement, you have a lot more leverage in a court of law than if you've got enough jars to supply a small town.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26968925 - 10/04/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

you could put anything wet in a fruiting chamber, coir will work perlite hydroton gravel wet towel  paper towel a bit of water, everything will justbrequire it's own tweeks


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #26968945 - 10/04/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yes but don't.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
    #26968977 - 10/04/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Is there any definite proof which is most effective at raising humidity?


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26968980 - 10/04/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Hartford said:
The more shrooms you have the more serious the crime.



Bro...honestly, one cake or a big tub, it's the same deal. You're in for a penny, you're in for a pound. If you're not being flashy or mouthy about it, it shouldn't even be a concern, but the bottom line is, even if you just have jars of mycelia and one dinky mushroom drying on your dresser, you're in the same legal situation.




:rockon: that was awesome, made me smile... talkin like a kingpin




Not a kingpin by any standards, but I'm glad it made you smile. I'm just trying to assuage dude's paranoia. Hes right in that if you have a big op going,  pulling elbows a month, then yeah.. explaining personal use may not apply. What hes not getting is the fact that just because hes got some PF cakes and a fruiting chamber that somehow, in the event that he would have to explain himself, that he would be in any less felony manufacturing trouble. It might make your lawyers job easier and you might not get in trouble, but a felony is a fucking felony no matter how you slice it up. Cakes or cargo containers, it's the same charge.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: FlufferNutter]
    #26969005 - 10/04/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Having to say you were convicted of growing shrooms is a cool addition to a job application, imo


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: FlufferNutter]
    #26969020 - 10/04/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Like they said, that part of the application would read the same whether you were caught with a cake or a tub. Bottom line is be careful and do what you're comfortable doing.

And why use the coir at all? If you're not going to shred them to bulk, put the cakes in a water tub or something.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26969122 - 10/04/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The punishment would be different


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26969146 - 10/04/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The punishment would be different



I think that both sides are correct.  I don't think any of these points negates any other.  The judge could look at the circumstances, whereas a jury would not.

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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26969355 - 10/04/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What would be the most effective way to humidify a SGFC? Coir or Perlite?


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26969374 - 10/04/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Wet coir is alot harder to dry!


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26969388 - 10/04/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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What would be the most effective way to humidify a SGFC? Coir or Perlite?



Perlite all the way.  Water evaps much faster off of perlite than coir.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26969669 - 10/04/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like the only reason that would justify using coir seems to be for low maintenance grow chambers, like for people who aren't able to fan every day.


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: Hartford] * 1
    #26969684 - 10/04/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

you're right about that... but that just makes my point- coir wouldn't be less maintenance if water evaporated more quickly from it :wink:


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26969691 - 10/04/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Try it out and see for yourself :goodluck:


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Re: Using Coir instead of Perlite in SGFC (moved) [Re: seand04]
    #26969927 - 10/04/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

perlite is the best option, easy to find it's cheap itsvreusable it doesn't contaminate, it doesn't actually hold water so everything evaporates.


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