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spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not * 2
    #26966990 - 10/03/20 08:01 AM (21 days, 20 hours ago)

WELCOME ABOARD

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10/3/2020
Had a few leftover pasty plates that didn't make the cut for transfers. Rather than toss the pucks, I decided to try spawning them!  :mushroom2: I've got 2 wild enoki plates, one of which you see pinning in the first pic, a luecistic golden teacher (my ghostie variety), cambo x golden teachers, and some texas orange cap. I tried to keep the cups filled just below the lid. I topped them off with a thin top layer of coir. I'm just storing them in a monotub on top of some colonizing shoeboxes. We'll see how it goes!
 

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10/6/2020
Moved the containers to a shoebox with a lid, and put a grocery bag over the lid to regulate FAE, as these containers tend to dry out if exposed. Also popped their tops, but sat them on the lids to keep the labels. Agar is starting to recover and colonize!



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10/10/2020
this is the best looking one


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10/12/2020
OK did a few more plates. I have untransferred plates coming soon, but they are like 90% and I'm waiting for full colonization before spawning. Below we have Cambodian Gold, Luecistic Golden Teachers, and wild Enoki. Just did like a 1/4" top layer of coir.



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10/18/2020
top layer update! these are looking promising. left to right is cambodian gold, lgt, and enoki.




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10/20/2020
Colonization update. Looking good!



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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26967056 - 10/03/20 09:03 AM (21 days, 19 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Mateah]
    #26967078 - 10/03/20 09:20 AM (21 days, 19 hours ago)

Nice!!


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26967176 - 10/03/20 10:48 AM (21 days, 17 hours ago)

Cool experiment!  :cool:
Munchauzen did yer avatar get a sex change?  :eek:

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Inthepit]
    #26967182 - 10/03/20 10:53 AM (21 days, 17 hours ago)

I'm a what?
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Mateah]
    #26967194 - 10/03/20 11:04 AM (21 days, 17 hours ago)

:awegroove::rockon::popcorn:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Tormato]
    #26967354 - 10/03/20 12:28 PM (21 days, 16 hours ago)

Nice thread, I’ve been considering doing something like this myself for reasons.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26967360 - 10/03/20 12:30 PM (21 days, 16 hours ago)

ya I'm mostly interested in these for spore printing! want a short path to spores without doing a full grow.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26967396 - 10/03/20 12:59 PM (21 days, 15 hours ago)

Me too :thumbup:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26967530 - 10/03/20 02:28 PM (21 days, 14 hours ago)

:whatdidyoudo:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: cronicr]
    #26967548 - 10/03/20 02:38 PM (21 days, 14 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: LemonTekno]
    #26967551 - 10/03/20 02:39 PM (21 days, 14 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: tripdawg420]
    #26967561 - 10/03/20 02:46 PM (21 days, 14 hours ago)

Hmmmm. Bery interdasting.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26967612 - 10/03/20 03:12 PM (21 days, 13 hours ago)

1 - so good to see you're still around Pasty!

2 - Same to you Munch!

I took a 3-ish year hiatus from Shroomery and cultivation in general unfortunately.. due to crazy work and other "real" life bullshit. But I'm back and hope to get more active again. Also back to cultivating some again.

Not sure if you guys remember me but just wanted to say hey.


Also 3 - I actually did this same/very similar thing with a couple of my Pasty plates when I was still cultivating and it did actually work for a couple. Of course it was a very small yield, to be expected, but I was just surprised it worked as decent as it did haha.

Cant wait to see your results =] much love!

Edit - I also like the quick to print idea.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: mupetmower]
    #26967613 - 10/03/20 03:14 PM (21 days, 13 hours ago)

for sure my dude welcome back! thanks for joining in


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26967686 - 10/03/20 03:52 PM (21 days, 12 hours ago)

Yeah welcome back, I do remember you a bit for real :rockon:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26967700 - 10/03/20 04:08 PM (21 days, 12 hours ago)

Nice.  Wondered if you were gonna try this after seeing you mention it earlier this week.  Going to give this a whirl again myself since you're fiddling around with it...:rockon:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26967746 - 10/03/20 04:48 PM (21 days, 11 hours ago)

:goodluck:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Jugster]
    #26967843 - 10/03/20 06:05 PM (21 days, 10 hours ago)

This is just agar > coir correct? Do you intend to try further tests or just the coir?


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26967889 - 10/03/20 06:34 PM (21 days, 10 hours ago)

Ya just MDA to coir. All I'm really looking to get from them is maybe a handful of caps worth printing.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26967897 - 10/03/20 06:38 PM (21 days, 10 hours ago)

Sweet idea...

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26968000 - 10/03/20 07:36 PM (21 days, 9 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Dhearic]
    #26968290 - 10/03/20 11:44 PM (21 days, 5 hours ago)

Once fully colonized if you don't have a martha you can just go what I did. I turned a widemouth upside down put two pencils under the jar and sprayed the inside the jar a few times a day it worked well. Just a idea.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: trippytimes]
    #26968297 - 10/03/20 11:48 PM (21 days, 4 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: p9hu7]
    #26971928 - 10/06/20 01:02 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

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Moved the containers to a shoebox with a lid, and put a grocery bag over the lid to regulate FAE, as these containers tend to dry out if exposed. Also popped their tops, but sat them on the lids to keep the labels. Agar is starting to recover and colonize!



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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26971984 - 10/06/20 01:36 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

Grocery bag niceee:rockon:. I use them too. They hold in moisture really nice. A nice dome tent.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: seand04]
    #26972068 - 10/06/20 02:14 PM (18 days, 14 hours ago)

I usually keep shoeboxes in monotubs, but I didn't want to use a whole mono just for one shoebox.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26972196 - 10/06/20 03:24 PM (18 days, 13 hours ago)

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26972243 - 10/06/20 04:00 PM (18 days, 12 hours ago)

:takingnotes:

If that fully colonizes, I suggest going further with it.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26972316 - 10/06/20 04:45 PM (18 days, 12 hours ago)

Interested...
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26976772 - 10/09/20 12:04 PM (15 days, 16 hours ago)

Stalled or still going?

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26976798 - 10/09/20 12:26 PM (15 days, 16 hours ago)

Enoki hasn't done much of anything which I expected.

Cubes are moving slow but steady it looks like. Gonna do more plates this weekend, and this time I'll use good plates intended for this, and not just the transfer rejects.

Not home but I'll post progress pics tomorrow. I got some fuzz poking thru my top layer on one cube.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26976806 - 10/09/20 12:33 PM (15 days, 16 hours ago)

Would you say the Cubensis is utilizing the coir as a substrate (enzymes, decay), more than just a water sponge? Or cant really say yet?


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26976848 - 10/09/20 01:10 PM (15 days, 15 hours ago)

Quote:

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Would you say the Cubensis is utilizing the coir as a substrate (enzymes, decay), more than just a water sponge? Or cant really say yet?




I’m pretty sure based on the results of other tests done already that coir is used as a substrate, not just a water “sponge.” I’m more interested in the real aim of his efforts here, I’m actually planning to start my own tests in this vein.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26976853 - 10/09/20 01:12 PM (15 days, 15 hours ago)

Dope :popcorn:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26976952 - 10/09/20 02:20 PM (15 days, 14 hours ago)

Good good. I tried various tests with another substrate, which is similar. I also tested growth on phenols (in this case from tea), separate from growth on cellulose.

The phenol test had its own nutrients (nitrogen, etc), and produced white-rot (decayed the tea phenols, turning the plate white).
The cellulose test required both nutrients, and an additional carbon source (sucrose) to germinate and grow.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26977219 - 10/09/20 05:38 PM (15 days, 11 hours ago)

What kind of yields you seeing from that?


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26977254 - 10/09/20 06:10 PM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

Usually close to the maximum for the species, depends on your setup and water replenishment. It terms of nutrients, abundantly more.
12kg of plain paper produced about 600g of fresh fruits, 600g of enriched paper produced about 500g fresh.

Minus the average 90% water, that's about 60g and 50g dry weight.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26977279 - 10/09/20 06:27 PM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

12 kg of paper to produce 110 dry grams? Is that 12 kg dry or hydrated? It sounds like a terrible return. What kind of footprint are we talking about? I’m looking at getting that first flush from one mono with ms and it ain’t no 12 kg I’ll tell you that much. From a good clone and some decent spawn and I’m doubling that yield. I’m not sure what the upside is.

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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26977297 - 10/09/20 06:39 PM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

12kg hydrated paper (no nutrients) produced 600g hydrated mushrooms, 60g dry (@ 90% water).
600g hydrated paper (added nutrients) produced 500g hydrated mushrooms, 50g dry.

20g hydrated paper (added nutrients) + 5g hydrated spawn, produced ~20g hydrated Cubensis.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Ferather]
    #26977299 - 10/09/20 06:41 PM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

We need pics of those yieldz :nerd:

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    #26977330 - 10/09/20 06:58 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

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    #26977334 - 10/09/20 07:01 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

This discussion should really be its own thread. I’m not actually trying to hate on the paper idea, but it’s off topic here.


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    #26977345 - 10/09/20 07:10 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

I didn't take images of the fruits from the bigger one, only colonization, the smaller test I did not take images of the weight as it wasn't a serious setup (tub and tent), not optimal.

                   

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    #26977390 - 10/09/20 07:46 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

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    #26977464 - 10/09/20 08:42 PM (15 days, 8 hours ago)

I kinda expected you to just toss some coir on top


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    #26978240 - 10/10/20 11:53 AM (14 days, 16 hours ago)

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I kinda expected you to just toss some coir on top




So did I but while what he did is technically riskier, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it worked, especially if the culture is vigorous. It’s going to be interesting.


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    #26978440 - 10/10/20 02:13 PM (14 days, 14 hours ago)

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I kinda expected you to just toss some coir on top




So did I... It’s going to be interesting.




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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Funky Monkey] * 1
    #26978487 - 10/10/20 02:54 PM (14 days, 13 hours ago)

this is the best looking one


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I kinda expected you to just toss some coir on top




So did I... It’s going to be interesting.




Me three. :popcorn:




ok ok I get it. I 'll do just a top layer on some in the next round.


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    #26978495 - 10/10/20 03:01 PM (14 days, 13 hours ago)

That’s looking pretty good munch :grin:


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26978602 - 10/10/20 04:11 PM (14 days, 12 hours ago)

I'm still wondering what it will do with added nutrients (MG-YN), and possibly calcium carbonate. My point with the paper post was the nutrients and pH, not the paper.
My only concern, which I tried to point out, is the phenol content (notably lignin) in coir, and mold can germinate on phenols (like sugar).

Various lignicolous organisms, notably fungi, can decay and utilize plant phenols, and fully germinate.

Coir, like paper pellets, are notably low in key nutrients, not complete.



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    #26980845 - 10/12/20 05:13 AM (12 days, 23 hours ago)

OK did a few more plates. I have untransferred plates coming soon, but they are like 90% and I'm waiting for full colonization before spawning. Below we have Cambodian Gold, Luecistic Golden Teachers, and wild Enoki. Just did like a 1/4" top layer of coir.



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    #26981078 - 10/12/20 10:39 AM (12 days, 18 hours ago)

Now it’s getting interesting. Anything on the original plates?


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    #26981207 - 10/12/20 12:01 PM (12 days, 16 hours ago)

I put a post in 'Cultivation General Discussion' you should find it interesting, can discuss it there with 'everyone'.

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    #26982406 - 10/12/20 10:50 PM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

I top layered these with coir and placed in a liquid shoebox.
Bottom left in the pic is a 6 month old AA+, the rest are LGT which of one pinned a week ago and there's one with a thumbnail sized green satellite partially engulfed by myc. Let's see what's gonna happen with these 4 plates :popcorn:



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    #26982412 - 10/12/20 10:53 PM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

:omgawesome:

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was checking my first round of mixed up plates earlier. looks like one is almost fully colonized, cept the sides don't seem to be colonizing. which is odd. it looks like the center of the container is colonized and is poking thru the top layer... but don't really see much growth on the sides. I'll keep an eye on it.


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    #26990096 - 10/17/20 03:31 PM (7 days, 13 hours ago)

The top layer method seems to be working.




I checked my first round and the coir seems to be somewhat colonized, but it has like no structural integrity. Its still super loose but I can see bits of myc throughout it. Just gonna leave em and see what happens for now.


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    #26990454 - 10/17/20 08:20 PM (7 days, 8 hours ago)

How did you prep the coir? Heat treated?


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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that


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    #26990578 - 10/17/20 09:43 PM (7 days, 7 hours ago)

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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that



Wait what :confused:



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    #26990604 - 10/17/20 10:09 PM (7 days, 6 hours ago)

I still like cooked coir. Not so much for the pasteurizing business but it just like the consistency of the coir cooked a bit and seems to hold a tad more water. I might just see what I like to see though.


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I've been using hot tap water ever since I read Eat's Unbucket tek and it seems to work pretty damn well for me. Only wait 20-30 mins and it's good to mix and spawn.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26990754 - 10/18/20 12:04 AM (7 days, 4 hours ago)

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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that




I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.


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I feel like cooked coir works best


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Coir also has a pleasant petrichor like smell when it’s hot


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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that




I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.




first, cool TIL EAT'S UNBUCKET T3K 1.0 ™

So... Mr. Whyte didn't you say;
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140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level. Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s.  - Pasty



Or do I have  someone else's quote. I mean it seems like yer against boiling here?
But I definitely get that each person has their own results,
which are not dependent on the same procedure.
I mean, so many variables, it's hard to set a standard.

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Yeah boiling water. Didn't know till a few days ago y'all quit doing that




I’m definitely still doing it though it’s cool that it works without. But hydro shop coir kinda makes me still like the ol boiling water.




first, cool TIL EAT'S UNBUCKET T3K 1.0 ™

So... Mr. Whyte didn't you say;
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140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level. Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s.  - Pasty



Or do I have  someone else's quote. I mean it seems like yer against boiling here?
But I definitely get that each person has their own results,
which are not dependent on the same procedure.
I mean, so many variables, it's hard to set a standard.

OMG, belaboring my point sorry!



coir and pastuerization don't go in the same sentence. you pastuerize poo substrates. no need to do that with coir.

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Wait what :confused:



Ya, it's 140 to 160 F as I read in the boards.



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    #26991065 - 10/18/20 09:19 AM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

Oh poo! I mean thank you Munch!
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    #26991095 - 10/18/20 09:42 AM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

top layer update! these are looking promising. left to right is cambodian gold, lgt, and enoki.



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    #26991535 - 10/18/20 03:58 PM (6 days, 12 hours ago)

See I just do this for prints of genetics if I need to test my agar. works pritty good get a few good shrooms and I get my spores. I don't have a sgfc or a martha or I would try that method with cups. Seems it needs alot more work then with mono


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    #26991548 - 10/18/20 04:06 PM (6 days, 12 hours ago)

ya ultimately I'm just hoping to improve the cap size as the fruits from straight agar are always tiny. maybe get 2-3 fruits with 1"-2" caps, that's all I hope to get.


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I mean if you just put spawn or agar into the bottom of a clean jar with the lid on you can easy get 1"-3" caps clean spores. I have don't that a few times accidentally lol didn't clean the jars had about 15 grains down at the bottom and a month later big ole shrooms lol.


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    #26992329 - 10/19/20 07:47 AM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

The point though is to avoid having to transfer to grains, just grow your puck, throw in coir, get nicer mushrooms than just straight agar.


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What I don't understand is I have actually fruited straight agar plate into a Tupperware container sealed.. you don't have to add core to make the mushroom big. Core does not have that many nutrients most of the nutrients comes from the grain itself or the agar itself.


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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: trippytimes]
    #26993155 - 10/19/20 04:55 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

Yes, plain agar will fruit. However, the fruits from just agar are not big enough for my uses. So I'm trying to improve in that regard. The coir provides a water reservoir to produce larger fruits.

The point of this is to get enough spores to make syringes. I don't give a shit about the mushrooms. The pic of that tiny cap you posted wouldn't make very many spore syringes.


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    #26993165 - 10/19/20 05:01 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

Nutrition is rarely the deciding factor on fruit size IME. Water supply is more important and while an agar plate has little water for the fruits to use, coir has lots. Bigger caps and more spores might be aided with more FAE, but dialing in a no pour plate isn’t something I’ve much experience with :lol:


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    #26995223 - 10/20/20 09:23 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Colonization update. Looking good!




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Re: spawning agar pucks to coir cause why not [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26995238 - 10/20/20 09:28 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

That enoki myc gives me the heebie jeebies lol


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    #26995242 - 10/20/20 09:30 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

That's cobweb! Lol JK. Figured I'd say the most noob thing I can.


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    #26995244 - 10/20/20 09:31 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Here it is on agar, pinning as well. it does look weird if you've never seen it.



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    #26995266 - 10/20/20 09:40 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Pic is from two days ago.


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    #26995303 - 10/20/20 09:56 PM (4 days, 6 hours ago)

:ohyeah::munchdance:


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