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Watch the spamming, please. Post within reason.
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I had a meal, I felt sense of guilt. It will fade away. This might be memorium of yours and others. People keep things in order, bring fresh flowers. I live on the other side of fence. You may say it any way you wish, but I will claim my reason very, very sharp and global, in itself very personal too. I am like a brother of ego, easy to shatter, because seemingly "other side of a fence " may have it's own rules there. There where it belongs. Pardon my excentered explanation of core of an idea behind this all. My reason is simple. Let's exist above all borders legally. I seek something. Love may have many definitions. I don't seek love, I am bloody rich with it. I offer you not to steal it, not to ruin it, but something else. Yet where love begins to sprout, hate is reasonable for me. Thermodynamics. Above it all, brothers, sisters, and I cannot reach them. Because they have rules . I am opened up for a conflict of rules, be it debate, fight, energetical domino effect. Re-act, ion. I had yours, you had mine. You wants to cancel me, I gives up on you. Requiem has a definition.
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probably on stimulants?
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VeryStrangeMan
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Thank you:?
Something possibly, yes, but not them illegal drugs induced stimulus. Just ageing all of a sudden.
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I believe love is something beyond logic or the need for reciprocation.
That's my pithy thought at the moment
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
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I agree. First of all, when we are young and in love, we are at our least logical, and can see no fault in the other. Also, unconditional love seems to place empathy and compassion far above logic, although to what degree unconditional love can exist is a separate and difficult topic.
In the end, I don't think love nor logic have anything to do with one another.
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true, but it is always logical to love rather than the opposite
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I agree. When faced with the option to love or hate, according to my personal logic, love is virtually always the better option.
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Love feels good. Hate feels bad. Most people love to do what makes them feel good. Most people hate to do what makes them feel bad.
But the question is: is it most people or every single one of us?
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: Pinkerton]
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I prefer to say that "disarmonia mundi" is very dominative aspect, and "pureness" of love is like cast alloys, you need to master hate to have stronger love. The "root of evil" is in us too.
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: Pinkerton]
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Pinkerton said: Love feels good. Hate feels bad. Most people love to do what makes them feel good. Most people hate to do what makes them feel bad.
But the question is: is it most people or every single one of us?
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VeryStrangeMan said: I prefer to say that "disarmonia mundi" is very dominative aspect, and "pureness" of love is like cast alloys, you need to master hate to have stronger love. The "root of evil" is in us too.
this is wildly strange - would fit in a comic book where the hero is an assassin.
i.e. rules for some secret ninja society.
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Pinkerton said: Love feels good. Hate feels bad. Most people love to do what makes them feel good. Most people hate to do what makes them feel bad.
But the question is: is it most people or every single one of us?
interesting insight
Icelander the bodhisattva himself said I'm all about love and when you RödaGrönaVs +1 my post my love increase. This is good stuff and calls for some Bukem.

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You just made my day. Many of ninjas lived in solitude and never showed their hero in light of love, daily and common love. Bread. They never made it to bread. Their hero never made it into bread. Because fame is an obstacle. Fame pays. Love and hate being twisted tighter than DNA doesn't accept many forms of payment. Sex without love is just fucking. Love without sex is just "baking cookies" every day. Hard to be a hero - you have to love, to kill, to bake bread, share it, give birth to even more heroic children and,, yes. Nevermind. It is nice. To love. To dream. To dream love. To love dream. But logical, yes, ninja style, samurai..
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Hello everyone, long time no chat!
I used to be of the view of loving everyone, as taught in metta, as the best course for humanity in general. Over the years my perspective has shifted to loving those deserving of love. The reason for this shift is because some people are evil, and I don't love evil, and pretending to love an evil person is disillusioned. You might think that it is their actions that are evil and not the person, separating a person from their actions, but what really determines the nature of a person more than their actions and intentions?
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: teknix]
#27002774 - 10/25/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a lot more difficult to actively hate someone, than to love someone. It is taxing, probably emotionally draining and toxic
I don't hate anyone. Although I have yet to meet someone I love, partner wise...which is fine. Oftentimes I know that I don't even love myself, so it would be quite difficult for me to really love someone else. I gotta learn to love myself first I think....maybe?
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: teknix]
#27002843 - 10/25/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello, teknix.
Could you share an insight of so called "absolute perspective" of your own. For an example - VOID contains premordial roots, since birth of Universe until today many flaws can be forgiven, due to LIFE being BORN as not perfect creation. Then again someone, someone among the brightest ones sold themselves to repeated sin/crime, banishing us all from evolution (let's say Trump instead of Putin this time. Now their excuse is - but God /oj, Bog/ made us such temper boys, we have no hope of being loved, yes, we are corrupted, oh my, oh my, we are also part of One and we just cannot be better...
Now herecomes the perspective. You are now in charge of charges of your own HQ. You know Trump is corrupted by excuse, godworthy perspective - there is us, at computer ATM, being completely "dislocated muscles" for him. From My perspective it IS logical to aim hate from such viewpoint. That is how I work my hate. I also work out in Love, albeit it is a lot more freeflowing than hate, I often get stuck within perspectives of global evolution. So then I switch to plans of hateful spider.
If you also contribute to such lifestyle, even semiconsciously, it means you have witnessed our common unconsciouss already long time ago, and therefore you are enabled at address {knows.ratios.luck:global}.
If you know such underground community, do not hestitate to admit it, all we ever wanted was OUR+SELVES, but the truth shall never set us free (as in - I love (******) and perspectives..
But we must administer this pain to become stronger, I myself am very light and not a muscle packer, yet I surely know that muscles * perspective -> forces*/LOGIC. With strong MIND you may conquer BODY.
Thank you for share. Peace.
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: skOsH]
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Do whatever you do, you are doing right. When you claim you have issues with love, perhaps you have already forgotten that you love in ROOM 1, suffer in ROOM2, do Public Relations through make up ROOM 3. As a sum of all things appears you are a "bad lover". Tell me who is not?
That is how I spoke when I was younger (and perhaps less tainted with experience). Found it hard to deny love, when all I had was a brokenheartedness. Anyway, I loved to talk about it with people I did not know back then. They kind of supported me between the lines. We all know a lot more than we pretend to others. Hell, I'll (BEER x ALL SHALL PERISH x FISTBUMPO OVER MILES) for you to support people who say they not good with love+ing. Because what is this ING? Succeeding? What is success? A pill to isolate? Perhaps I am wrong but there must be a reason why wires have "insulation". Insult. Perfect lovers and perfect relationships are insult for the rest of world being different. I am not mad. I am just opened. I don't mind people being capable of delivering drugs to themselves, to medi(c)ate their lives. But, please, don't become "gravital" over the top. It is not nice to step on snail. Admit it. It just is not. Nothing else will suit as an answer. It is not unescapable and remarkable as *rainbows pooed*.
Thanks. Stay cool.
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Re: When is it logical to love? [Re: teknix]
#27002968 - 10/25/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hope you are well, teknix. 
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teknix
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VeryStrangeMan said: Hello, teknix.
Could you share an insight of so called "absolute perspective" of your own. For an example - VOID contains premordial roots, since birth of Universe until today many flaws can be forgiven, due to LIFE being BORN as not perfect creation. Then again someone, someone among the brightest ones sold themselves to repeated sin/crime, banishing us all from evolution (let's say Trump instead of Putin this time. Now their excuse is - but God /oj, Bog/ made us such temper boys, we have no hope of being loved, yes, we are corrupted, oh my, oh my, we are also part of One and we just cannot be better...
Now herecomes the perspective. You are now in charge of charges of your own HQ. You know Trump is corrupted by excuse, godworthy perspective - there is us, at computer ATM, being completely "dislocated muscles" for him. From My perspective it IS logical to aim hate from such viewpoint. That is how I work my hate. I also work out in Love, albeit it is a lot more freeflowing than hate, I often get stuck within perspectives of global evolution. So then I switch to plans of hateful spider.
If you also contribute to such lifestyle, even semiconsciously, it means you have witnessed our common unconsciouss already long time ago, and therefore you are enabled at address {knows.ratios.luck:global}.
If you know such underground community, do not hestitate to admit it, all we ever wanted was OUR+SELVES, but the truth shall never set us free (as in - I love (******) and perspectives..
But we must administer this pain to become stronger, I myself am very light and not a muscle packer, yet I surely know that muscles * perspective -> forces*/LOGIC. With strong MIND you may conquer BODY.
Thank you for share. Peace.
Hi!
I don't adhere to an absolute perspective, and Hate is not an aspect of me. If I ever feel gassed with hate I meditate and replace it with love, purging the undesireable feeling from the body. My view on feelings whether it be hate or love, is that it is a choice to feel that way, either consciously or subconsciously, but generally it is a subconscious choice. Bring the choice to consciousness and it becomes relatively easy to choose what to feel. The more feelings you master, the more energies you master, the more powerful of a wizard you become. I just don't see the utility in hate so I don't care to master it 
I do see how hate could have utility in pushing oneself to do things that would ordinarily be unjustifiable to a rational conscious, but I have little desire for such things.
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