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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26966211 - 10/02/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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However, the group’s website includes a list of core values as tenets: “Minimal Government, Maximum Freedom, Anti Political Correctness, Anti-Drug War, Closed Borders, Anti-Racial Guilt, Anti-Racism, Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment), Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment), Glorifying the Entrepreneur, Venerating the Housewife, Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism.”




On the Proud Boys website, they mention both "Anti-Racial Guilt and Anti-Racism". It seems contradictory does it not?



I think there's a lot of confusion about what "anti-racial guilt" means. 

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Their website: https://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/whoaretheproudboys/

So Proud Boys are "Proud" to be White (and Male) and thus do not want the guilt associated with being White. I would say thats pretty damn close to White Supremacy.



Where did you get that they're proud to be white?


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #26966221 - 10/02/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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They need to tell that to their leader:

'I denounce racism': Black leader insists Proud Boys are not White supremacists

I realize that just because he says they're not a racist group doesn't make it true, but does you saying they are a racist group make it true?



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White supremacist organizations don't announce that they are white supremacist anymore.  Cmon...you know that.



Yes I do know that, and that's why I said the underlined part above.

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They use code words like "pride" in our "heritage" or "Western Values"...

This isn't rocket science, dude.



That makes them white supremacists?


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 6
    #26966224 - 10/02/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The founder of the organization has called trans people, "gender niggers."  He said Cory Booker is "kind of like Sambo." He made a video called, "Ten Things I hate about Jews."  He spreads the white genocide theory. 

It sure at shit quacks like a duck....


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26966237 - 10/02/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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However, the group’s website includes a list of core values as tenets: “Minimal Government, Maximum Freedom, Anti Political Correctness, Anti-Drug War, Closed Borders, Anti-Racial Guilt, Anti-Racism, Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment), Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment), Glorifying the Entrepreneur, Venerating the Housewife, Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism.”




On the Proud Boys website, they mention both "Anti-Racial Guilt and Anti-Racism". It seems contradictory does it not?



I think there's a lot of confusion about what "anti-racial guilt" means. 

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Their website: https://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/whoaretheproudboys/

So Proud Boys are "Proud" to be White (and Male) and thus do not want the guilt associated with being White. I would say thats pretty damn close to White Supremacy.



Where did you get that they're proud to be white?




The "Anti-Racial Guilt" part. Thats where they are proud to be white as the majority of the group is White men. They want to end "racial guilt" for being White aka "White Privilege" and all that.

And as Enlil mentioned, they dont use White Supremacy language anymore. They hide their true intentions with terms like "Anti-Racial Guilt" which when you flip it means "Racial Pride".


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26966246 - 10/02/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I never heard Biden chant "Jews will not replace us" at Bernie Sanders.

Those are Trump's "fine people"


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26966437 - 10/02/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Falcon, do tell, how would you describe these 'Proud Boys' ?
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: vinsue]
    #26966522 - 10/02/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Falcon, do tell, how would you describe these 'Proud Boys' ?
:waits: . . . :peace:



I've never associated with them.  All I know is what I read, and it's a lot of different things.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26966525 - 10/02/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)





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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26966572 - 10/02/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The founder of the organization has called trans people, "gender niggers."  He said Cory Booker is "kind of like Sambo." He made a video called, "Ten Things I hate about Jews."  He spreads the white genocide theory. 

It sure at shit quacks like a duck....






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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26966694 - 10/02/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I didnt agree that he failed to mention white supremacists. He did so when he responded to a question about them. you are twisting my words, very clearly.

you made it sound as if he denounced other groups but excluded others.

I said he didnt mention any groups by name other than the Proud boys who he didnt bring up.

he denounced all white supremacist groups by denouncing white supremacists generally.




Stop trying to apologize for Trump.

He said "proud boys" he failed to say "white supremacist", that is a fact. You have admitted as much multiple times.

He denounced all white supremacists groups after the fact. During the debate, saying "sure" doesn't count when you can't actually attribute that to the group you are denouncing. The question was, "can you condemn..." or something like that, he said "sure", but he failed to follow through in the moment. It's like my mom asking if I did my homework, me saying "sure", and she assuming my homework is done when in fact I've not done it.

At a minimum, Trump should realize he's a dotard and stop making excuses after the fact. Every time he gets called out it's "fake news", "misrepresented", "out of context." Time after time. Everybody watched it live. He said stupid shit, it sounded retarded, own it.



joe Biden told him to address the proud boys. he's the one who brought it up.

he was asked if he was willing to disavow white supremecy. be said sure. that is a positive reply.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #26966697 - 10/02/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The founder of the organization has called trans people, "gender niggers."  He said Cory Booker is "kind of like Sambo." He made a video called, "Ten Things I hate about Jews."  He spreads the white genocide theory. 

It sure at shit quacks like a duck....



to be fair the jews thing was a joke video because everyoje called him a nazi.

not a fan of his just saying. he isn't a white supremecist and the neither is the proudboy agenda. again. Im not a proud boys guy but there are non white proud boys.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26966702 - 10/02/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil] * 3
    #26966723 - 10/02/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Why is it that the white privilege denying, racist, white supremacist
types are always the first ( and loudest ) ones to deny that these
traits and beliefs don't exist and are Fake News ?

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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #26966729 - 10/02/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What Biden actually said which was true is that trumps fbi director testified that antifa  is not an organization but an ideology. Biden also said he completely and firmly condems ANY rioters, violent protesters and all radical violent groups. Trump said "you just lost the radical left vote " He knew he completely condemned it but went to q rally the next day repeating the lie you're saying that he didnt denounce violent protesters and looters. He also said unequivocally he doesn't support any amount of defunding of police but Trump lied about it the next night and said he refused to say it.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #26966731 - 10/02/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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well if he really did add white in there then thats wrong and ill give you that. I dont follow him but my impression was that he wasnt racist. his wife is native American and he has kids with her.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26966753 - 10/02/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I understand his wife is native American.  That is not the point.  He has a long, long history of advocating for a white ethnostate.  Everyone I know is a walking contradiction.  It doesn't surprise me that he can love his wife and still have seriously racist views.  Even in the antebellum south, there were plenty of racists who were very fond of them "good niggers."


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #26966760 - 10/02/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The leader of the proud boys has gleefully shoved a dildo up his ass on camera. I assume the proud boys are either a closeted gay cult, or white supremacists. Or both. Either way, I don't want proud boys in my streets. They can do their each other's shit holes proudly in their own private bedrooms. I don't need a gay supremacist group in my street. I like being straight.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Kryptos]
    #26966788 - 10/02/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing wrong with owning a cute (I assume) squaw bitch to bear children for you. :borfase::chief:

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The leader of the proud boys has gleefully shoved a dildo up his ass on camera...



Is that available on YouTube?
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: vinsue]
    #26966801 - 10/03/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Probably not youtube, they don't take kindly to men shoving dildos up their asses, even on live TV.

Pornhub probably has a copy, though.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Kryptos]
    #26966940 - 10/03/20 04:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:  (the rest of the world watching American RN)

From a outside of America perspective:

Antifa is lost beta males and hyper emotional people who have been brain washed by Russian online propaganda psyops. One of the most successful attacks on the American way of life in the history of the world.

Like a mental virus injected into the the lost and forgotten of society making them attack and destroy the very country and culture that has giving them so much freedom they now go mad with it.

Proudboys: Angry white working class men, who see a threat and a enemy that is questioning and threatening their way of life and all they hold dear. Typical testosterone fueled mental patterns to attack and defend the tribe.

Democrats: desperate to sell their souls to win at any cost. Sell out support domestic terrorist group Antifa in the hope of gaining major support of all youth anti trump voters.

Republicans: Racist creepy old white people with money, who want things to stay the same and nothing to ever change. Now the Democrats have submitted to the madness of the Russian psyopsy the Republicans are seriously the last chance for America to be saved, even life time Democrat intellectuals are running to Republican states and voting Republican in a panic move to stop the mental virus from spreading and destroying their country.

Just what I see from my safe and claim country, watching it from the side lines.

If Biden wins: Mass enforced racial communist style mandated work place positions in all businesses (already law in LA). Anti trans/gay speech punishable by prison time (happened in Canada). Destruction of white society, open boarders, mass immigration of non whites. Controlled speech laws, government involvement in all aspects of private and business life. Deeper and deeper slide into Communism and socialism based culture.

If Trump wins: Antifa brainwashed youths mass melt down and turn to violence insurgency against "The fascists" (They are actually the fascists, So crazy) creating armed conflicts all over America, mainly in Democrat majority cities. Military deployed to seek and destroy terrorist groups, mass casualties and long back and forth gorilla warfare in dozens of American cities. After several years. The military crushes most Antifa troops and life goes back to semi normal, BUT as a result America is weak and poor, loosing its position in the world as the top dog, while China and Russia take the top position and start dominating world resource routes and trade, annexing small neighboring countries at will and doing as they please.


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