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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
#27109284 - 12/26/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
#27109290 - 12/26/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh is that it?
I thought you were arguing that neither is part of America as it is today.
But hey, as long as the government is spending more time on “public safety” than killing black people or crushing labor, then it’s not a serious problem. Mostly because the US government wouldn’t dare do either of those things and justify it with claims of protecting the public.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#27109481 - 12/26/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: I have a feeling most black people who are ignorant enough to vote for trump thought the same as most white people who were ignorant enough to vote for trump: well hes rich so hw must be doing something right.
Most people I know whonvoted for trump voted for him for that reason. Hes a business man, ergo they thought he should run a country.
The lefties on here never fail to show how out of touch they are with the other side.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN] 3
#27109484 - 12/26/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's really hard to relate to people who are intellectually that inferior.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#27109496 - 12/26/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Trump rose in popularity among minorities.
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bodhisatta said: Also it's out of context. Trump had the worst support from minorities of any candidate back in 2016. It's not surprising when the only direction it can go is up.
Some people had fortune over the last few years in their endeavors and correlate it with trump people are simple creatures
Trump won a larger share of blacks and Hispanics then Romney.
So he was still bringing in minority support for the republican party in 2016. then in 2020 his support among those groups grew even more. He lost because he lost ground among white people as a group.
I hate to break it to you but it looks like most Americans aren't buying the racism narrative. Democrats acctually aren't winning over a lot of people with this PC garbage and imaginary claims of racism. its a losing issue. They should stick to pushing their attacks on the free market because people gobble that garbage right up.
Then why did his legal teams try and throw out black district votes while protecting white district votes? Look no further then Detroit and the legal efforts to throw out just about all the black vote while not challenging majority white district. You're incredibly ignorant to what going on. Most people who aren't white HATE Donald Trump because he's fucked them in one way or another bad. Mexicans hate him for His radical border policies and rhetoric and I don't know ANY black people that don't hate him for how he continues to respond to cries of racial injustice. Bothncommunities are getting hit HARD from a virus he doesn't want to talk about anymore, were depending on aid he held hostage and now again is bbolding hostage. There's a reason you see about 3 black people at recent Trump rallies and a reason he lost so bad.
lol he GAINED among blacks though. so thats not why he lost. ur talking literal nonsense. that literally makes no sense.
many Hispanics are in favour of border control and Trumps border policies.
You are speaking about racial groups as if they all think the same. thats very racist. basically like Biden saying black people aren't black if they don't vote for him.
The USA didn't do any worse than the majority of the west under Trump with regards to the virus. there are multiple western countries with higher deaths ates than the USA. in fact people like Biden criticized Trumps early action against the virus. regardless stop making things racial issues when they clearly aren't.
How exactly is he responding to cries of racial justice?
He challenged the votes in the places where he thought he had a legitimate claim. you really think he would want to keep white voted that are against him just because they are white? no. that was about challenging the result because this was a unique election with mail in voting and social distancing from the vote counters and even claims of software tampering (which we now know there is no real evidence for but there were claims)
you aren't making any sense. the fact is that Minorities like Trump MORE than they did in 2016. not less.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
#27109499 - 12/26/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: It's really hard to relate to people who are intellectually that inferior.
I mean come on, nobody really believes in the policies Trump pushes they just voted for him because he's rich?
you want to talk about intellectually inferior look no further. Thats just silly.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27109544 - 12/26/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Minorities still like trump less than any republican candidate in decades. Not much to hang your hat on.
George w Bush got 45% of the Hispanic vote. Trump barely got half that.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods]
#27109555 - 12/26/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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ol he GAINED among blacks though. so thats not why he lost. ur talking literal nonsense. that literally makes no sense.
It doesn’t make sense if you’re intellectually inferior.
When black people come out in huge numbers and you lose the black vote by 89%, that’s how you lose an election.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods] 1
#27109559 - 12/26/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wonder what’s stopping black people from coming out in huge numbers perpetually
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27109564 - 12/26/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: It's really hard to relate to people who are intellectually that inferior.
I mean come on, nobody really believes in the policies Trump pushes they just voted for him because he's rich?
you want to talk about intellectually inferior look no further. Thats just silly.
They think he became rich because they believe he knows what hes doing. Thats fucking ignorant.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#27109572 - 12/26/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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All of Trump's financials will be closely investigated in the New York investigations very soon, so we'll finally get to the bottom of what he really has.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Brian Jones]
#27109573 - 12/26/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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And then black people will start turning out in record numbers for Democrats.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] 1
#27109575 - 12/26/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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ol he GAINED among blacks though. so thats not why he lost. ur talking literal nonsense. that literally makes no sense.
It doesn’t make sense if you’re intellectually inferior.
When black people come out in huge numbers and you lose the black vote by 89%, that’s how you lose an election. 
But he did even worse among blacks in the first election and still won, so clearly, the black vote wasnt the deciding factor. It was His lost ground among white men that made him lose if anything. not his gained ground among every other group. Quote:
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Enlil said: It's really hard to relate to people who are intellectually that inferior.
I mean come on, nobody really believes in the policies Trump pushes they just voted for him because he's rich?
you want to talk about intellectually inferior look no further. Thats just silly.
They think he became rich because they believe he knows what hes doing. Thats fucking ignorant.
Who the three people you know who said that?
I dont think the majority of people who voted for him did so solely because they believe that being a skilled businessman automatically makes you good at everything. I dont think you're going to change my mind on this. You really cant even imagine that other people have different policy preferences than you?
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27109595 - 12/26/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: And then black people will start turning out in record numbers for Democrats.
By and large they already do, and Hispanics, Asians, Jews and gays. Nonwhite women are the most dependable voters the party has. The whole white nationalism, populism, thing is a last ditch effort to save a culture that existed years ago. The demographic changes in the U.S. doom it to failure.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Brian Jones]
#27109608 - 12/26/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black voters overwhelmingly voting democrat =/= black people overwhelmingly turning out for democrats
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic] 2
#27109628 - 12/26/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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But he did even worse among blacks in the first election and still won, so clearly, the black vote wasnt the deciding factor. It was His lost ground among white men that made him lose if anything. not his gained ground among every other group.
Let’s do some hypothetical numbers to explain why you are wrong
Election 1: 1000 black voters 10% to trump
Election 2: 1500 black voters 15% to trump
Election 1: trump 100 votes Clinton 900 Election 2: trump 225 votes Biden 1275
So even though trump gets more percentage wise, he loses ground in actual number of votes.
It’s pretty simple math, if you don’t get more than 50% in a demographic, more votes in that demographic hurt you.
This is why suppressing the black vote was a key strategy of the trump campaign.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods] 1
#27109655 - 12/26/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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But he did even worse among blacks in the first election and still won, so clearly, the black vote wasnt the deciding factor. It was His lost ground among white men that made him lose if anything. not his gained ground among every other group.
Let’s do some hypothetical numbers to explain why you are wrong
Election 1: 1000 black voters 10% to trump
Election 2: 1500 black voters 15% to trump
Election 1: trump 100 votes Clinton 900 Election 2: trump 225 votes Biden 1275
So even though trump gets more percentage wise, he loses ground in actual number of votes.
It’s pretty simple math, if you don’t get more than 50% in a demographic, more votes in that demographic hurt you.
Yeah I'm sure more blacks turned out for Biden than for Hilary. I'm sure that has more to do with the fact that Obama remains popular among many black voters and Hilary Clinton is quite unpopular in general. They turned out for Biden not against Trump like he was implying. You dont even seem to understand the conversation we were having. You're out of your element, Donny!
I remain unconvinced that the garbage claims of Trumps racism coming from the left are why he lost and my point that he won a higher share of the black vote still stands and supports my position.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#27123228 - 01/03/21 05:31 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Nitrojedi]
#27123329 - 01/03/21 07:29 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Nitrojedi] 1
#27123444 - 01/03/21 09:07 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nitrojedi said: there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.
Exit polls are surveys of people who just voted. You’re saying that they managed to not only fake the vote tallies, but they also managed to get fake voters to give fake answers to pollsters standing in front of the polling station
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