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McDominator



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New favorite method of ingestion 1
#26963499 - 10/01/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello All. So I've experimented with a lot of different ways of ingesting except for tea and lemon tek. They just don't appeal to me. I get the gist that the trip is shorter and more intense and I like a longer, smoother ride. So I didn't want whole mushrooms, but I didn't want tea either so I figured I would find something in the between. For a while I did powdered, which is definitely closer to where I wanted to be. Then I got the idea.
Powdered, followed by a shot of lemon juice from half a lemon.
The come up was less rocky, the trip lasted just as long as it always had and it was just a tad more intense, which was perfect. I shall use this method going forward and I hope someone else out there benefits from this 
I store powdered mushrooms in little vials that can easily hold 3.5g-4g, a good size dose.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D2OHBHU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And I shove a tiny desiccant in each.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HZMTMW6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Buy a couple boxes of those vials and fit approx 2.8ish oz. of fresh mushie powder in a space about 5"Wx5"Lx2"H. Since there is very little air in the bottles after filling they will stay good forever. And this is great when you want to even out the potency of an inconsistent batch, like mine which were grown from MS.
That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.
Mush love 
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: McDominator] 3
#26963855 - 10/01/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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McDominator said:
Powdered, followed by a shot of lemon juice from half a lemon.
Taking a shot of lemon juice after consuming the mushrooms isn't really going to do much at all.
Your stomach is already incredibly acidic, a tiny bit of lemon juice in there won't change things.
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McDominator



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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: openmind]
#26963892 - 10/01/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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openmind said:
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McDominator said:
Powdered, followed by a shot of lemon juice from half a lemon.
Taking a shot of lemon juice after consuming the mushrooms isn't really going to do much at all.
Your stomach is already incredibly acidic, a tiny bit of lemon juice in there won't change things.
-OM
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PH of stomach acid is between 1.5 and 3.5. PH of lemon juice is 2. I didn't dilute it, and it worked! I invite you to give it a try.
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: McDominator] 1
#26963940 - 10/01/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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McDominator said:
PH of stomach acid is between 1.5 and 3.5. PH of lemon juice is 2. I didn't dilute it, and it worked! I invite you to give it a try.
I'm aware of the ph of stomach acid and lemon juice. What's your point?
What do you mean "it worked"?
You ate some mushrooms, of course it is going to "work" .
What do you think the lemon juice is doing in your stomach? Like what is your reason for taking the shot of lemon juice?
Do you understand why people soak mushrooms in lemon juice?
I understand why one would want to take powdered mushrooms versus chewing them, no doubt the increase in surface area will influence how rapidly the trip sets in...But I don't see a tiny bit of lemon juice in the stomach after eating powdered mushrooms having much of any sort of influence on the profile of the trip or anything at all really.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: McDominator] 1
#26964043 - 10/01/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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McDominator said: Hello All. So I've experimented with a lot of different ways of ingesting except for tea and lemon tek. They just don't appeal to me. I get the gist that the trip is shorter and more intense and I like a longer, smoother ride. So I didn't want whole mushrooms, but I didn't want tea either so I figured I would find something in the between. For a while I did powdered, which is definitely closer to where I wanted to be. Then I got the idea.
If you haven't tried proper tea you're missing out.
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26964174 - 10/01/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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openmind said:
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McDominator said:
PH of stomach acid is between 1.5 and 3.5. PH of lemon juice is 2. I didn't dilute it, and it worked! I invite you to give it a try.
I'm aware of the ph of stomach acid and lemon juice. What's your point?
What do you mean "it worked"?
You ate some mushrooms, of course it is going to "work" .
What do you think the lemon juice is doing in your stomach? Like what is your reason for taking the shot of lemon juice?
Do you understand why people soak mushrooms in lemon juice?
I understand why one would want to take powdered mushrooms versus chewing them, no doubt the increase in surface area will influence how rapidly the trip sets in...But I don't see a tiny bit of lemon juice in the stomach after eating powdered mushrooms having much of any sort of influence on the profile of the trip or anything at all really.
-OM
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Some people take 650mg HCL capsules in order to aid in the digestion of protein and that has a PH of 3.
What I think is happening is that on an empty stomach in the absence of protein the body doesn't make as much HCL while digesting the shrooms. By adding a shot of highly acidic fluid you aid in the digestion of the mushies rather than having some of them just pass right through you. Perhaps this is individual as some people have digestive issues while others do not.
It made a difference for me in the form of a practically non-existent come up, 0 stomach distress, and a slightly more intense trip. I'm basing this off of 1.5oz of homogenized mushroom powder so I know the strength and consistency enough to be able to experiment like this.
That's my theory, but it's based on the experience I had 
If it's all a placebo then it's a hell of a placebo and harmless and I'll take it for what it's worth 
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PrimalSoup said: If you haven't tried proper tea you're missing out. 
I know, I hear this a lot. But is it true that it's more like taking a shot vs drinking a beer? Because I'm not about that life. I use shrooms therapeutically.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: McDominator] 1
#26964771 - 10/01/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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McDominator said:
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PrimalSoup said: If you haven't tried proper tea you're missing out. 
I know, I hear this a lot. But is it true that it's more like taking a shot vs drinking a beer? Because I'm not about that life. I use shrooms therapeutically.
Shots vs beer? 
If you want fast smooth comeups, long peaks, 4-6 hour trips, tea is your go to. Don't eat them and try to digest all that chitin.
Nothing really to do with theraputical vs recreational use - everything do do with increasing bioavailability and extracting all the actives (from fresh for sure).
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: PrimalSoup] 1
#26965037 - 10/01/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah the shot vs beer is not equivalent.
I'm not sure what you are getting at by therapeutic use vs recreational. They are the same thing.
A shot of acidic fluid is not going to do much since the stomach is more than sufficiently acidic. You should stick to a lemon Tek for such things. That will make a difference. Psychedelics are not about controlling the experience, quiet the opposite. So smoothness and duration have no bearing on the bizarre nature of the experience.
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26966049 - 10/02/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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True smoothness and duration have no bearing on the bizarre nature, but I often hear it said that tea shortens the experience - but for the same intensity (i.e. same amount of actives absorbed) the overall duration is necessarily the same, as it's the body's process of elimination that determines that not the preparation method.
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Re: New favorite method of ingestion [Re: PrimalSoup] 1
#26971391 - 10/05/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The best way I've found for a smooth, intense, and long trip:
Eat around a gram or even make a few capsules and take those
Let that settle in for about an hour until you feel the effects, you want that soft ride into the zone
Then, make a tea of anywhere from 4 to 8 grams depending on what you're used to.
Doing this will get rid of the weird come up that at least I always find myself in if I just go straight to tea. If you're really feeling it and want to go further make another tea during the peak of the first one. This will give you an extra boost and make the trip last much longer than a single tea. You get the smooth ride initially and then the intensity when you're comfortable. I find this method gives much more extreme visuals than eating them but also doesn't put me on the couch like straight tea.
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Myco Extremist said: The best way I've found for a smooth, intense, and long trip:
Eat around a gram or even make a few capsules and take those
Let that settle in for about an hour until you feel the effects, you want that soft ride into the zone
Then, make a tea of anywhere from 4 to 8 grams depending on what you're used to.
Doing this will get rid of the weird come up that at least I always find myself in if I just go straight to tea. If you're really feeling it and want to go further make another tea during the peak of the first one. This will give you an extra boost and make the trip last much longer than a single tea. You get the smooth ride initially and then the intensity when you're comfortable. I find this method gives much more extreme visuals than eating them but also doesn't put me on the couch like straight tea.
i like this right here, will try on my next rodeo
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