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4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample
#26962593 - 09/30/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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(original transfer pics, look at all this crazy mold shit that was in a 1/6 of a semilanceata spore print)

been working for a while now with isolating and cleaning up a wild sample of psilocybe semilanceta, considered the god deity of psilocybes by recognized posters and mycologists like CaptainFuture
originally picked by MYSELF, july 20th, which is quite early in the season for this species.
here are pictures of my colonizing jars and one zoom of the mycelium itself:

this is the result of the 10th transfer i did in total of the isolating and cleaning up of the wild sample, which was a 1/6th of a spore print
its been quite the ride, i know some of you can appreciate cleaning up a wild sample.
you have all seen threads like this before, you have your reservations. fine. but another one was just started, this one.
all i want to do is to succeed in fruiting a SINGLE fruit and i consider it a success
its a challenge grow, nothing else</font>
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26962636 - 09/30/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am not familiar with the species but more veteran growers will probably like to see the dish that you inoculated with to determine if the wedge was healthy enough for grain.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: CocaineBuffet]
#26962707 - 09/30/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome. That's the spirit. I always wanted a chance to work with these. I might be a little jealous lol. Wishing you lots of luck with this. Monitoring. Same attitude I am taking to my exotics: a single fruit would be a big success.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26964291 - 10/01/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wishing you alot of luck with this project! I will have to try get back to my own ps. Semilanceata project to restart again. Like you I am determined to try the challenge nice little bit of fuzz going on in there! I always seem to have bad luck with popcorn or other grain apart from like 1 project. So I am definitely rooting for you here!
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Zenn]
#26964418 - 10/01/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i did research - several people here on the shroomery, have fruited these indoors
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26964434 - 10/01/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah they usually see like 7 fruits for their trouble. It’s cool when it happens though.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26964444 - 10/01/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26964451 - 10/01/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: Yeah they usually see like 7 fruits for their trouble. It’s cool when it happens though.
Also, you are one of them. if i remember correctly, either you or bod had some success with this, both inside and outside, including 1 bottle tek thread i can remember faintly
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26964547 - 10/01/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never grew these, my last exotic grow was zapotecorum.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26964601 - 10/01/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didn't cron fruit these? My memory is shit.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Asura]
#26964605 - 10/01/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah sorry maybe it was cron maybe. i'll have to look it up. when i decided to try this, i looked up everything on the shroomery
the deal is that in my country, people harsly believe that they cannot be Fruited indoors,
it would give me a lot of leverage with the right kind of people, if i could prove this wrong, in any way
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26964611 - 10/01/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was definitely Cron. I saw another one recently with weird looking fruits. Have to look back through posts after I get done with firewood tonight because that was 3most prolific grow I've seen of them and was juuust recently...
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26964616 - 10/01/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I remember Cronicr and Workman have fruited these. I think the above pic was from Workman
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Zenn]
#26964631 - 10/01/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now comes the part where you all get pissed off, maybe, when its supposed to be positive. Since ive been doing this since 20th of july, i made a small attempt at actually aquiring grass or grass like roots of a type which should be reasonable to use with them.

is there any reasonable way to use this?
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26964680 - 10/01/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I attempted to make cakes and use grass, but due to other factors I failed. I grew the grass first with the idea of using the soil and roots as a casing layer, with grass seed ontop. However my next attempt I might be using a substrate made from the sub in my carrot box, so it's full of old roots for food, but will try growing grass again also. As for exactly how to use the grass, I'm not sure apart from maybe growing it till it starts to die? Or try pull some up to see how much roots there are, then harvest the roots and/or grass to use in a sub? Just spitballing some ideas. I did read somewhere in a study that psilocybe semilanceata may colonise individual pieces of grass or something? I did notice something like this happen in my own attempt before..
Here is the link I was thinking of, maybe didnt remember quite accurately but I think its interesting/useful info:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S095375620981263X?via%3Dihub
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Zenn]
#26964807 - 10/01/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool article. Interesting how cron got his to fruit from just grain cased with peat (unless he had another attempt I missed). @smalltalk you might try casing a tray with grass. I thought about doing a big, wide flowerpot with grass. Seems logistically sound but this is one species I'm in the dark about. Might go a long way towards having a tray/tub that produces longer than cased grains would (certainly given the implications of what is said in that article + considering natural habitat/life cycle.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26969711 - 10/04/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spawned a small amount of semi myc, about 1/2 jar of semi myc to coir verm today to see the response and the health of the culture I have, whether its healthy enough to survive spawning even.
Unsure where I should keep it while its colonizing the coir verm - inside or outside? Inside are cube temps, outside are semi fruiting temps 12-15c. It has filters on its FAE.
Read about captain futures flush, and crons flushes. so from what i read there, cron had to use a lot of jars
Seems then important, to create a lot of spawn transfered a few new grain jars today
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26975910 - 10/08/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update 09.10
Semi myc from last post has peered through the top layer of a shoebox.
The look of this mycelium continues to thrill and confuse me
its wildly different depending on the nute
every time I see it, I have to remind myself its not some contam, white or grey mold
Here's some jars that showcase what I mean, and the shoebox.
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
#26979239 - 10/10/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How did the jar you used for the shoebox smell? From what I have found, healthier spawn tends to just smell like fresh mushroom. If there are sour, musty or other kind of off smells could mean there is something else in there. But obviously this is not a complete rule or way off telling. Just from my own experiments. And obviously I'm not suggesting someone go about inhaling deeply on things especially with suspected contamination.
Basically just meaning it could be a good sign if it smelled like fresh clean mushrooms, without any other hints of sour or vinegar etc (I once had a grain jar smell of vinegar because it was too wet, and as it turns out the myc died because of the vinegar/fermentarion).
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Re: 4shrom ukraine asshole - semilanceata grow from wild sample [Re: Zenn]
#26988987 - 10/16/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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3 jars, the shoebox, and the semilanceata "corner" of the shelf

the jar u are asking about (shoebox) did smell good, weak myc smell, or "nothing", which is also good in my experience. remember not reacting negatively to the smell, but being confident from it, not discouraged.
Got the semi myc peeking up of the already spawned box now, working on expanding the spawn, going to spawn the first next decent jar to big oat bags so I can have lots of spawn to fool around with
Peoples comments about the semperviva growign on top of the casing, made me think. What if its a bad sign, for a lot of species, that they are coming up the casing?
in wild nature, you never see semi mycelium on the surface you see it below the roots of the grass clumps
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