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Enlil said:
he was talking about criminals. Why do you equate criminals with black people?
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Biden said:
Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids
Maybe that'll clue you in about Biden.
It doesn't. How does what he said in 2019 explain what he said in 1993?
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Where does biden call black people predators in there? Sounds like peoplw are running on assumptions on this one
Or grasping at straws..
Again, I just don't think it is fair to be comparing today to 30 years ago. Everything was different, none of the climate remains.
Can you imagine the field day with Trump, 30 years from now will have?!
Fvking Trump looking dead into the camera when Biden Blundered, I could of punched through the screen and smacked him.
I shared with a Trump supporter how it was unfair, I didn't get to hear much of what Biden was proposing due to Trump interruptions.
His response was, 'But he had a point when he did.'
Perhaps I am alone in thinking, nothing of what Trump interrupted with should be seen as debate material.
He devised his own answers to unknown his-choice drivel posing as a question. But the responses were not on topic, and were unrelated to the question posed.
So I don't think what he interjected with should be given any regard, kind of like when a 3 yr old throws a tantrum.
What a goon.
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#26963706 - 10/01/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Biden said:
Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids
Maybe that'll clue you in about Biden.
It doesn't. How does what he said in 2019 explain what he said in 1993?
If you're saying he's more racist now than he was then, I guess that's a possibility.
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Enlil
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I'm not saying he's racist or not racist. I'm saying that there's no evidence that he ever called black people predators.
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 Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil]
#26964380 - 10/01/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok i did some quick research, this is what I found: https://heavy.com/news/did-joe-biden-really-call-black-people-super-predators/
In the article there is a video from 1996 of Hillary Clinton saying the term "Super Predator". Is that the first time it was mentioned? Is that where Trump thinks Biden said "Super Predator"? Did Trump misremember the past?
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Biden said there were predators on the streets. Whats racists is thinking he was talking about black people.
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Did Trump misremember the past?
Trump can rewrite the past any way he pleases. 
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: koods]
#26964567 - 10/01/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Biden said there were predators on the streets. Whats racists is thinking he was talking about black people.
Got a video clip by chance? Im curious.
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Why would an experienced politician make a blatantly racist comment. His words were calculated, speech written well in advance, and the statement can only be interpreted one way.
I can see the angle MAGA hats are pushing for -again-, and it's a dead end. So might as well move on now.
Here you are LC- https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4848645/user-clip-biden-predators-warrant-exceptionally-tough-treatment
Taken from this article clearing up the same- https://heavy.com/news/did-joe-biden-really-call-black-people-super-predators/
'Joseph' Biden used the term 'predators.' It was Hilary that said 'super predators.'
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They just assume that because of his "poor people/white people" gaffe that he must bw racially coding everything he says.
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A lot of people don't look at context.
The context of the 1994 crime bill, was that republicans were hammering Bill Clinton on crime, and it was definitely racially coded. The entire purpose of the 1994 crime bill was an appeasement tactic to defuse republican attack lines into Bill Clinton's administration, which at that point was pretty left.
It was a bit of a deal with the devil. Unfortunately for Clinton, Gingrich was making his career as a "no compromise" republican at this time, laying the groundwork for the current republican party. Clinton was hoping for the 1980s republicans that could still be reasoned with. I don't think he expected Gingrich to be taken seriously, nor for Gingrich-style politics to take over the party. In retrospect, this was a major miscalculation, because Gingrich started the idea of a federalist society type organization that would identify young extremists and mold them into republican senators. The modern republican party is the result.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Edit: this was remarkably similar to Obama and the Tea Party. Democrats get two useful years in power, before the republican propaganda machine takes effect. Same thing will happen with Biden. I hope he's ready for it.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Kryptos]
#26967362 - 10/03/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A lot of people don't look at context.
The context of the 1994 crime bill, was that republicans were hammering Bill Clinton on crime, and it was definitely racially coded. The entire purpose of the 1994 crime bill was an appeasement tactic to defuse republican attack lines into Bill Clinton's administration, which at that point was pretty left.
It was a bit of a deal with the devil. Unfortunately for Clinton, Gingrich was making his career as a "no compromise" republican at this time, laying the groundwork for the current republican party. Clinton was hoping for the 1980s republicans that could still be reasoned with. I don't think he expected Gingrich to be taken seriously, nor for Gingrich-style politics to take over the party. In retrospect, this was a major miscalculation, because Gingrich started the idea of a federalist society type organization that would identify young extremists and mold them into republican senators. The modern republican party is the result.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Edit: this was remarkably similar to Obama and the Tea Party. Democrats get two useful years in power, before the republican propaganda machine takes effect. Same thing will happen with Biden. I hope he's ready for it.
That's one hell of a rationalization for the Democratic Party once again selling out their supporters. 
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#26967520 - 10/03/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kryptos said:
A lot of people don't look at context.
The context of the 1994 crime bill, was that republicans were hammering Bill Clinton on crime, and it was definitely racially coded. The entire purpose of the 1994 crime bill was an appeasement tactic to defuse republican attack lines into Bill Clinton's administration, which at that point was pretty left.
It was a bit of a deal with the devil. Unfortunately for Clinton, Gingrich was making his career as a "no compromise" republican at this time, laying the groundwork for the current republican party. Clinton was hoping for the 1980s republicans that could still be reasoned with. I don't think he expected Gingrich to be taken seriously, nor for Gingrich-style politics to take over the party. In retrospect, this was a major miscalculation, because Gingrich started the idea of a federalist society type organization that would identify young extremists and mold them into republican senators. The modern republican party is the result.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Edit: this was remarkably similar to Obama and the Tea Party. Democrats get two useful years in power, before the republican propaganda machine takes effect. Same thing will happen with Biden. I hope he's ready for it.
That's one hell of a rationalization for the Democratic Party once again selling out their supporters.
Unfortunately, you are not wrong.
Democrats need to forget their idealistic notions of compromise in government. Republicans are at this point an extremist group that follows their ideology with religious fervor. You cannot compromise with a fanatic on a crusade, the fanatic thinks God is on his side and compromise would only piss off God. You don't give the fanatic what he wants, because he'll filibuster his own bill. A fanatic will reject what he asked for if it comes from the wrong person.
Democrats need to take the House, Senate, and White House, get rid of the filibuster, and start passing bills with a simple party line majority. If republicans get uppity and complain, ship a pallet of Kleenexes to their office and tell them to deal with it.
Then democrats need to start passing laws that support voting, and dismantle the Electoral College. If SCOTUS gets uppity, pack the court until it's 9-6 Democrat partisans. Pass DC and PR statehood, and offer it to American Samoa.
You can't compromise with fanatics. You chain them up and forget about them.
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Yes, Repubes broadcast thier "religion ",; there is a cunt hair difference between the two parties, though. Kamala quotes scripture and brings up god in alot of her diatribes.
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Religion isn't the problem. Well, it's a problem, but it is not the main problem, nor is it particularly high on the priority list.
The problem is applying religion and religious conviction to governance, which fundamentally operates on compromise. Compromise which is impossible to achieve when you are dealing with fanatics. And yeah, this started with Reagan's unholy alliance with Evangelicals, but what began as a political marriage of convenience became the republican party we see today.
This is largely to blame on Gingrich, however, because he began the application of the "no compromise with democrats, ever" approach. The end result of that approach is what we see now: Republicans frothing at the mouth over ACA, which is fundamentally the healthcare plan they wanted to pass. But because a democrat did it, they want it gone. That's why they can't come up with an alternative. The much more obvious example was Mitch McConnell filibustering his own proposal. The point wasn't the governance aspect of passing a proposal, the point was scoring political points and putting together some nice soundbites. Then when people were in favor of his proposal, he realized that "fuck, my entire shtick is that the government doesn't work", so he killed his own proposal.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Kryptos]
#26974974 - 10/08/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trump says he is going to skip next weeks debate
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: qman]
#26976255 - 10/08/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trump is in a tough position, he accomplished NOTHING in four years, so what can he campaign on?
Nothing? Oh boy...
The wall
Repealed the mandatory obamacare tax
Best economy ever
Taking on fake news and an overblown covid outbreak while keeping the economy high
Killes the crap trade deals with Chyna (yuge)
Brought back patriotism
NO NEW WARS
ENDED OTHER WARS <-----OBUMMER PROMISED AND LIED
Im pretty damn happy with Trump' America. He literally MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: meltdowner]
#26976286 - 10/08/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Taking on fake news
NO NEW WARS
These are two things I like about Trump.
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https://original.antiwar.com/mbenjamin/2020/07/01/trumps-record-on-foreign-policy-lost-wars-new-conflicts-and-broken-promises/
Trump famously summed up his policy as "bomb the shit out of the Islamic State". "When you got these terrorists, you got take out their families".
As far as fake news goes, Trump caused more of it than MSNBC and Fox combined.
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#26976455 - 10/09/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im pretty damn happy with Trump' America. He literally MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
THE MAN IS SUPERMAN
Please re-elect him on November 3.
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