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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Herbologist] 1
#26962152 - 09/30/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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What was his response to calling black guys predators
Same as mine probably .... how fucking stupid is this guy , that was actually Hillary Clinton that said that , 30 years ago .
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: koods] 1
#26962210 - 09/30/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Nobody cared the first time you asked and nobody cares now
You mean nobody had a good response the first time he asked, and nobody does now. Well, at least LogicaL Chaos responded.
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lol it’s a fucking lie. Why don’t you source or make believe that shit? Fucking shill.
Biden never called black peoples predators. He called criminals predators. Trumps is a racist piece of shit for equating criminals with black people.
Every day you post and support absolutely shameful content.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: koods] 1
#26962237 - 09/30/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: lol it’s a fucking lie. Why don’t you source or make believe that shit? Fucking shill.
Sure. What is your "good response"?
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LogicaL Chaos said: Trump's "Forest Cities" was funny as fuck. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-forest-cities-memes-star-wars-memes/
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“In Europe, they live, they have forest cities, they’re called forest cities. They maintain their forest, they manage their forest. I was with the head of a major country, it’s a forest city. He said, ‘sir, we have trees that are far more—they ignite much easier than California’… I spoke with the governor about it, I’m getting along very well with the governor. I said at some point, you can’t every year have hundreds of thousands of acres of land just burnt to the ground. That’s burning down because of a lack of management.”
What I find funny as fuck is that you just quoted exactly what Trump meant.
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Yes. It was total gibberish.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: koods]
#26962260 - 09/30/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let me help. He said Europe doesn't have the fire problems we have in the US because they do a better job of managing their forests.
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koods said: lol it’s a fucking lie. Why don’t you source or make believe that shit? Fucking shill.
Sure. What is your "good response"? 
What response is there? Trump made it up. Why should anyone have to respond to his made up shit?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Let me help. He said Europe doesn't have the fire problems we have in the US because they do a better job of managing their forests.
Which is the same as saying they don't have the problems that we have because they are better at doing their job than he is. You do realize that the U.S. Forest Service is part of the Executive Branch which has Donald J. Trump as its leader, right?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Let me help. He said Europe doesn't have the fire problems we have in the US because they do a better job of managing their forests.
Forest cities.
You do know almost all of the forests that burn in the US are owned by the federal government, which he has run for the past four years
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil]
#26962291 - 09/30/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You do realize that the U.S. Forest Service is part of the Executive Branch which has Donald J. Trump as its leader, right?
I do realize that. You do realize I was simply helping koods understand "the gibberish".
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil] 1
#26962298 - 09/30/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: What response is there? Trump made it up. Why should anyone have to respond to his made up shit?
Biden could have corrected Trump by saying he only called them predators, and that Hillary was the one that called them super predators.
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Your effort at translation was incomplete, though. That's why I had to clarify.
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Enlil said: What response is there? Trump made it up. Why should anyone have to respond to his made up shit?
Biden could have corrected Trump by saying he only called them predators, and that Hillary was the one that called them super predators.
Biden didn't call black people predators, though. That's a false claim.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil]
#26962303 - 09/30/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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In that case, your clarification was incomplete in that we've had fire problems long before Trump.
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He wasn't talking historically. He was talking about now.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil]
#26962314 - 09/30/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: He wasn't talking historically. He was talking about now.
You think Trump was saying the US hasn't had fire problems until now? I seriously doubt that.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Enlil] 1
#26962324 - 09/30/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I expected worse.
I have no idea what either candidate have in mind for the future. The moderator didn't ask what they were planning to do if elected. He only talked about the hot topic news subject such as the Supreme Court and the wildfires...
It was a bad debate all around.
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Re: The presidential debate [Re: Psilynut2] 2
#26962352 - 09/30/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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What was his response to calling black guys predators
Same as mine probably .... how fucking stupid is this guy , that was actually Hillary Clinton that said that , 30 years ago .
Yes, Hillary Clinton was actually the one who used the term "Super Predators" 30 years ago.
Interesting to note, though: Clinton used that term in the context of defending the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was co-written by both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and signed into action by Bill Clinton.
What was the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, you might ask? Well, it did a number of things:
- Banned assault weapons at the federal level
- Added 60 new crimes to the list of crimes punishable by death, including terrorism and drive-by-shootings
- Overturned a section of the Higher Education Act of 1965, which previously allowed prison inmates to receive a Pell grant for college. After Biden/Clinton's Bill, no grants were awarded to inmates for higher education.
- Allocated $1.6 billion to law enforcement for the purpose of investigating violent crimes against women (primarily domestic violence and sexual assault)
- Prior to the bill, DMV's published information on license-holders that disclosed whether or not they had received abortions, which led to Pro-lifers harassing them. The 1994 bill required DMV's to keep this information private.
- Required the state to track the residence of sex offenders for ten years after an offense.
- Allocated $30 billion to a police recruitment program, which led to the hiring of over 100,000 additional police officers nationwide
- Not all prisons require inmates to serve their full sentences at conviction (being let go early for good behavior or whatnot). The 1994 bill financially rewarded all prisons which required all inmates to serve 85% or more of their sentences at conviction.
- More, including allocation of tax money to build new prisons and manual drug tests for those serving federal supervised release time.
This bill was an extremely significant change in US policy, which opened up a whole new bipartisan debate on how to deal with crime. It was also a critical factor that led to a problem we weren't facing prior to the nineties: mass incarceration (a problem which primarily affects black Americans).
My takeaway from all of this information is the following: No, Joe Biden never referred to black Americans as "Super Predators." That was Hillary Clinton, and she didn't explicitly say that these "Super Predators" were black. It's quite clear that Trump mentioned this during the debate to try to characterize Joe Biden as an overt racist, and he's just not. However, all of that said, Biden was responsible for drafting a crime bill which led to a serious problem that disproportionately affects black Americans. Biden may not be an overt racist, but due to his political history, I'd hesitate to call him a hero for black Americans to look up to.
It really sucks that neither of these candidates are really allies for black Americans.
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