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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: KavalandiaShamasha]
    #26957446 - 09/27/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Should be fine if they're properly sterilized.    Distilled water?:rofl2:


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: KavalandiaShamasha]
    #26958095 - 09/27/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I contacted the vendor at they said the grain should still work just fine. I think I see some white stuff starting to form in the very bottom of my bag but it has only been a few days


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: KavalandiaShamasha]
    #26958111 - 09/27/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Best of luck!  I hope this excites you enough to try pf tek or agar🤗


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: TedsDead]
    #26959572 - 09/28/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Best of luck!  I hope this excites you enough to try pf tek or agar🤗




Thanks! And yes it definitely has. I will likely inoculate my other grain bag soon after I see how this one goes and then after that I will definitely be trying one of the big plastic tubs. Idk how much spores people usually use but the yield tends to seem fantastic.

And sorry, I didn't see your last reply. What about distilled water? I have done nothing besides inoculate the bag. But it does have some condensation in it.

I innovated the afternoon of the 25th and tried to make sure I massaged the bag really well after but so far all I can see is what looks like a small slimy booger with some black dots in it at the bottom of the bag. There are more black dots in other parts of the bag but I only see the slimy white stuff at the bottom


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: KavalandiaShamasha]
    #26959575 - 09/28/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, and has anyone tried "Strain Z"? Someone mentioned it to me and the little I read about it sounds quite interesting. But all I'm really familiar with are golden teachers and I've consistently enjoyed them compared to some of the other experiences I've had


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26960193 - 09/29/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If I were you, I'd cut my losses on those premade bags and just try to start with PF tek. You already have the syringes and all you need is some jars, vermiculite, and brown rice flour. I know I read all sorts of crazy things when I started and it was a lot to process the correct way to do things.

To note on a few things you mentioned though:

-Anything premade is usually crap most of the times. You want to make your own bag/jars/ect. because you know what went in there. As Forrester said grains should be sterilized. Also meaning you need to have a Pressure Cooker (PC) if you don't already have one.

-Using solely grain is what most people do on here. There's alot of talk about adding gypsum/coffee/shells/ yada yada but a sure way is to use just one grain to start off with. ex: oats/wild bird seed(WBS), millet, ect.

-When grains are colonizing you will want to disrupt the mycellium (shake, massage bag) to ensure faster colonization as well as to make sure you're not growing a bag of contams. If it doesn't recover, it's not worth spawning.

-Room temp is fine, if you are comfortable the mushrooms are to. And light is technically not needed but you do want it. Indirect sunlight or some cheap 6500k bulbs work great.

-Never open your bags/jars before full colonization. That's like a invite for contam city to pop into your hard work. And if using bags you can spawn them in the bag but you would probably be better off spawning to coco coir in a bulk monotub. Ratios are something you should research if spawning to bulk.

-Lastly, I highly recommend you read through Bod's Cultivation Guides. They are a great place to start for almost all the questions you might have. It doesn't have every nitty gritty question you might have about something super specific but it's where I started and I learn a fuck ton from it.




First of all that was a great post. I learned the hard way that buying spawn bags is kind of a Gamble. I don't want to say any names and knock any brand because I'm sure that they try their best to keep things sterile.. but on such a large scale and becoming so busy they're prone to slip ups at some point. I have pretty bad luck so I guess the odds were not in my favor, half of the spawn bags were good, half of them weren't and I can say that pretty positively knowing that my spores and the syringes were not the problem. after that happened I figured it was a good idea to just sterilize all my own grain and substrate it's easy all you need is a pressure cooker and some time and like you said you know exactly what's happening and what's going into it and what's not going into it and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Thank you for mentioning Bods guides I've clicked on them and just browsed briefly and I'm going to look at them in their entirety I just wanted to come back here and thank you for guiding me in that direction, all love.


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Re: First time grow spawn bag questions [Re: KavalandiaShamasha]
    #26960254 - 09/29/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I innovated the afternoon of the 25th and tried to make sure I massaged the bag really well after but so far all I can see is what looks like a small slimy booger with some black dots in it at the bottom of the bag. There are more black dots in other parts of the bag but I only see the slimy white stuff at the bottom




I mean I'm by no means an expert so don't hold me to this, but that doesn't sound right.. what you're describing kind of sounds like bacteria.


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