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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26960087 - 09/29/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think any of what's going on in the US constitutes a communist takeover.
Besides destroying history, rioting, the destruction of the nuclear family, indoctrination of children, infiltration of sports with propaganda, subversion of entertainment, and cancel culture.
So all this leads you to believe that a successful takeover is a serious concern? Some of these list items sound pretty silly. Which nuclear families have been destroyed and by whom?
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26960107 - 09/29/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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really everyone gets in on that game from time to time,
Trump supporters are not the ones rioting.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/salem-arrests-clashes-protests/index.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/08/29/portland-shooting-trump-supporters-counter-protesters/5672775002/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts
Seems that the Trump supporters were just as eager to riot as anyone else, and were arguably getting more violent about it. i.e. escalating.
Any yes I read the articles that showed Trump supporters were killed in the riots. I am fair and balanced after all. That being said, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Legitimate protesters are not rioting, agitators are such as the Boogaloo Boys, Patriot Prayer others, and less organized groups on left from antifa factions and what not(what can I say the are not that organized).
To end, and to wit: White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security.
source:https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: lowbrow] 2
#26960113 - 09/29/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: Besides destroying history, rioting, the destruction of the nuclear family, indoctrination of children, infiltration of sports with propaganda, subversion of entertainment, and cancel culture.
Probably, that’s the romanticized version, not the reality.
Listen, you have this all wrong. The so called "nuclear family" unit has been waning for decades. Progress is taking hold and the old ideals of stay at home mom or dad is long gone. Companies want blood from the workers and have taken ALL the extra stuff they used to get like 4 weeks paid vacations (or more), decent pay to live comfortably, and a slew of other things greedy corporate capitalist scum took away to line their own god damn fucking pockets!
https://qz.com/440167/america-is-no-longer-a-nation-of-nuclear-families/ Mom, dad, and two kids, in a home of their own—in the US, it is still the most sentimentalized way of living. But its frequency as a way American families live has long been waning. In 1970, more than 40% of households were comprised of nuclear families; today, that figure is not even 20%.
With the age of first marriage edging ever upward, divorce remaining commonplace, women outliving men, and more people staying single for life, Americans are now spending more years of their adult lives unmarried than married. More adults of all marital statues are not raising kids at all. Among those who do have children, family size is shrinking.
You say "indoctrination of children" like it hasn't been done from the beginning of our history here in the good 'ol USA to skew facts and leave out things completely to make history the way "they" want to so that it fits a narrative to "brainwash" the children so that they are good little workers for the hive. Then when there were sore losers from the civil war they erected statues as a giant FUCK YOU in the face of everyone that walks by them!
On Friday, in his speech at Mount Rushmore, he said, “our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values and indoctrinate our children.”
Elaborating on that theme, he said “in our schools, our newsrooms, even our corporate boardrooms, there is a new far-left fascism that demands absolute allegiance. The violent mayhem we have seen in the streets and cities that are run by liberal Democrats in every case is the predictable result of years of extreme indoctrination and bias in education, journalism and other cultural institutions.
Against every law of society and nature, our children are taught in school to hate their own country and to believe that the men and women who built it were not heroes, but that they were villains. The radical view of American history is a web of lies — all perspective is removed, every virtue is obscured, every motive is twisted, every fact is distorted and every flaw is magnified until the history is purged and the record is disfigured beyond all recognition.”
Ummm, excuse the fuck out of me!!?? This is EXACTLY what has been going on for decades you fucking fuck (trump)!!! Just because the capitalist corporate empire and it's ways are just slightly under fire you come out with this shit that scares people because people will do ANYTHING to "protect the children" and fear works wonders to stir emotions and votes! What about the history of murder and deception left out or watered down or even just flat out LIED about when it comes to the American Indians? What about this?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/15/george-washington-spies-lies-executive-power/ America Was Founded on Secrets and Lies Espionage, kidnapping, and the dark art of spycraft is as American as George Washington.
Sports and propaganda? FUUUUUUUUCK pro sports (especially football, basketball, and baseball  ) up the fucking ass with something hard and sandpapery!!! Cap off those salaries to about, let's say 2 mill and see who plays "for the love of the game".
Cancel culture? People are just mad that their bullshit is exposed and they can't lie as much anymore and try to control what people see and think.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: tyrannicalrex] 3
#26960130 - 09/29/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just rile everyone up by calling it a socialist or communist plot to take over - that way they can get emotionally charged & overlook all the bullshit that’s happened & is happening right in front of them in the here & now.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#26960150 - 09/29/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The pro-trump people I meet in real life are literally slow adults, easily conned gullible people, and people who are just uneducated about all the bad things that he has done.
Is it possible you don't actually understand why people support the Trump agenda? Maybe you don't want to understand the substance of the issues? Politics is marketing. Trump is not divisive. That many people choose to hate him is not a reflection of Trump. We can now see a lot of putrid rot in our society, and this unmasking is a good thing.
People say Jesus and Gandhi were divisive. The hate people engaged in got them both killed. A liberal friend of mine, a microbiologist who happens to be a millionaire, tells me he would shoot and kill Trump if he had the chance. He says it with a big smile. But he supports peaceful protests, which is nice.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 4
#26960173 - 09/29/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The pro-trump people I meet in real life are literally slow adults, easily conned gullible people, and people who are just uneducated about all the bad things that he has done.
Is it possible you don't actually understand why people support the Trump agenda? Maybe you don't want to understand the substance of the issues? Politics is marketing. Trump is not divisive. That many people choose to hate him is not a reflection of Trump. We can now see a lot of putrid rot in our society, and this unmasking is a good thing.
People say Jesus and Gandhi were divisive. The hate people engaged in got them both killed. A liberal friend of mine, a microbiologist who happens to be a millionaire, tells me he would shoot and kill Trump if he had the chance. He says it with a big smile. But he supports peaceful protests, which is nice.
I think people like trump -the non crazy ones anyway- because they see america's deterioration, or rather the revelation of its failings, and want an easy answer. Fascism has always been an easy answer to emasculated and demoralized people without the education or knowledge to properly diagnose the problem.
Trump knows his audience and exactly what they need to hear to keep supporting him, and he exploits them. Will he fix the country's troubles? No. Does he care? No. He is successful, like many propagandists before, because an easy answer will be a popular answer, no matter how true or useful it is, especially in a country with so many actively misinformed people.
Why examine the contradictions inherent in the system, why look to the effects of big money and lobbying, why think of the effects of being interlocked in a global system or the knock-on effects of endless foreign wars and bad policy at home, when...
In the place of all that reckoning you can create a simple myth about Immigrants, cabals of child-fiddling liberals (both sides get their fill of child fiddling imo, and they do it through the same enablers)or about how black american trans marxists want to 'destroy the country' out of nothing more than spite.
People are easy to mobilize if they're afraid, and most of all, ignorant
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 3
#26960182 - 09/29/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The pro-trump people I meet in real life are literally slow adults, easily conned gullible people, and people who are just uneducated about all the bad things that he has done.
Is it possible you don't actually understand why people support the Trump agenda? Maybe you don't want to understand the substance of the issues? Politics is marketing. Trump is not divisive. That many people choose to hate him is not a reflection of Trump. We can now see a lot of putrid rot in our society, and this unmasking is a good thing.
People say Jesus and Gandhi were divisive. The hate people engaged in got them both killed. A liberal friend of mine, a microbiologist who happens to be a millionaire, tells me he would shoot and kill Trump if he had the chance. He says it with a big smile. But he supports peaceful protests, which is nice.
Sure, the man who's campaign rallying cry centered largely upon calls for the imprisonment of the candidate he was running against, who assigns insulting nicknames to anyone who opposes him, who ordered an assault on american citizens to stage a photo op in front of a church whose owners did not want him there, who calls the opposing party (which more than 50% of voters either support/vote for or belong to) the "do nothing party" and continually insults them, who praises dictators while disparaging his own intelligence agencies and military, peddles dangerous conspiracies about his enemies, who continually refuses to simply say that he will concede defeat when the american people vote him out etc, etc.
Nothing divisive about any of that. It's just the soros media being a bully
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26960184 - 09/29/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.
I was going to say that sooner or later, lol!
Are you fission for a compliment, or something?
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: lowbrow] 2
#26960186 - 09/29/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think any of what's going on in the US constitutes a communist takeover.
Besides destroying history, rioting, the destruction of the nuclear family, indoctrination of children, infiltration of sports with propaganda, subversion of entertainment, and cancel culture.
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There are angry groups largely protesting for civil rights,
We already have civil rights in the US. What protesting? Im seeing riots. Organized riots.
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and an end to police brutality.
They sure pick the shittiest examples to riot over.
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Whatever you think of their methods or goals, I don't think you can argue they represent an effort at a communist takeover,
Im glad to see that you agree with me. But your no nonsense way of saying that its unarguable that they represent an effort at a communist revolution still might be arguable.
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or if they do its the worst most poorly propagandized communist takeover I can imagine.
Why would the communists tell everybody they’re supporting a communist revolution? Communism is considered bad in the US, but if you can exploit events from behind the scenes, you can stay in the shadows while the populace does the work for you. That’s what’s called useful idiots.
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Also I would argue that destroying statues is not necessarily the same thing as destroying history,
I guess you can argue it, but it is.
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and indeed that destroying/covering up history is also a major past time of fascists,
Compairing communists to fascists, how red pilled of you.
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other authoritarian governments...
Like communists.
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really everyone gets in on that game from time to time,
Trump supporters are not the ones rioting.
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especially Trump with his proposed 'patriotic education'.
seems like a good counter to the current woke culture that has been woven into the fabric of the American education cirriculum.
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If I see workers banding together to seize the means of production and overthrow the government, or even talking about doing so, then we can talk about a communist takeover. I think I'll be waiting a long while.
Probably, that’s the romanticized version, not the reality.
I apparently said a lot of great stuff. Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: psi]
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I don't think any of what's going on in the US constitutes a communist takeover.
Besides destroying history, rioting, the destruction of the nuclear family, indoctrination of children, infiltration of sports with propaganda, subversion of entertainment, and cancel culture.
So all this leads you to believe that a successful takeover is a serious concern? Some of these list items sound pretty silly. Which nuclear families have been destroyed and by whom?
None of those things have anything to do with communism, either
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: christopera]
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: koods] 2
#26960194 - 09/29/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you believe that Christopher Columbus discovered America you are a capitalist. If you believe the Vikings discovered America first you are a communist.
It’s pretty straightforward. It all boils down to third cafe history, either you believe or you are a communist.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Ezuma] 1
#26960195 - 09/29/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: People are easy to mobilize if they're afraid, and most of all, ignorant
Well said.
This is just history repeating itself, IMO.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: christopera]
#26960207 - 09/29/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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christopera said: If you believe that Christopher Columbus discovered America you are a capitalist. If you believe the Vikings discovered America first you are a communist.
It’s pretty straightforward. It all boils down to third cafe history, either you believe or you are a communist.
or, if you believe the ancestors of the First Nations discovered it first, you're Based
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Ezuma]
#26960213 - 09/29/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The options are communist or third grader.
Being an adult isn’t an option.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: christopera]
#26960223 - 09/29/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lots of people don't enjoy 'adulting'?
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Baby_Hitler said: You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.
I was going to say that sooner or later, lol!
Are you fission for a compliment, or something?

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Well said.
This is just history repeating itself, IMO.
yep!
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26960242 - 09/29/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Neither do most people enjoy gulags but that doesn't change half of the posters on the shroomery from being Mao's little sister
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: twighead]
#26960246 - 09/29/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mao's little sister?
I don't follow.
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Re: Will Trump get shot if he's reelected? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26960249 - 09/29/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess Mao had 2 brothers and an adopted sister who got executed by the Kuomintang
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