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Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? 1
#26959795 - 09/29/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm curious what drives anyone to vote democrat.
My Business degree and some extra units made me CPA eligible, but I don't know if I ever will need my CPA. I can already sign my own taxes. This training makes me basically republican.
My immediate family (3 members total) is sitting on four properties across multiple states. Each has a house and the total land is 100+ acres. I'm on the 2 acre lot (2bd, 1ba) in a densely populated area. The lot across the street is going with around 7 houses, so they pulled in around $5 to $6 million revenue. The lot two lots down did more houses, and I'm guessing they raked in around $10 to $12 million. Every time I look out my front window, I see around $15 to $20 million in revenue from around 5 acres. This ain't no fucking orchard in the middle of nowhere; It's primo land. I want to tell my dad, "Damn dude sell one of the houses, and get one of those super cars before you die." Whatever, I'm zoned commercial / residential. I worked basketball for a bit then I got into Real Estate / Property Management, but I know lumber, construction, and audit function to all of it. Selling this land would be a nightmare for anyone other than me. 6% Realtor fee? Bitch please, those rates are for a YouTubers with $30 million houses in LA worth around $10k in lumber & labor. The ultimate scam. I'd like to eventuality open a weed dispensary in the front yard with a garden on the side acre. I could call it the 6 million dollar weed dispensary.
I had to go on this tangent to show how bullshit democrats are. They try to weasel themselves into every step along the way. More regulation & tax on the sale of the land. More regulation & tax on the lumber. More regulation & tax on the construction process. It never ends with these dudes. BLM exist because of tax code. No one cares about them, because people follow up with the IRS to see if the deduction went through. So, having wealth also makes me vote republican.
To anyone questioning wealth knowing Cannabis, it was legalized in California under Donald Trump's administration. I just grew out some Skunk #1 x Green Crack x Mazar. The Green Crack breeder was so incompetent that I had to breed it back into some Chocolate Thai. I prefer adult Cannabis & not that fruity foo foo kid shit. Fruity coffee weed is still basically kid weed. I took mushrooms earlier in life, but now all my visuals come from money.
In summary, these are the things that make me vote Trump. An education in business, $15+ million viewable revenue from my front window, and an understanding of Cannabis never before seen by a Democrat. What are your reasons and why? Do you have a degree? Do you donate to BLM to lower your tax liability? Do you own land? Do you grow Cannabis? Why would you vote Democrat?
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player] 1
#26959801 - 09/29/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure if you start using parts of your massive wealth to buy crypto and buy drugs for the people here anonymously they'll identify with you.
Dunno if they'll vote for your candidate, but you'll certainly make more friends.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? (moved) [Re: Mario_Player]
#26959806 - 09/29/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player] 15
#26959807 - 09/29/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love your viewpoint. It's so god damn straight down the line; I got mine so fuck the poor, I rape the environment in my capitalist pursuit of riches. Folks vote democrat because they don't base their morals and principles around money and sucking the cock of the candidate that'll make them the most profit at the expense of other peoples lives.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player] 4
#26959810 - 09/29/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mario_Player said: I'm curious what drives anyone to vote democrat.
My Business degree and some extra units made me CPA eligible, but I don't know if I ever will need my CPA. I can already sign my own taxes. This training makes me basically republican.
My immediate family (3 members total) is sitting on four properties across multiple states. Each has a house and the total land is 100+ acres. I'm on the 2 acre lot (2bd, 1ba) in a densely populated area. The lot across the street is going with around 7 houses, so they pulled in around $5 to $6 million revenue. The lot two lots down did more houses, and I'm guessing they raked in around $10 to $12 million. Every time I look out my front window, I see around $15 to $20 million in revenue from around 5 acres. This ain't no fucking orchard in the middle of nowhere; It's primo land. I want to tell my dad, "Damn dude sell one of the houses, and get one of those super cars before you die." Whatever, I'm zoned commercial / residential. I worked basketball for a bit then I got into Real Estate / Property Management, but I know lumber, construction, and audit function to all of it. Selling this land would be a nightmare for anyone other than me. 6% Realtor fee? Bitch please, those rates are for a YouTubers with $30 million houses in LA worth around $10k in lumber & labor. The ultimate scam. I'd like to eventuality open a weed dispensary in the front yard with a garden on the side acre. I could call it the 6 million dollar weed dispensary.
I had to go on this tangent to show how bullshit democrats are. They try to weasel themselves into every step along the way. More regulation & tax on the sale of the land. More regulation & tax on the lumber. More regulation & tax on the construction process. It never ends with these dudes. BLM exist because of tax code. No one cares about them, because people follow up with the IRS to see if the deduction went through. So, having wealth also makes me vote republican.
To anyone questioning wealth knowing Cannabis, it was legalized in California under Donald Trump's administration. I just grew out some Skunk #1 x Green Crack x Mazar. The Green Crack breeder was so incompetent that I had to breed it back into some Chocolate Thai. I prefer adult Cannabis & not that fruity foo foo kid shit. Fruity coffee weed is still basically kid weed. I took mushrooms earlier in life, but now all my visuals come from money.
In summary, these are the things that make me vote Trump. An education in business, $15+ million viewable revenue from my front window, and an understanding of Cannabis never before seen by a Democrat. What are your reasons and why? Do you have a degree? Do you donate to BLM to lower your tax liability? Do you own land? Do you grow Cannabis? Why would you vote Democrat?
Okay. Are you trying to say something or just proving you are the trope you want to be?
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 11
#26959822 - 09/29/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well it goes like this. Educated people are more liberal. But education leads to more money which gives people a self interest to be conservative, so it's a complicated relationship sociologically.
There's extensive research that shows that conservatives are less intelligent than liberals but the relationship disappears when looking at people who are economically but not socially conservative.
Just so you know the parts of your post where you said, "an understanding of Cannabis never before seen by a Democrat", and, "Do you donate to BLM to lower your tax liability?", make you sound like a nit wit. Also, cannabis is not a proper noun.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player] 6
#26959846 - 09/29/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure I'd call a bachelors and a 2 br house "education [and] wealth."
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player] 1
#26959964 - 09/29/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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To anyone questioning wealth knowing Cannabis, it was legalized in California under Donald Trump's administration. I just grew out some Skunk #1 x Green Crack x Mazar. The Green Crack breeder was so incompetent that I had to breed it back into some Chocolate Thai. I prefer adult Cannabis & not that fruity foo foo kid shit. Fruity coffee weed is still basically kid weed. I took mushrooms earlier in life, but now all my visuals come from money.
In summary, these are the things that make me vote Trump. An education in business, $15+ million viewable revenue from my front window, and an understanding of Cannabis never before seen by a Democrat. What are your reasons and why? Do you have a degree? Do you donate to BLM to lower your tax liability? Do you own land? Do you grow Cannabis? Why would you vote Democrat?
I’ll vote Democrat so people don’t think that I’m like you . Your post doesn’t really make much sense at all . There’s no reflection of reality in any part of it . You can’t open a weed store in your front yard in California thats a clear violation of any
counties rules Mr “ I have superior understanding “ . I’ve been growing and selling for a long time legally in ca . Weve had legal medical marijuana Foreeveer already .
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26960026 - 09/29/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Well it goes like this. Educated people are more liberal. But education leads to more money which gives people a self interest to be conservative, so it's a complicated relationship sociologically.
Agreed. Most of the adults I know that identify as "liberal" are really just economically conservative people who are socially left-leaning (at least, when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights).
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Nonagon Infinity] 1
#26960053 - 09/29/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Well it goes like this. Educated people are more liberal. But education leads to more money which gives people a self interest to be conservative, so it's a complicated relationship sociologically.
Agreed. Most of the adults I know that identify as "liberal" are really just economically conservative people who are socially left-leaning (at least, when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights).

I feel as if most people are both "conservative" and "liberal" to the degree that their beliefs aren't a perfect reflection of one or the other.
You can hold both "liberal" and "conservative" views. To that degree, those people can be called centrists (perhaps leaning more or less in a particular direction).
I am a "centrist", whatever that may ultimately mean, to the extent that I think the tribalism of our dualistic political system has become pathological.
And that is seen with comments such as "How can anyone with a brain vote for candidate x". It would seem, at least to me, that both parties are manifestations of corruption. The politicians at the top seem to be interested only in themselves (whether it be power, money, success etc).
I know this doesn't answer your question, and that is because I do not like any of the choices that I'm presented with regarding the presidential election. But I doubt our country would ever present a candidate, in any party, that is truly altruistic.
So I will sit here hoping that, one day, our system will adopt Plato's "Philosopher Kings".
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26960181 - 09/29/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Socrateshroom said: I feel as if most people are both "conservative" and "liberal" to the degree that their beliefs aren't a perfect reflection of one or the other.
That's a very good point. The two parties differ from one another in some ways, and not all of those differences are trivial, but there are many senses in which the two parties hold the same views. The overlap between Democrats and Republicans is what I would refer to as the American status quo.
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Socrateshroom said: I am a "centrist", whatever that may ultimately mean, to the extent that I think the tribalism of our dualistic political system has become pathological.
I don't know that I would necessarily call yourself a centrist based on that criteria alone, but terminology can be misleading. When I think of a centrist, I think of someone who agrees with the political status quo. If you are really hoping for a society structured according to Plato's ideal, then perhaps you are not a centrist.
Indeed, there is a lot of tribalism at play. I believe voting for a candidate in the current climate is akin to rooting for a sports team, and is quite detached from the idea of changing the status quo.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mario_Player]
#26960198 - 09/29/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jonathan Haidt claims a significant distinction between the parties is differing views on fairness.
On the left, fairness often implies equality, but on the right it means proportionality - people should be rewarded in proportion to what they contribute, even if that guarantees unequal outcomes.
Although this is only one aspect of the differences, it's a big one. There's an cacophony of discussion about various aspects of "fairness" but rarely do we drill down on the fact people view issues of fairness differently. Humans are wired (thru evolution) to try to get as many resources for as little effort as possible... Many millions of dollars in pandemic relief are being fraudulently stolen by people, which is a topic the liberal media often avoids, but conservatives will talk about it. People are wired to cheat and steal. It's human nature. Notice in the workplace how toxic a team can become when there are slackers who don't contribute.
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#26960210 - 09/29/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Notice in the workplace how toxic a team can become when there are slackers who don't contribute.
Notice how the owners of massive corporations and conglomerates contribute almost no labor, yet collect almost all of the profits generated by their employees, and then pit employees against one another in hopes of distracting them from the fact that they are being exploited for their labor.
In other words, notice how a toxic workplace is actually quite beneficial to an exploitative person who owns that workplace. An organized, unified workplace is a huge threat to an exploitative owner, because the workers could then organize themselves and clog up profits via a strike or other bargaining movement. It's far better for an exploitative owner if they have employees that believe other employees are the problem with the company.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Nonagon Infinity] 2
#26960228 - 09/29/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Socrateshroom said: I feel as if most people are both "conservative" and "liberal" to the degree that their beliefs aren't a perfect reflection of one or the other.
That's a very good point. The two parties differ from one another in some ways, and not all of those differences are trivial, but there are many senses in which the two parties hold the same views. The overlap between Democrats and Republicans is what I would refer to as the American status quo.
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Socrateshroom said: I am a "centrist", whatever that may ultimately mean, to the extent that I think the tribalism of our dualistic political system has become pathological.
I don't know that I would necessarily call yourself a centrist based on that criteria alone, but terminology can be misleading. When I think of a centrist, I think of someone who agrees with the political status quo. If you are really hoping for a society structured according to Plato's ideal, then perhaps you are not a centrist.
Indeed, there is a lot of tribalism at play. I believe voting for a candidate in the current climate is akin to rooting for a sports team, and is quite detached from the idea of changing the status quo.
You may be right. I guess I perceive "centrist" through a philosophical lens, dependent on balance in all aspects of life.
I guess I'm not particularly qualified to talk "politics" as I don't believe in it per se. It has, like you mentioned, become akin to a sporting event for the average person. I feel that "politics" has become disconnected from its philosophical roots, a facade for the aristocracy to convince the rest of us how to think, feel, behave, etc with the intention of controlling us.
So perhaps I apply the labels incorrectly. Whatever I am, I'm a person who believes in intellectual discourse as a means to solving our differences.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Humans are wired (thru evolution) to try to get as many resources for as little effort as possible...
I don't necessarily disagree with this but is there any empirical evidence that this is true?
I feel that culture and upbringing have just as much, if not more, to do with our "wiring". We live in an "immediate gratification" culture and perhaps this influence makes this manifest rather than some innate trait of the human being.
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#26960437 - 09/29/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Jonathan Haidt claims a significant distinction between the parties is differing views on fairness.
On the left, fairness often implies equality, but on the right it means proportionality - people should be rewarded in proportion to what they contribute, even if that guarantees unequal outcomes.
Although this is only one aspect of the differences, it's a big one. There's an cacophony of discussion about various aspects of "fairness" but rarely do we drill down on the fact people view issues of fairness differently. Humans are wired (thru evolution) to try to get as many resources for as little effort as possible... Many millions of dollars in pandemic relief are being fraudulently stolen by people, which is a topic the liberal media often avoids, but conservatives will talk about it. People are wired to cheat and steal. It's human nature. Notice in the workplace how toxic a team can become when there are slackers who don't contribute.
Conservatives whine about millions being wasted on the peasants, yet remain completely silent when $5 trillion goes to Wall Street. I'm sorry, but conservatives don't have anymore credibility in calling out waste and fraud than anyone else. They cover for The Elite and cry about the crumbs that flow into Main Street.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: qman] 3
#26960505 - 09/29/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I live in one of the wealthiest and most educated towns in the United States and all you see is Biden signs. The fact is only stupid people vote for Donald Trump.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: koods]
#26960508 - 09/29/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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To anyone questioning wealth knowing Cannabis, it was legalized in California under Donald Trump's administration.
Pretty bad take for someone who apparently thinks they’re smarter than the average bear.
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#26960578 - 09/29/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The fact is only stupid people vote for Donald Trump.
Metoo just posted a link showing Scott Adams to be a Trump supporter, who gave a very good explanation why. He has an MBA from UC Berkeley and sounded pretty sharp.
So you're make believing again with your "fact"s. I long for day you make an honest post.
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#26960707 - 09/29/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don;t think it's a question of intelligence, it's a question of empathy. As OP vividly described, OP has a bachelor's degree and a 2br house. Why should he care about "little people"?
Similarly, why should I give a shit about little people like OP?
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I'm college educated but barely make it taking care of my parents, had to quit school with 2 credits to go because the opioid national emergency Trump declared destroyed the medications that allowed me to live a productive life after a tragic accident. Then trying to work through it fucked his covid response so badly that about 40% of America called it a hoax, were encouraged by the president to deny saying 99.9% of all cases were totally harmless and recently saying young people almost never get it or have problems from it. So now I have the same ptsd, anxiety , physical pain.
Have very low doses of Xanax and no muscle relaxers anymore which my neurologist said was not only nessicary due to nerves pressing on my Spine that were inoperable but that I should have the highest dose of Soma possible but he couldn't do it only pain management can. Due to trumps opiod,Benzo and muscle relaxer war through the national state of emergency my psychiatrist would lose his license if I where to get muscle relaxers or pain medication that my neurologist says this is necessary to live.
To answer your question yes college educated and voting for Biden
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To the mod who moved this here: was the delete button just not working or?
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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koods said: The fact is only stupid people vote for Donald Trump.
Metoo just posted a link showing Scott Adams to be a Trump supporter, who gave a very good explanation why. He has an MBA from UC Berkeley and sounded pretty sharp.
So you're make believing again with your "fact"s. I long for day you make an honest post. 
Trumps got dilberts vote.
I think you just proved my point. I really don’t consider an MBA an education.
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BLM exist because of tax code. No one cares about them, because people follow up with the IRS to see if the deduction went through. So, having wealth also makes me vote republican.

BLM because US cops are killing black people and receive ZERO punishment for it, thus in the eyes of the Police Enforcement, Black Lives Dont Matter. Are U sure you are educated?
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#26962066 - 09/30/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a master’s of science. I own stuff, including a fairly successful business. I’m not rich by any means, but I’m doing above average I would say. The way this has all worked out, I will for sure vote for Biden. Trumps policies have done absolutely nothing for me, and they have also weakened our country.
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So, let me get this straight OP.
1) You claim to be not a complete sucker. 2) You claim to have acquired a relatively small yet comfy amount of capital. 3) Cannabis was legalized (as you understand it) in Cali while Donald Trump happened to be in office.
I assume you understand how things set in motion long ago can play out much much later - and just because the dude sitting in the White House is X - normally actually has little to nothing to do with it. This is one of those things. But hey, delude yourself all you want, it’s your brain - no problemo! Also, how much did you pay for your degree? But oh wait - Oh wait a sec, I’m so sorry your paying a little more on your lumber buddy, good lord Jesus save us from lumber taxes. Buddy, in a democratic republic, regardless of which party holds the keys at any particular time, someones still gotta pay for it. Red or Blue, the systems in place and you crying about it won’t change a thing.
But no no no, god forbid others from capitalizing anywhere they see fit! (That’s what you’re crying about) It’s okay to do but Not when it hurts Mario’s budget 
Hey I got a great idea....Let’s all be sure to vote for this Mario guy! I bet he’ll know how to appropriately deal with the System aka the hunkering hulking insatiable appetite - ie. Both the real & the imagined wants and needs of the populace. What’s he got going for him? He ugh, he’s got a little capital, and knows lumber prices, and can construct stuff. Oh yeah, he’s pro-weedzors, keklul. He likes Donald because now he can grow the flower and nobody is going to hurt him for it anymore, now he’ll only hurt himself with his own stupidity.
Ok. Ok.
Because of the above, you simply cannot fathom how someone would/could vote for Biden? Ie - How could someone Not vote for Donald Trump....Am I getting that right?
Because if I am, You’re a joke. And a shitty one at that.
Also, stop making cannabis look stupid, it’s people like you we have to thank for it taking so long for the stuff to come to where it has today. Which, if you hadn’t noticed, Trump could give two shits about. Also, if you pissed him off he wouldn’t think twice about fucking you over for it because, as it is, damn things still federally illegal ...and Trump is still a grifter - selling his bullshit while masquerading it as filet mignon. Mmm, yummy! For whatever reason it seems to be the choice of dog food chumps love to eat. Eat it proudly while pretending it’s 100% American made and raised filet mignon, and whose proceeds then get donated to charities that only serve the highest good.
Give me a break...
I’m terribly sorry for being the one to shoot down your pipe dream about sharing a cool natty ice with the orange man and reminiscing about better days while overlooking a prosperous country filled with weed. And to Everything you “learned” by paying for your degree - there’s 100,000’s of guys and gals snickering bc they didn’t pay someone to tell them how to run a business. Now go on & get out of here.
You say you did shrooms when you were younger? Might be about time to start thinking about taking them again bc so far all you’ve got to show for yourself is that you’re just hogging up all the good weed farming land with your bullshit. 
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My Business degree and some extra units made me CPA eligible, but I don't know if I ever will need my CPA. I can already sign my own taxes. This training makes me basically republican.
My immediate family (3 members total) is sitting on four properties across multiple states. Each has a house and the total land is 100+ acres. I'm on the 2 acre lot (2bd, 1ba) in a densely populated area. The lot across the street is going with around 7 houses, so they pulled in around $5 to $6 million revenue. The lot two lots down did more houses, and I'm guessing they raked in around $10 to $12 million. Every time I look out my front window, I see around $15 to $20 million in revenue from around 5 acres. This ain't no fucking orchard in the middle of nowhere; It's primo land. I want to tell my dad, "Damn dude sell one of the houses, and get one of those super cars before you die." Whatever, I'm zoned commercial / residential. I worked basketball for a bit then I got into Real Estate / Property Management, but I know lumber, construction, and audit function to all of it. Selling this land would be a nightmare for anyone other than me. 6% Realtor fee? Bitch please, those rates are for a YouTubers with $30 million houses in LA worth around $10k in lumber & labor. The ultimate scam. I'd like to eventuality open a weed dispensary in the front yard with a garden on the side acre. I could call it the 6 million dollar weed dispensary.
I had to go on this tangent to show how bullshit democrats are. They try to weasel themselves into every step along the way. More regulation & tax on the sale of the land. More regulation & tax on the lumber. More regulation & tax on the construction process. It never ends with these dudes. BLM exist because of tax code. No one cares about them, because people follow up with the IRS to see if the deduction went through. So, having wealth also makes me vote republican.
To anyone questioning wealth knowing Cannabis, it was legalized in California under Donald Trump's administration. I just grew out some Skunk #1 x Green Crack x Mazar. The Green Crack breeder was so incompetent that I had to breed it back into some Chocolate Thai. I prefer adult Cannabis & not that fruity foo foo kid shit. Fruity coffee weed is still basically kid weed. I took mushrooms earlier in life, but now all my visuals come from money.
In summary, these are the things that make me vote Trump. An education in business, $15+ million viewable revenue from my front window, and an understanding of Cannabis never before seen by a Democrat. What are your reasons and why? Do you have a degree? Do you donate to BLM to lower your tax liability? Do you own land? Do you grow Cannabis? Why would you vote Democrat?
Short answer: Being raised on Disney movies and fantasy flicks where everything is perfect as long as we 'listen to our feelings.'
Real world: nothing is perfect and you just do your best to enjoy your short time on this beautiful Earth!
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: meltdowner]
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No, the educated people are going to vote for the guy who wanted to nuke hurricanes... *Rolls eyes*
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Educational attainment is now the number one best predictor of political affiliation, or to put that in words a Republican would understand: uneducated people are more likely to be republicans.
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Metoo just posted a link showing Scott Adams to be a Trump supporter, who gave a very good explanation why. He has an MBA from UC Berkeley and sounded pretty sharp.
So you're make believing again with your "fact"s. I long for day you make an honest post. 
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this has been debunked
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: koods]
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I have an education and money and I vote (mostly) Democrat.
It’s because I have education and money that I vote for those that don’t.
I believe that the greatest asset our country possesses is our people. We produce ideas, entertainment and influence culture worldwide because of our people. I want to see our people educated and healthy so that we can continue to produce the ideas that will change the world for the better. You can’t do this by being selfish. I believe Republicans are selfish and all this “individualism” is really just pushing people into a brutish “tribalism”: us against them bullshit.
I’m altruistic and I’m happy to pay my fair share of taxes if it helps the greater good. Self-preservation does no good if you’re the only one left.
And to the white supremacists, sorry, you’re wrong. All you have to do is watch sports, listen to music, read books or poetry to know that whites are not superior in anything except being empirical dicks. And you know it
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ShroomBoomBoomBoom said: I have an education and money and I vote (mostly) Democrat.
It’s because I have education and money that I vote for those that don’t.
I believe that the greatest asset our country possesses is our people. We produce ideas, entertainment and influence culture worldwide because of our people. I want to see our people educated and healthy so that we can continue to produce the ideas that will change the world for the better. You can’t do this by being selfish. I believe Republicans are selfish and all this “individualism” is really just pushing people into a brutish “tribalism”: us against them bullshit.
I’m altruistic and I’m happy to pay my fair share of taxes if it helps the greater good. Self-preservation does no good if you’re the only one left.
And to the white supremacists, sorry, you’re wrong. All you have to do is watch sports, listen to music, read books or poetry to know that whites are not superior in anything except being empirical dicks. And you know it
Both parties are selfish in nature and are run by corporate interests. Stop trying to fool yourself into thinking you're a better person for voting Democratic.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: yeah]
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ShroomBoomBoomBoom said: that whites are not superior in anything except being empirical dicks. And you know it
kind of racist, but okay
But it's the good PC kind of racist rhetoric. How can one simultaneously demand the exclusion of racism and have hatred for on particular race of people?
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kind of racist, but okay
But it's the good PC kind of racist rhetoric. How can one simultaneously demand the exclusion of racism and have hatred for on particular race of people?
Pointing out that white people have, historically, been oppressive imperialists (however snarkily it was stated - and I agree that it was a snarky comment) is not "hatred".
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kind of racist, but okay
But it's the good PC kind of racist rhetoric. How can one simultaneously demand the exclusion of racism and have hatred for on particular race of people?
Pointing out that white people have, historically, been oppressive imperialists (however snarkily it was stated - and I agree that it was a snarky comment) is not "hatred".
Is this behavior exclusive to the white race, is there something inherent in white people that produces this outcome? Is there a genetic factor at play here? If there isn't, why even mention it at all? I think you understand my point, if we want to remove race and behavior from the conversation, we can't cherry pick the issues when it comes to certain races.
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kind of racist, but okay
Yes, you’re right. That is kind of racist but ok.
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Both parties are selfish in nature and are run by corporate interests. Stop trying to fool yourself into thinking you're a better person for voting Democratic.
I don’t think I’m a better person. I’m not naive to their selfishness. The Dems just align more with how I’m feeling. I didn’t mean to come off as an elitist prick. Can’t help it 
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But it's the good PC kind of racist rhetoric. How can one simultaneously demand the exclusion of racism and have hatred for on particular race of people?
I didn’t use “hate” anywhere. Is a white guy trying to debunk white supremacy with a snarky opinion racist? Then let me apologize to all the oppressed and marginalized whites out there who are offended. (Shit! I told you I can’t help it!!)
I don’t want my bullshit to derail this thread. I’m genuinely curious about what goes into voting for Trump. Like, how could you? Is there a reason to vote for him that isn’t selfish? How can he help our country move forward instead of backward?
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I voted for Trump in 2016 because of his economic nationalistic campaign promises. Trump ran the strongest economic nationalistic campaign in over 50 years, that's why he won. He failed on every point of his promises, therefore there's zero reason to vote for him in 2020 in my opinion.
Does Biden have any economic nationalistic policy proposals? No, absolutely not. His tax proposal is very good, but there's no chance he will ever make an attempt to pass it. Biden will keep the status quo and tell everyone how much better everything is now. Many of his supporters will backup his claim and life will go on. The 100 year high in wealth inequality will remain the same, our corrupt police departments/criminal justice system will remain the same and our unjust wars will also remain the same as today.
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I would add that the economy, which is shit, is only going to get worse, and for a long time, before it gets better. I think there is a high likelihood that if Biden wins, a Republican will win in 2024 because of the shitty economy.
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The working class will continue to deteriorate economically regardless of who is in office. It's not going to change unless the people demand change. The US population isn't equipped to make real change.
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At least we won’t have to listen to trumps dumb ass.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mycolorado]
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Joe biden will be the best president this country has ever seen period.
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Mach z 800 said: Joe biden will be the best president this country has ever seen period.
No he won't be but he will be a million times better then the suffering we've endured under Trump. Not only am I educated but also I'm still a registered Republican and voted for Ben Carson and Gary Johnson in 2016 so they'll be getting a vote for Biden from a registered Republican.
I hope many more Republicans will vote against Trump because he has been possibly the worst president in American history. When Biden was in office I critized them alot but the problems I had with their administration added up to peanuts compared to what Trump has done to what I think is the greatest country in the world into a nation full of people that hate each other's guts for their party affiliation or skin color, a nation of people who thinks its a personal choice not to save lives by wearing a mask, a nation where the president reffered to a terroist plot to overthrow the goverment,killing cops, taking hostages as "intimadation" then proceeded to rail on her harder getting the crowd to chant lock her up and sews much more chaos then peace in national crisis, a president that rather make Nancy Pelosi look bad then help the country, undermines democracy, casts doubts on our free elections, you name it he's fucked us over in it.
Ask yourself something very important, can you take 4 more years of what's been happening since he became president? Is that the America you want to live in? 4 more years of denying the severity of covid19 while the deaths shoot up again?
When he asked what is your plan for America Trump responded by basically saying they already did an amazing job on covid, were turning the corner thus no need for a plan past that, when asked how he will mend racial tensions He said he already did a great job on that too and " has done more then anybody except Lincoln for the black community then Donald Trump has" that won't mend any race relations and there will never be a sense of being heard and understood by the president, one of those main goals is to make sure Roe versus Wade is overturned which is not the role of the president.
He lied to us essentially from day one about covid-19 and said it was "the Democrats New Hoax" then he said it would be gone by Spring and then he said it would be gone by the end of the summer, all the while knowing how serious it was, he is still saying that we are rounding the corner and that it will just disappear as cases rise at unprecedented rates. Do you want 4 more years of that? If you say it won't be 4 more years of what we've already been through ask yourself if Trump will really make the necessary changes to heal the nation.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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You're going to be so disappointed with Biden unless you lie to yourself that the state of affairs has changed in the US. News alert, Biden is no different than Trump in overall policy. Will Biden's PR be better when it comes to the pandemic? Yes, but it will still be empty rhetoric.
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ok im done trolling as a extremist lol but for real if he packs the court it will not be good we cant have one side control things. Power needs to be equally spread out. Idk how he can top trump i think people criticize trump to much over covid. We haven't faced something like this in a very long time. I mean people should be coming together not being divided.
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Trump's entire political strategy is based on dividing people.
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trump is willing to sit down an talk to people while biden runs an hides likes anti social an avoids real hard hitting questions.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mach z 800]
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Maybe you should look up what "antisocial" means.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mach z 800]
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qman said: You're going to be so disappointed with Biden unless you lie to yourself that the state of affairs has changed in the US. News alert, Biden is no different than Trump in overall policy. Will Biden's PR be better when it comes to the pandemic? Yes, but it will still be empty rhetoric.
As I said no he won't be the best president we've ever had but I think it's naive to think that nothing at all would get better. Bidens entire response to covid not just rhetoric would certainly put us in a better position then we are in now. Just by telling people the truth about the importance of masks and stress that the death toll is real and deadly serious 10s or 100s of thousands of people could been spared. A lot of the division, anger and hate in America comes from people angry about what Trump has done and the state America is in or coversly angry at what Trump tells them to be angry at which is democrats, republicans already hated democrats so they will justify it. Biden won't be wasting opportunities to try and unite people whether he succeedes or not is another story. He won't go soft of dictators to look like a deal maker. He won't hold up a bible by using riot police to plow through peaceful protesters. Biden will tax people that make over 300 grand during a time where tech stocks are skyrocketing as much as unemployment figures. .
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trump is willing to sit down an talk to people while biden runs an hides likes anti social an avoids real hard hitting questions.
Trump has rarely ever answered a straight hard hitting question and hasn't given any answers to hard hitting questions in years calling them "dirty terrible questions" Trump is the one who hates hard questions by far
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yes it will show a pic of biden avoiding hard questions that are important.people let biden get away with to much bullshit. Of course some will bring up trump but biden is way worse out of them to an its obvious gsmes he playing.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Mach z 800]
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I literally cannot read your entire op dude. All the arrogance and mind twerking was making my head spin.
Anyway, California's marijuana legalization did not happen under Trump. We voted on that in 2016 when Obama was in office and it took effect in 2017 before Trump even took office.
......Being someone who's "educated" and all.
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koods said: The fact is only stupid people vote for Donald Trump.
Metoo just posted a link showing Scott Adams to be a Trump supporter, who gave a very good explanation why. He has an MBA from UC Berkeley and sounded pretty sharp.
So you're make believing again with your "fact"s. I long for day you make an honest post. 
Education doesn't always make you smart. I know ivy league graduates that are morons
I live with an 85 year old man who has 4 bachelor's degrees and a phd in history that he only got because his school paid for it, who's a complete idiot and doesn't know how to use a tv remote or a smartphone.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 2
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Maybe you don't know much about how academia works. PhDs are completely paid for by the university in almost every case. The upper level degrees that people actually pay for are M.D.'s, law degrees, MBA's, masters in accounting, etc. The ones that are expected to pay off fast so you can pay back your loans.
PhD's require more years than those (except maybe medicine), and then you usually need to do a post doc, to get several publications out of your dissertation and get a leg up in the publish or perish environment. If good money ever comes (and we're only talking about pretty good money) it takes about two decades. Almost nobody would try for a PhD unless the University was paying for it.
When I was a PhD student at a Big 10 school, the only people paying for it were foreign students without great English skills, in this case Chinese and Koreans. All teaching assistants and research assistants get a tuition waiver plus pay for that work, and many of us were also getting fellowships which is just getting paid for nothing because you have high test scores to somehow make the university think your mere presence there enhanced their reputation.
So why are you living with this 85 year old guy who you have such a low opinion of? What's your problem?
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27002198 - 10/25/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Maybe you don't know much about how academia works. PhDs are completely paid for by the university in almost every case. The upper level degrees that people actually pay for are M.D.'s, law degrees, MBA's, masters in accounting, etc. The ones that are expected to pay off fast so you can pay back your loans.
PhD's require more years than those (except maybe medicine), and then you usually need to do a post doc, to get several publications out of your dissertation and get a leg up in the publish or perish environment. If good money ever comes (and we're only talking about pretty good money) it takes about two decades. Almost nobody would try for a PhD unless the University was paying for it.
When I was a PhD student at a Big 10 school, the only people paying for it were foreign students without great English skills, in this case Chinese and Koreans. All teaching assistants and research assistants get a tuition waiver plus pay for that work, and many of us were also getting fellowships which is just getting paid for nothing because you have high test scores to somehow make the university think your mere presence there enhanced their reputation.
So why are you living with this 85 year old guy who you have such a low opinion of? What's your problem?
I was under the impression that the PhD students worked at the University and paid it off through that means. I'm basically an unofficial caretaker. I help him out around the house and yard in exchange for free rent and utilities. It's the sweetest deal I can find and with covid and my ACTUAL day job being shut down, it's a godsend. I was only trying to show a point that education doesn't always make someone the sharpest tool in the shed.
Off topic but the guy has onset dementia that he refuses to get an official diagnosis for and I've had to show him how to use his phone and the remote approximately a million times. He is really not a bad guy but he can be really really really annoying sometimes. hH is stubborn as shit and still refuses to use his walker even though he has fallen several times since I have lived here the last year. He is extremely obsessive compulsive so much that it gets in the way of him enjoying life. I'm constantly having to redirect his thoughts when he gets into bad moods. But anyway it's really not that bad.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
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I guess caretaking for somebody that needy is mentally demanding, but the compensation sounds OK at least.
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#27002204 - 10/25/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I guess caretaking for somebody that needy is mentally demanding, but the compensation sounds OK at least.
He has his good days and bad days like most people. I'm just really really happy that I have the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want. Smoke weed and take psychedelics as time permits (I'll wait until around 10-11pm to trip after he is sleeping. We both sleep late which is perfect if I want to drop acid and be up late and sleep all day.). I can come and go as I please. I really can't complain.
I just try to have empathy. doing psychedelics once a month has actually made me way way more patient with him. Like the day after I do mushrooms I'm like super patient with him. LOL.
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#27013168 - 10/31/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Maybe you should look up what "antisocial" means.
I did, it redirected me to "The Shroomery" lol
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#27014948 - 11/01/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump's entire political strategy is based on dividing people.
I've heard that drivel for years and still laugh every time. That's like claiming the world is flat. Organizations like BLM and other crap like CRT training have caused the most harm in defining people by skin color and fueling hatred. Many people are too scared to discuss that fact. Nobody ever stopped to consider their holy cause might do harm! Jesus Christ - many people still say Obama is a black man. WTF?! How do you explain such stupidity?
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Trump's entire political strategy is based on dividing people.
I've heard that drivel for years and still laugh every time. That's like claiming the world is flat. Organizations like BLM and other crap like CRT training have caused the most harm in defining people by skin color and fueling hatred. Many people are too scared to discuss that fact. Nobody ever stopped to consider their holy cause might do harm! Jesus Christ - many people still say Obama is a black man. WTF?! How do you explain such stupidity?
I've also noticed more often than not, people against Trump seem to exemplify all the personality traits they claim they hate about him, and wonder why nobody wants to employ or associate with them, without a hint of fucking irony.
I was also able to employ two new people this year because of what he did for me in taxes as a small business.
We don't talk about that privilege, though.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
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The reason people say Obama is black is because of our racist heritage. The same heritage that has created and maintained the white privilege present in our society. Discussing race and accepting the way it has created disparity in our society need not be divisive unless people choose to make it so. It's not the acknowledgement of the damage caused by the imaginary notion of race that creates the division. It's the vehement denial of that damage by those who see themselves as potentially losing the advantages that they've enjoyed as a result of systemic racism.
I have enjoyed white privilege my whole life. I carry no guilt about that nor do I think anyone else should. I do, however, recognize that having a just society is better than having one that is unjust, even if the current injustice is in my favor. For that reason, I'm more than willing to give up my privilege to move closer to justice.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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Trump's entire political strategy is based on dividing people.
I've heard that drivel for years and still laugh every time. That's like claiming the world is flat. Organizations like BLM and other crap like CRT training have caused the most harm in defining people by skin color and fueling hatred. Many people are too scared to discuss that fact. Nobody ever stopped to consider their holy cause might do harm! Jesus Christ - many people still say Obama is a black man. WTF?! How do you explain such stupidity?
I've also noticed more often than not, people against Trump seem to exemplify all the personality traits they claim they hate about him, and wonder why nobody wants to employ or associate with them, without a hint of fucking irony.
I was also able to employ two new people this year because of what he did for me in taxes as a small business.
We don't talk about that privilege, though.
Either your business has the revenue to afford employees or it doesn’t. The value of an employee as an expense to offset profits actually decreases when your tax rate goes down.
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: koods]
#27015031 - 11/01/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wont vote for biden. He sounds like he is Spun om meth. 
Koodsy, are you stil fucking Sheekle
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Trump's entire political strategy is based on dividing people.
I've heard that drivel for years and still laugh every time. That's like claiming the world is flat. Organizations like BLM and other crap like CRT training have caused the most harm in defining people by skin color and fueling hatred. Many people are too scared to discuss that fact. Nobody ever stopped to consider their holy cause might do harm! Jesus Christ - many people still say Obama is a black man. WTF?! How do you explain such stupidity?
I've also noticed more often than not, people against Trump seem to exemplify all the personality traits they claim they hate about him, and wonder why nobody wants to employ or associate with them, without a hint of fucking irony.
I was also able to employ two new people this year because of what he did for me in taxes as a small business.
We don't talk about that privilege, though.
Either your business has the revenue to afford employees or it doesn’t. The value of an employee as an expense to offset profits actually decreases when your tax rate goes down.
Because things like growth don't exist and the economy is in a vacuum.
No way I could have grown over a year via increase in sales revenue.
Why would you care if I decide to have less personal profit in order to employ some people?
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Re: Is anyone with education or wealth voting for Biden? [Re: Loaded Shaman] 1
#27015057 - 11/01/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You like coke or pepsi? They're both awful for you. Which senile sexual predator will we chose? A victory for either side seems like a loss to me. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
The way I see it the world banks run the whole show anyways, so either dumb puppet we end up with isn't going to really matter. The game is rigged and voting is an illusion of power and choice.
I have no wealth or degrees though, so take that how you want to.
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