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Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) * 4
    #26959691 - 09/29/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Saw some old threads on the possibility of this, from very long ago, but no clear directions, and no update. I did it, it works.
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You can make a liquid extract tincture / liquor of shrooms that will make consumption easy, allow for disguised storage, hits quick, and is less likely to make you sick than eating dry shrooms.

Take any amount of cracker-dry shrooms, and grind them up in a coffee grinder. Wear a mask so you don't inhale the powder, it will be like inhaling dust and irritate your lungs.

Put the powder in a glass jar and pour boiling water on top of it. Use about 10x as much water as you have shrooms. Shake. Let sit for 12 hours. Shake from time to time when you think about it.

After 12 hours, use fine plastic window screen to filter it. Save the mash in bowl. Save the filtered liquid in another bowl, something with a lid, like a food storage container.

Then filter with a clean pantyhose leg. Squeeze the hose out to get the last drops. Confine the liquid in the food storage container. Save the mash.

Then get some Everclear or other brand of very high-ethanol liquor. Do NOT use any denatured alcohol. Do NOT use Isopropyl alcohol, methanol, acetone, ether or anything else. They aren't needed, and are toxic. Psilocybin is very soluble in ethanol. Psilocin and baeocystin are soluble in warm water.

Use clear alcohol made for human drinking, something that's over 150 proof (75% alcohol). Pour 5 x as much alcohol as you have shroom mash into the jar again. Don't heat the alcohol. Just let sit for 12 hours, shake every few hours when you think about it.

Filter with the screen, and then with the pantyhose. Pour the filtered alcohol shroom juice into the container with your earlier extract you did with hot water.

At this point you can try filtering all of it with a coffee filter, but it will take a long time to go through, and you may have to stir the inside of the funnel to get it all. Or if you know how to do vacuum filtration, try that. Read up on it. Could technically be done at home with a vacuum cleaner and some tubes and a flask. Or empty large bottle and duct tape.

Or skip that step and have slightly swampy liquid.

Pour the combined liquid in a non-metallic flat tray or bowl where no humans, animals, or bugs will find it. You need something with a large surface area. You can use the outside of the lid from a tote for this if you don't have a glass tray.  Cover with a screen to keep bugs out.

You want to evaporate off most, but not all of the alcohol, and a lot of the water.

Let all of it evaporate for another six hours, or until the liquid has gone down  in volume a bit. You can blow a fan over it to help evaporate some of it more quickly.

You can flush the expired mash. Alcohol and heat have rendered it non-viable and it will not likely grow in your sewer pipes.

The mix will be purple when you're making it, and brown within a few hours. Means it's probably losing some potency from oxidation, but also seems more violable when you drink it.

Now mix in a pinch of pure vitamin C powder to the alcohol / water / shroom juice. This will help preserve the liquid, and also seems to potentiate it.

Shake it up, and store in a non-clear bottle in a cool dark place. Shake before use, drink as desired. Base your dose on amount of shrooms used. i.e. if you like to take 2 grams of dried shrooms, and you extracted 20 grams of shrooms, use 1/10th of the liquid you have.

I tried this, and it's even  more potent equivalent amount of dried, and hits quicker. Not sure how long it's good for, but we'll see. I did it with 5 grams of cracker-dry shrooms. Drank 2/5 of it. Wow!

Tastes foul, but works. People could experiment with flavourings, but I just choke it down.

This liquid might also be good for cooking. Would at least make it easier to spread more evenly in the food than using powder.

You could also mix shroom cocktails by adding it to fruit juice. Nice with ice on a late summer evening....

Keep a canteen of it in your bug-out bag. It will help you and your troops think fast and see in the dark for the coming end times. Or just fun for looking at the night sky, if everything works out.

It just might.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 2
    #26960628 - 09/29/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely going to hang onto this thank you


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: CrashTest]
    #26960666 - 09/29/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Definitely going to hang onto this thank you




Cool. Let me know what you think.

My only issue with it is I hate booze. lol. But you can evaporate off most of the alcohol.

I'd leave a little in so no germs grow in it.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26960817 - 09/29/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Definitely going to hang onto this thank you




Cool. Let me know what you think.

My only issue with it is I hate booze. lol. But you can evaporate off most of the alcohol.

I'd leave a little in so no germs grow in it.



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Definitely going to hang onto this thank you




Cool. Let me know what you think.

My only issue with it is I hate booze. lol. But you can evaporate off most of the alcohol.

I'd leave a little in so no germs grow in it.




I don’t know if I will try it soon, but maybe someday. I will only make tea these days, and it seems too easy to even be worth doing anything else, however let me know how this works out for you long term storage wise. I’d be interested in the viability of it after 6-12 months. A really cool and inconspicuous way to store your shrooms


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: CrashTest]
    #26966120 - 10/02/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

has anyone repeated this tek and had good results?


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: GoodDoctor06]
    #26966148 - 10/02/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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has anyone repeated this tek and had good results?




I just did this. worked the next day.

If you wanna try with just a few grams, let us know. I made some to test at 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, and a year. Will add results here.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: GoodDoctor06]
    #26966179 - 10/02/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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has anyone repeated this tek and had good results?




PF had similar tek, I think called "god crystals" but claimed to get it to pure psylocybin and psilocin crystals. Several smart people, including here,  have debunked, and said the crystals were largely proteins and such, not pure psilo indoles.

Tincture works, and is easy. I'm just concerned about degradation over long term. Time will tell.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 2
    #26966198 - 10/02/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I do a similar thing with a vacuum extractor. I have yet to test longevity so thanks for the info. I always love that psilocin-blue. Check out the color difference from the ground slurry to the deep blue.




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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: GoodDoctor06]
    #26966241 - 10/02/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I do a similar thing with a vacuum extractor. I have yet to test longevity so thanks for the info. I always love that psilocin-blue. Check out the color difference from the ground slurry to the deep blue.







Cool. And thank you.

Does it store well?

Do you add vitamin C?

Does yours turn brown the next day? Mine did, but still worked.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #26968182 - 10/03/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I cant figure how to do Vit C. Do you just throw a tablet in?



I pour some lemon juice in the mash of shroom debris to try and get that last bit of magic out. I've never kept it longer than a few hours.

I'll be looking forward to your longevity report.

I wonder if there is a way to get an idea of how potent it is with a home test. I've put some of the blue juice in a rotary evaporator and spun it to down to power.

I test a bit with the EHRLICH reagent and get some soft purple (some indole present)  If I run the MECKE reagent it comes out  a warm white ..... sugar.



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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: GoodDoctor06]
    #26968287 - 10/03/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I cant figure how to do Vit C. Do you just throw a tablet in?



I pour some lemon juice in the mash of shroom debris to try and get that last bit of magic out. I've never kept it longer than a few hours.

I'll be looking forward to your longevity report.

I wonder if there is a way to get an idea of how potent it is with a home test. I've put some of the blue juice in a rotary evaporator and spun it to down to power.

I test a bit with the EHRLICH reagent and get some soft purple (some indole present)  If I run the MECKE reagent it comes out  a warm white ..... sugar.



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I have vitamin C capsules, I think they are pure inside. Crystal powder. I opened one up and poured it in.

I guess a tablet you could crush up.

I don't have a basis for the vit C, but it's hearsay that sounds right. May have come from a tek for some herbal non-psychedelic tincture I heard 40 years ago. Can't remember.

Vit C is used, I think, as a preservative in some foods. Also, isn't there something with taking lemons and shrooms to potentiate? Might be some sort of ascorbic acid voodoo.

Can't hurt. Maybe. I mean, didn't harm me, and the thing I made was potent, maybe more potent than the shrooms alone, but I took it a day after I made it. Will be interested to see long term keeping power with this. 

Let us know your experience, and if you want to keep some with a date on it and try it in a month or three, that will be useful. Esp if I forget.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26982008 - 10/12/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Similar TEK to Forrester's Double extraction method


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26982068 - 10/12/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't have a basis for the vit C, but it's hearsay that sounds right. May have come from a tek for some herbal non-psychedelic tincture I heard 40 years ago. Can't remember.

Vit C is used, I think, as a preservative in some foods. Also, isn't there something with taking lemons and shrooms to potentiate? Might be some sort of ascorbic acid voodoo.

Can't hurt. Maybe. I mean, didn't harm me, and the thing I made was potent, maybe more potent than the shrooms alone, but I took it a day after I made it. Will be interested to see long term keeping power with this. 





Haha, it's not voodoo or imagination or bad memory on your part, ascorbic acid is an acid, just like some of us use (or did) to extract DMT or other alkaloids from their host species.  Whether or not it's necessary or helpful in extracting actives from mushrooms I don't know, but I'd agree it likely is (re: lemon tek mostly).  I would also agree that it can't do anything but help in preservation, although again I don't know if it's any better than alcohol or not.  I would like to do some experiments in this to find out, maybe some day I'll get around to it...


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Forrester]
    #26982883 - 10/13/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)



ive tried psilocybin extract like the one in the picture.

sadly didnt produce the effects i wanted, very underwhelming


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: moonzo]
    #26983141 - 10/13/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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ive tried psilocybin extract like the one in the picture.

sadly didnt produce the effects i wanted, very underwhelming




How was it made?

Was it a dark web purchase?


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #26984065 - 10/13/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i got it from someone irl, no idea how it was made/extracted.

it had a veryyyy strong scent of mushrooms + alcohol though.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: moonzo]
    #26984297 - 10/13/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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i got it from someone irl, no idea how it was made/extracted.

it had a veryyyy strong scent of mushrooms + alcohol though.




K. Good to know, but since the origin process is unknown, it doesn't have bearing on the stuff I made, which does work.

Still waiting for enough time to pass to see how it works in a month, 3 months, a year.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #26997526 - 10/22/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

interested to know if there is much degradation


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Zombie-ant] * 1
    #27021317 - 11/04/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A lot. After about a month, it's about half as strong .


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27022489 - 11/05/20 12:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't have a basis for the vit C, but it's hearsay that sounds right. May have come from a tek for some herbal non-psychedelic tincture I heard 40 years ago. Can't remember.

Vit C is used, I think, as a preservative in some foods. Also, isn't there something with taking lemons and shrooms to potentiate? Might be some sort of ascorbic acid voodoo.

Can't hurt. Maybe. I mean, didn't harm me, and the thing I made was potent, maybe more potent than the shrooms alone, but I took it a day after I made it. Will be interested to see long term keeping power with this. 





Haha, it's not voodoo or imagination or bad memory on your part, ascorbic acid is an acid, just like some of us use (or did) to extract DMT or other alkaloids from their host species.  Whether or not it's necessary or helpful in extracting actives from mushrooms I don't know, but I'd agree it likely is (re: lemon tek mostly).  I would also agree that it can't do anything but help in preservation, although again I don't know if it's any better than alcohol or not.  I would like to do some experiments in this to find out, maybe some day I'll get around to it...




What a coincidence that you bring that up because I've been wondering about it lately. I generally make lemon tek 50% lemon juice and 50% water and there is no noticeable degradation after 4-5 weeks in the fridge. The last batch I cut lemon juice down to 25% and potency was definitely dropping by 2 weeks and was pretty low by 4-5 to the point that each gram equivalent felt like 0.2-0.3. Anecdotal at best, but perhaps something to go on.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #27029959 - 11/09/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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A lot. After about a month, it's about half as strong .




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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: jeftek]
    #27030011 - 11/09/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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A lot. After about a month, it's about half as strong .




Would freezing the tincture help to preserve it?





Maybe.

But I'm guessing that making a tincture increases the surface area of active molecules exposed to oxygen regardless of temperature.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #27079732 - 12/08/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't have a basis for the vit C, but it's hearsay that sounds right. May have come from a tek for some herbal non-psychedelic tincture I heard 40 years ago. Can't remember.

Vit C is used, I think, as a preservative in some foods. Also, isn't there something with taking lemons and shrooms to potentiate? Might be some sort of ascorbic acid voodoo.

Can't hurt. Maybe. I mean, didn't harm me, and the thing I made was potent, maybe more potent than the shrooms alone, but I took it a day after I made it. Will be interested to see long term keeping power with this. 





Haha, it's not voodoo or imagination or bad memory on your part, ascorbic acid is an acid, just like some of us use (or did) to extract DMT or other alkaloids from their host species.  Whether or not it's necessary or helpful in extracting actives from mushrooms I don't know, but I'd agree it likely is (re: lemon tek mostly).  I would also agree that it can't do anything but help in preservation, although again I don't know if it's any better than alcohol or not.  I would like to do some experiments in this to find out, maybe some day I'll get around to it...




What a coincidence that you bring that up because I've been wondering about it lately. I generally make lemon tek 50% lemon juice and 50% water and there is no noticeable degradation after 4-5 weeks in the fridge. The last batch I cut lemon juice down to 25% and potency was definitely dropping by 2 weeks and was pretty low by 4-5 to the point that each gram equivalent felt like 0.2-0.3. Anecdotal at best, but perhaps something to go on.





Thought I'd follow-up with an observation. The last batch of lemon tek was made in equal parts lemon juice/water on Oct. 30 and kept in the fridge. Potency now 6.5 weeks later is indistinguishable from the day it was made. It's probably going to grow mold or something before it gets weak.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #27201582 - 02/12/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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A lot. After about a month, it's about half as strong .




Any three month update? I'm looking for a tincture TEK with good long-term storage results (freezer).

Any thoughts on only using ethanol (eliminating the water step - since it might encourage oxidation)? I've seen RR and others more experienced than I suggesting that less water is better.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Maylink]
    #27201923 - 02/12/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Hey, great work on the tincture.

For storage, would amber glass be beneficial?

The extract vial posted on page one, first thing I noticed is that it is clear.

I understand oxygen breaks down the alkaloid; would light/UV as well?


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #27510408 - 10/19/21 04:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Very interesting! Is there any reason one couldn't use fresh shrooms?


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Mushtash]
    #27522123 - 10/28/21 09:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Cool tek. Thanks for sharing :mushroom2:
  • I wonder why mixing both solutions before the evaporation step, when you could just evaporate the water solution and later mixing it with ethanol solution?
  • Why do you need to evaporate ethanol at all? If you want less ethanol in final solution, then you could start with less ethanol.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: nektar61]
    #28118364 - 12/31/22 04:07 AM (1 year, 28 days ago)

Yeah, hippy lore can't be kind of funny sometimes. Tweaker lore too. between hearing about jumper cables and Raid, or burying rye seed with oranges , there is so much disinfo put out through the years it's ridiculous.

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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: ShadowLite] * 1
    #28118545 - 12/31/22 08:44 AM (1 year, 28 days ago)

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Yeah, hippy lore can't be kind of funny sometimes. Tweaker lore too. between hearing about jumper cables and Raid, or burying rye seed with oranges , there is so much disinfo put out through the years it's ridiculous.

Hell, just read some of the crap that Fester put out




Can you elaborate on what any of what you said there has to do with this thread, or was there a particular post you were replying in reference to?  It's kind of an old thread and to bump it over a year later with that is a bit confusing...


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Forrester]
    #28118588 - 12/31/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 28 days ago)

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Yeah, hippy lore can't be kind of funny sometimes. Tweaker lore too. between hearing about jumper cables and Raid, or burying rye seed with oranges , there is so much disinfo put out through the years it's ridiculous.

Hell, just read some of the crap that Fester put out




Can you elaborate on what any of what you said there has to do with this thread, or was there a particular post you were replying in reference to?  It's kind of an old thread and to bump it over a year later with that is a bit confusing...




I was thinking the same thing.. lol


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: moonzo]
    #28271602 - 04/10/23 06:40 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

Sorry for the bump, but did anyone figure if frozen tincture/tea whatever lasted say 4 months or longer when frozen?  It would really help with commerce for people who are just not interested in chomping shrooms or are paralyzed with the idea they are going to screw up making tea themselves.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: kuman30]
    #28271622 - 04/10/23 06:48 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

If you’re going to freeze it just make tea and reduce it a lot. No alcohol needed :shrug:


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: kuman30]
    #28271649 - 04/10/23 07:02 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

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Sorry for the bump, but did anyone figure if frozen tincture/tea whatever lasted say 4 months or longer when frozen?  It would really help with commerce for people who are just not interested in chomping shrooms or are paralyzed with the idea they are going to screw up making tea themselves.




Can't remember exactly who on here, but have read reports from plenty of reputable members that have frozen tea and consumed 6 months after freezing and it was plenty potent.  I'm planning on freezing some the next batch I make.


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #28271686 - 04/10/23 07:16 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

Psilocybin was found to degrade faster in freezing temps then room temp and also found to degrade faster at high temps. It also degrades faster if exposed to light. The biggest factor though is oxygen, air tight containers with little air space would be best. Some of this is discussed in the following-
Gotvaldová, K.; Hájková, K,; Borovička, J.; Jurok, R.; Cihlárová, P.; Kuchař, M.; 2021. Stability of psilocybin and its four analogs in the biomass of the psychotropic mushroom Psilocybe cubensis. Drug Test Anal. 2021;13:439-446. https//doi.org/10.1002/dta.2950


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Re: Shroom TINCTURE (The REAL purple drank) [Re: kuman30]
    #28369820 - 06/22/23 09:02 AM (7 months, 3 days ago)

OP here im not sure but i do know that this exact psilocybin tincture did lose potency over time. what a throwback hahaha!


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