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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26954965 - 09/25/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Im no nutritionalist and don't know enough about the intricacies of the science behind it but I do know that eating regular small meals of fresh whole foods (unprocessed foods) that have good nutrient density and are high in dietary fibre, four or five times a day will help you to feel full and kickstart your metabolism.
I understand that your medication can play a part in weight gain causing fluid retention and metabolic stress but there is a lot you can do do counteract this.
This binge and purge cycle that it sounds like you are currently on is causing your body to store everything it gets as fat instead of being burnt for fuel, thus making you feel both lethargic and gain weight.
Also, try some probiotics to help your body digest your food and unlock more nutritional benefit from it. High fibre whole food diets with probiotic supplements have been shown to improve mood, metabolism and energy levels.
I know that fad diets and quick fixes are appealing but you need to play the long game on this one. Developing healthy eating habits to fix your metabolism/mood/weight will take a little time but you will find the right balance eventually. You can get there homie :thumbup:

Here's some links to back up what I am saying...
https://pitherapy.com.au/how-increasing-fibre-intake-can-help-treat-depression/
https://www.verywellmind.com/could-probiotics-be-a-good-mood-food-5071406
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-10-large-scale-mediterranean-diet-mental-health.html#:~:text=They%20found%20a%20connection%20between,to%20follow%20these%20eating%20habits.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
    #26955054 - 09/25/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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theres insulin secreting tumors that cause weight gain too, and drugs that increase/decrease insulin levels cause weight gain/weight loss too




oh, btw, have you ever injected insulin?  like, a tiny bit, just to see what it does/feels like?

you might be able to find a PEL or TLV from OSHA or ACGIH for insulin, or maybe a medical society...  maybe if you inject slightly less, or slightly more?, than the TLV you might get a minor effect but still not blow up your kidneys.

i have not done this, but it's something i would like to try, you know just to know what it does.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: stimpson]
    #26955143 - 09/25/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Try eating 70% steamed vegetables. Eat all the vegetables first, give it 10 mins and eat the protein. By this point you should be feeling pretty full while having eating a meal of maybe 400 calories.

Just say away from starchy vegies which are calorie dense.


As for insulin, it is needed to move amino acids into cells and form them into proteins.  Severe burn victims often suffer burn induced muscle wasting, to combat this they are given pretty high constant doses of insulin as well as amino acids to keep net amino acid into the cell higher than net amino acids out of the cell.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
    #26955564 - 09/26/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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made me deathly afraid of braking my left wrist




Your wacking side right? :lol:


Also losing weights takes time. I feel like you have a new best idea every week

Set a calory goal and try and fill that with real and healthy food. Its impossible for that to not work. Also do excercise for at least 20 minutes a day. Even a walk will do

If you are on meds that make you take on weight, it may be different. If thats the case I would focus on increasing muscle mass as much as possible

Being fat and strong is still better than just being fat


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26955572 - 09/26/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Your wacking side right? :lol:




I have no flexability in my left wrist cause I broke it twice, I think the small bones in the wrist are out of whack and healed wrong, I cant even bend my wrist like im going to do a push up

I fell on my right arm that I only broke once, and it mostly worked out fine, it hurt the tiniest bit, cause I lost a little flexabilty in that wrist too, but it made me think if I fell on my left wrist it would just snap like a twig instead of bend properly

weed fucked my wrist up back in grade 9, I broke my arm and when I had the cast on I dropped some weed under my bed, I tried to lift the mattress up to look under and I felt a snap in my wrist, well I thought it was my arm that was broke un-setting, but I know now it was my wrist, I was afraid of telling anyone cause I didnt want to get in trouble


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
    #26955578 - 09/26/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't read all the thread, so sorry if this has been covered.

A calorie is the amount of energy it takes to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree centegrade.

There's 19,000,000 calories in a gram of uranium. But you can't live on that shit.

You can't live on soda either. Never drink that shit.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26955599 - 09/26/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The calories associated with the energy content of food are actually kilocalories.  So 1500 food calories is 1.5 million actual calories, enough energy to heat 50kg of water 30°C. A body that burns 1500 calories a day has a power output of 17 watts. It would take more than the total output of three people just to keep one 60 watt lightbulb lit continuously.

If you drank cold water instead of warm water, you will burn more calories. You burn 30 calories to maintain your body temperature if you drink one liter of ice cold water.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Northerner]
    #26955616 - 09/26/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I didn't read all the thread, so sorry if this has been covered.

A calorie is the amount of energy it takes to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree centegrade.

There's 19,000,000 calories in a gram of uranium. But you can't live on that shit.

You can't live on soda either. Never drink that shit.




19 billion calories
19 million kilocalories


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: koods]
    #26955620 - 09/26/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Still can't carbonate that shit and sell it for $2


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Northerner]
    #26955631 - 09/26/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The mass energy equivalent for an average human is about 150,573,613,000,000 kilocalories


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: koods]
    #26955858 - 09/26/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Northerner said:
I didn't read all the thread, so sorry if this has been covered.

A calorie is the amount of energy it takes to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree centegrade.

There's 19,000,000 calories in a gram of uranium. But you can't live on that shit.

You can't live on soda either. Never drink that shit.




19 billion calories
19 million kilocalories





Imagine you could explode that, a single gram of Uranium.. 19 tons of TNT.




If you could, you could deliver these with a sniper rifle.


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Asante]
    #26955876 - 09/26/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:Awemazing:


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26955885 - 09/26/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Kcals and food Cals with a capital c are widely used interchangeably.

For historical reasons, two main definitions of calorie are in wide use. The small calorie or gram calorie (usually denoted cal) is the amount of heat energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius (or one kelvin). [2][3] The large calorie, food calorie, or kilocalorie (Cal, calorie or kcal) is the amount of heat needed to cause the same increase in one kilogram of water.[4]


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26958903 - 09/28/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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There's 19,000,000 calories in a gram of uranium. But you can't live on that shit.

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they say there is 3500 calories in a pound of fat, so I would gain 5428 pounds if I ate a gram of uranium?


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
    #26958909 - 09/28/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: yeah]
    #26958917 - 09/28/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

you cant post Fung on the shroomery, no one would listen


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
    #26958990 - 09/28/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Northerner said:

There's 19,000,000 calories in a gram of uranium. But you can't live on that shit.

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they say there is 3500 calories in a pound of fat, so I would gain 5428 pounds if I ate a gram of uranium?




Im pretty sure you would die :lol:


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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] * 2
    #26959229 - 09/28/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Gopher with all your extreme diet stuff you clearly have some crazy discipline to be able to stick to them. Imagine if you just got into a frequent exercise routine and worried a little less about food. It's a whole lot easier to do 20 minutes of pushups and core work every morning than to fast for weeks or eat your age in eggs.

It really seems like you're overthinking the nutrition part because these fringe theories interest you. Other than the genetics you're stuck with, eating less and moving more has a pretty well proven track record for being the best method for getting weight to normal levels.


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