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ID Request - Panaeolus cyanscens (?) - Southeast USA
    #26958726 - 09/28/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Found growing in cow manure on a slope, Southeast USA, within 100mi radius of GA/TN/AL border. There were dozens of patches with identical mushrooms so I am really anxious to know what species I've found, especially note the blueing towards to base of the stem. Thanks for any help!



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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26958739 - 09/28/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Look like panaeolus species to me, not sure exactly which, but im sure someone will know. Certainly look active anyway.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: herbie]
    #26958914 - 09/28/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Either pan cyans with some pan antillarium mixed in, or all pan cyans.  pan antillarium is inactive, not too toxic.  But you'd wanna make sure you just saving the pan cyans.  Look for obvious blue bruising as they turn black and bruise very easily.

Congrats!  Definitely wait for a TI though before eating any.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26958926 - 09/28/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys! Yes, most of these are definitely turning a blue hue all over after they were harvested, with especially dark blueing on the stems.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26958978 - 09/28/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thatโ€™s 3 Pan cyans that just have dark stems


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Jadedgreen]
    #26959046 - 09/28/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

time to check my patch!!!!

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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26960045 - 09/29/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Someone I know tried these mushrooms and declared no activity from 15g or even 30g (wet). Is this ID erroneous? Could a TI give some insight?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26960062 - 09/29/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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spagooter said:
Someone I know tried these mushrooms and declared no activity from 15g or even 30g (wet). Is this ID erroneous? Could a TI give some insight?




Were they on medication? Cause those are 100% pan cyans


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26960155 - 09/29/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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MentalPariah said:

Were they on medication? Cause those are 100% pan cyans




This person is taking a mild, daily dose of an SNRI. Does anyone have experience with such combinations and the expected outcome?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26960179 - 09/29/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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spagooter said:
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MentalPariah said:

Were they on medication? Cause those are 100% pan cyans




This person is taking a mild, daily dose of an SNRI. Does anyone have experience with such combinations and the expected outcome?





SSRI and SNRI have both been reported to reduce the effects of classic serotonergic hallucinogens like psilocybin, lsd, and dmt.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Icyurmt]
    #26960264 - 09/29/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

They can dull the effect or completely cancel it out.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26960361 - 09/29/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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spagooter said:
Someone I know tried these mushrooms and declared no activity from 15g or even 30g (wet). Is this ID erroneous? Could a TI give some insight?




Not those three that you picked right?  Because that's probably like 10 fresh (if that even) that you took a picture of.  Which with p cyan is enough to trip.

But yeah there SNRI will stop the trip.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26960516 - 09/29/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They Are An Active Panaeolus Sp In The (Copelandia) Group, Probably Cyanescens But Could Be Another Similar Sp In That Group :thumbup:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26960561 - 09/29/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Not those three that you picked right?  Because that's probably like 10 fresh (if that even) that you took a picture of.  Which with p cyan is enough to trip.

But yeah there SNRI will stop the trip.




No, others were used but they also showed blueing and looked identical to the ones pictured. He took 6 fresh mushrooms close to that size with no effect... then took another 3-4 fresh on top of that. Still zero activity. He's very disappointed to have learned all of this info over the course of a few years and finally found his first active in the wild... only to be denied this magical venture into parts of his head that he was so looking forward to experience.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: spagooter]
    #26960821 - 09/29/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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spagooter said:
Quote:

Typerwritermonky said:
Not those three that you picked right?  Because that's probably like 10 fresh (if that even) that you took a picture of.  Which with p cyan is enough to trip.

But yeah there SNRI will stop the trip.




No, others were used but they also showed blueing and looked identical to the ones pictured. He took 6 fresh mushrooms close to that size with no effect... then took another 3-4 fresh on top of that. Still zero activity. He's very disappointed to have learned all of this info over the course of a few years and finally found his first active in the wild... only to be denied this magical venture into parts of his head that he was so looking forward to experience.




6 should have been a wild ride for sure.
I know it sucks for your friend man but maybe its for the best right now. In time if he can get off the meds (the right way) and be in a better place mentally, then the experience will be that much better. I dont think you would have wanted to be an accessory to your friend losing his mind and having a psychotic episode... right? All things in time, your buddy just needs to focus on himself and his well being at this time.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26960972 - 09/29/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It is hard to imagine not feeling anything.  20 g is a level 5


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis (?) - Southeast USA [Re: Jadedgreen]
    #26960987 - 09/29/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nah, thats 2 grams dry. He said they were fresh.


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