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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: Gan]
    #26904692 - 08/28/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for that brother! I didn't find anything that informative. Hopefully mine work out okay. I'm just a hobbyist, so I doubt I'll build a flow hood, though it would be so nice and easy to work with. I despise working in a SAB.

I'll continue to update this thread with how my project is doing so that others can hopefully learn from it.

Thanks all for your input!


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: TipOfTheCap]
    #26904818 - 08/28/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I always pour from one jar to another when doing g2g. Using pint jars for masters makes it a bit easier, plus they colonize quicker. I pour into quarts.

If you needed a sterile spoon for some reason, wrap one in a foil pouch and PC. Open foil in SAB. Now you have a sterile spoon, for whatever.


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: RoscoeReturns]
    #26904842 - 08/28/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That's a great idea, thanks!


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: TipOfTheCap]
    #26904851 - 08/28/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

i never even used a sterile spoon when i cooked my heroin πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ sorry im retarded i know just thought the words for when u need a sterile spoon put together sounded halarious is allπŸ˜€


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: jcm4620]
    #26904903 - 08/28/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bahaha, love it! Jokes are always welcome in my book!


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: TipOfTheCap]
    #26957408 - 09/27/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So here's a update!

Turns out the jars were fine. Must have been just extra water. All my shoeboxes look and smell great and the first couple early guys have already been harvested. All ten of my grain to grain transfer jars are healthy. Today making some more shoe boxes and making ten more G2G's. Coir and verm is pasteurizing as we speak.

Happy Sunday! Here's some pics. I'll keep updating once I have some good progress. So for future reference to some who it may apply, some excess water *could* be okay. I did simmer my popcorn for 15 minutes less on the grain to grain jars and let them dry longer and the water amount came out perfect! Live and learn!

Though I admit, these don't look as awesome as some experienced farmers, I am just so very pleased it worked out at all. These are not clones, these are from me getting lucky going syringe to popcorn straight up. I didn't know about agar when I started this project. I did make a bunch of prints, so once I start to see slow growth after a couple generations of G2G, I'll make up some agar and try my hand at that with some clones.

***A couple questions though. On most of the shoebox teks I've read, they no longer seem to be using tape or liners to prevent bottom and side pinning. Most don't seem concerned with that. I have a huge bunch pinning on the bottom and the sides.***

*Should I tape up the outside where I don't want pins? Should I even worry? Too late to add a liner, but I could tape it up to prevent light.*

Also I've been using wax paper during the first week they were pin setting, and the tubs that I used wax paper have a much more even pinset than those without. I'm definitely going to be using this all the time now. I had great results with wax paper on my BRF cakes. I put these straight into fruiting conditions as I have read the week of darkness to consolidate with bulk has been found is not needed anymore. I just left the lids on the tubs and lit them up on the side with all the tubs stacked. I have since dub-tubbed them now that they are getting taller, but the first couple aggressive fruits I didn't catch quick enough so they are a little skinny and twisty. No worries though! I layered sub and spawn as evenly as I could, I did not mix it up. What's your opinions on layering VS mixing. Do you see more even pinsets? Am I get irregular sets because these are not clones?

Thanks again for all your help guys!





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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: TipOfTheCap]
    #26957696 - 09/27/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Completely okay, and mirrors my experience with a lot of bacterial spawn caused by too much bottom watering.
The true chase is the canopy, where you succeed in using the space of the box.
Next time wipe your corn.

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it wouldnt be entirely wrong to clone something from that cluster either, its not a good cluster, but its nice training

get a piece to agar, try to get even cleaner spawn next time


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26957802 - 09/27/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How are you prepping? I usually boil my corn for an hour. Then strain and lay it out on a regular towel to soak up extra starches and dry out the grain. Then pc.







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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: eatyualive]
    #26957833 - 09/27/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

wow, you want to talk to me about prepping corn?
someone pcped your shrooms tonight?

the thing with corn is that you want to boil them until the hard shell opens enough for your boil to moist the inside, this way they hold more water while still holding little water on the outside of the kernel, where we generall dont want it, cause it just causes bottom pooling

I started out in this thread a few back, a new guy on shroommery,
trying to tell people about my no holes corn grow:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26854464
but its just being ignored like it was aids

anyways, ive gradually cut down on my corn prep, started out with boiling them 2 hours before pcing them 2 hours.

like most grain preppers i have trickled down to the laziest solution,
these days any time of boiling is okay. but the importance is to boil on high heat with the lid on, to blow up those corn kernels, because with corn, we actually want them to blow up.

the surface of the corn kernel makes up for the blown kernels

anywyas, thats what i have found out, the only way my stuff is wrong is if you can soak corn, dry their outside, and still have colonization.

im running corn as a mainliner, fruited a few kilos of it, and since im not getting those heavy canopies, ive been blaming the corn.



Easy to see good growt on corn. As long as you avoid bottom water,
no problems. You can wipe em with a towel.

Usually i just boil em till the water is gone, and load the jars


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26957912 - 09/27/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the wise words. I'll be taking the plunge into agar here very soon.

These first 4 are all mangled as I had kept the lid on over a weekend while I was away. Those tubs are dubbed now for space. I'm hoping the next will have a bigger cap, and of course a thicker canopy.


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: eatyualive]
    #26957919 - 09/27/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My first attempt which was the very watery jars was when I simmered them for one hour and was rushed when I towel dried and strained them. The second run of jars I switched to 45 minutes and then strained and then towel dried for a full hour. They came out perfectly!


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Re: Excess Water In my Popcorn Jars [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26957924 - 09/27/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So you boil your corn? I can't argue with those results. I was bringing the water to boil and then letting it come down to simmering as I had read in a tek. They don't expand as much as yours. Makes sense what you said about surface area. I was struggling the first time with too many split kernels but I thought it was the time I was cooking. So you just boil them and the trick is high heat and not simmer level heat? Also I was keeping the lid off the pot to be able to skim the starch off and stir occasionally.

I'll try higher heat and a lid next go around.


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