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65 Minute Grain Tek * 1
    #26956447 - 09/26/20 07:20 PM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

There is nothing new here really but this grain prep has reduced the amount of extra things that come with prepping grain. I have been enjoying it because I don't need to boil, soak, dry, etc.

This originally started out as a tek I got from Crackatoa but I have just tweaked it to my needs over time.

Grain of choice is white millet.


Since buying millet in bulk means big ass bags I like fill up some gallon ziplock bags and put them in my kitchen so I dont need to leave the kitchen to do the grain prep. I just reuse the bags when they run out no reason to throw them away, plus makes pouring into the measuring cup easier. If there are any non millet pieces in the jar I don't bother taking them out.



I measure out between 450-500ml of millet. I find 500ml and up expands too much and does not leave very much headroom in jar making shaking more difficult than it really needs to be


Dry grains into the jar (millet expands in the PC so it will fill out)


I add a little under 150ml of water cold from the tap.


After I add the water to the grains I like to kind of likely stir the grains and the water in the jar so the water doesn't all pool at the bottom. I just shake it lightly in the jar so it gets mixed. After mixed:


Like other teks 3qts of water into the PC with a splash of vinegar if your tap water is hard.

Turn on the stove and let it vent for 10 minutes

PC for 65 minutes at 15psi.

Fresh out the PC with a light shake. No clumps/cakes.


Other teks I have tried the millet would cake up too much that I couldn't break it but when I do it this way I just shake it a bit to break it up out of the PC but once the jar fully cools the remaining chunks are broken up with another shake or when you shake after inoculation.

Here is some colonized grain following these steps


Looks like it is working well with wild bird seed as well. Since this was just adding water any potential floaters or corn/sunflower seeds and whatever else did not get removed.


Here is some of shoeboxes using this grain tek. I don't really take many pictures so I will update this later with more.



Edited by CocaineBuffet (09/26/20 09:08 PM)


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26956456 - 09/26/20 07:30 PM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

This is badass. what a time saver


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: JHOVA]
    #26956476 - 09/26/20 07:44 PM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

This was the tek I started with, and wont give up... No Soak No Simmer. I used less millet when I did millet, but about the same amount of water. This tek also works well with whole oats. 2/3c oats, 150-175mL water. Shake after PC drops pressure. A pinch of gypsum helps with the shake.

Good post! It really does take the pain out of grain prep. A lot of folks are locked in to a certain way, and NSNS goes completely against common practice, but it works like a champ.

Successful Lazy Tek is the best kind of tek.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: FlufferNutter] * 1
    #26956490 - 09/26/20 07:52 PM (25 days, 3 hours ago)

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Successful Lazy Tek is the best kind of tek.




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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26956501 - 09/26/20 08:10 PM (25 days, 3 hours ago)

Will try. :cheers:


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26956700 - 09/26/20 11:00 PM (25 days, 49 minutes ago)

Right on Big Cain ๐Ÿค˜This is the same general tek I've started using recently as well. Only difference is my ratio is a little different, and I weigh the millet and water to get the exact same percentage of moisture with every batch. Measuring with measuring cups is usually close enough if your careful but I like to know down to the gram what's in my bags. Too much moisture was an enemy I had to conquer in bags.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26956704 - 09/26/20 11:04 PM (25 days, 44 minutes ago)

looks like the third jar in your cooked millet pic doesn't have the lid on all the way.

I wonder if it takes you longer to measure all that out than it takes me to prep twenty masters worth of birdseed.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26956736 - 09/26/20 11:23 PM (25 days, 25 minutes ago)

Does this work for bags?


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #26956800 - 09/27/20 12:17 AM (24 days, 23 hours ago)

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Does this work for bags?




saw pro gourmet growers use this with bags, so yes it does.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
    #26956821 - 09/27/20 12:50 AM (24 days, 22 hours ago)

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looks like the third jar in your cooked millet pic doesn't have the lid on all the way.

I wonder if it takes you longer to measure all that out than it takes me to prep twenty masters worth of birdseed.




I bought some oven gloves that allow me a more tactile approach to securing the tops on hot jars. Your observation is noted will for sure keep my eyes on the jar :smile:

I have had some promising results with WBS done in the same tek. It seems to take to the LC well. Cant say if it aligns with your process since WBS is the newest variable to the recipe. I try not to have the lid on so secure that it causes me fatigue to take it off. TBH I am not familiar with your grain prep to challenge it. This is just what works for me currently :thumbup:


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26956827 - 09/27/20 12:54 AM (24 days, 22 hours ago)

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Right on Big Cain ๐Ÿค˜This is the same general tek I've started using recently as well. Only difference is my ratio is a little different, and I weigh the millet and water to get the exact same percentage of moisture with every batch. Measuring with measuring cups is usually close enough if your careful but I like to know down to the gram what's in my bags. Too much moisture was an enemy I had to conquer in bags.




I am not using bags but I have seen some documentation that using the the bag and adding the water is a good solution (there is a great gourmet mushroom grower) on Youtube that has a similar no prep approach to growing.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26956848 - 09/27/20 01:21 AM (24 days, 22 hours ago)

Southwest mushrooms?

He's the guy I saw that made me switch.

Prepping some tomorrow actually ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Funky Monkey] * 1
    #26956871 - 09/27/20 01:48 AM (24 days, 22 hours ago)

Yes, I tried to find that video to post here


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: TheBoJim]
    #26956915 - 09/27/20 02:46 AM (24 days, 21 hours ago)

Yeah... Wtf?

He must have took it down... Shitty.



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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26979210 - 10/11/20 12:30 AM (10 days, 23 hours ago)

i just tried this with oats. it didn't work well. To much gunk in the bottom of the jar. To many busted oats. I used a cup (180g) of oats to 175ml water. If not for the gunk it would have worked.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Randall Flagg] * 1
    #26979231 - 10/11/20 12:46 AM (10 days, 23 hours ago)

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JHOVA said:
Does this work for bags?




I use the same general Tek with a 30% moisture content for bags. Weighing the water and millet to the gram.

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i just tried this with oats. it didn't work well. To much gunk in the bottom of the jar. To many busted oats. I used a cup (180g) of oats to 175ml water. If not for the gunk it would have worked.




Too much moisture even for jars. Try weighing the water and going down to 40% moisture content and see how it goes. Too much moisture + applied heat over a period of time = burst grain city.

You'd be surprised how much difference a few percentage points of moisture can make. Like for my bags at 29-31 percent are Gucci, at 33% and definitely any higher and we got issues.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26979316 - 10/11/20 02:07 AM (10 days, 21 hours ago)

I might give this a try with some WBS just to see how it does.


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Re: 65 Minute Grain Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26979378 - 10/11/20 03:27 AM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

Hell yeah man, get all the way player with it and don't even hose down that slutty WBS. Speaking of hoes, the ones in my area can tell you, I love dirty, and that whore WBS is running around with the whole neighborhood's seed in her. Cumdumpsters need love too. :laugh2:

Back when I was using WBS my Tek called for an insane amount of rinsing "till it runs clear" so usually five rinses... She's so filthy. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ I'd love! LOVE! LOVE! to see that dirty slut jump straight in the bag with you and get straight to making you mush babies without giving you an ounce of grief! :goodluck:

:popcorn:

Edit: Note: That dirty pussy will likely be super clumpy, but pay her disgusting filth no mind my friend. THAT is why we fuck with "the bag". No raw doggin' it. Massage her nasty insides through that wrapper and think about all the beautiful babies you will make when you purposely break the plastic...๐Ÿคซ :mushroom2:

DON'T recommend JARS with this type of No Rinse / No Prep Tek with WBS for this reason. Actually if it weren't for the fact I am using bags I might even rinse this brand of millet I get. Not the cleanest I've seen. However using the bags makes up for a multitude of dirty sins. Massage the clumpy bitch. ๐Ÿ‘Š


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