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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61] 1
#26955235 - 09/25/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've seen no proof of contam resistance from gypsum use. If it did, i suppose the answers here would be wholly different
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: Josex]
#26955243 - 09/25/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Josex said: Those are all cubes, they need the same things and the same fruiting parameters and gypsum is a completely optional additive that won't do much if anything at all.....
Is gypsum useful for exotic species? If so I'll keep it for when I get thee.
If not, I'll take it to the farmers' market and trade it for some apples or something like that.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61]
#26955552 - 09/26/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to use it... i dont anymore.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: LotKid]
#26955594 - 09/26/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LotKid said: I used to use it... i dont anymore.
We're 9/0 so far, from a bunch of active and respected members with years on here.
I'm convinced. Just say no to gypsum. Friends don't let friends use gypsum. We can stamp out gypsum in our lifetimes.
I still think some zealous lawn guy dropped it into the mix back in the day, and it just became an urban myth.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61] 1
#26955605 - 09/26/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never noticed a difference with or without it.
Even as recently as 4-5 years ago people were still preaching using it, some anyway.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61] 1
#26955656 - 09/26/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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nektar61 said: So do you think it doesn't even help with contams?
I don't
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: Tormato] 1
#26955676 - 09/26/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have done tubs with it, and without it, no discernable difference that I could tell
if you have some around I encourage you to try some out for yourself but I wouldn't rush out to buy any or anything
can't imagine how it would make any difference to contamination rates one way or the other
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61] 1
#26955851 - 09/26/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am not sure if that comment was productive by any means, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. By marginalizing my comments and experiences, you arent being conducive to a constructive discussion. I believe this forum is intended for that and correct me if i am wrong? My way or the highway attitudes do not get you anywhere my friend and i mean this respectfully. There is no need to attempt to offend someone if they are trying to further a discussion and actually help.
Anyway, gypsum is NOT useless and outdated. It is merely a decision for the cultivator if the benefits are worth their time and resources. It certainly does NOT detract in any way. Throwing in some powder in a sub while you mix it doesnt seem like a big deal everyone is making it out to be. Try it on some and delete in on others and see if you like it for yourself
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: maxmush]
#26955916 - 09/26/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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maxmush said: I am not sure if that comment was productive by any means, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. By marginalizing my comments and experiences, you arent being conducive to a constructive discussion. I believe this forum is intended for that and correct me if i am wrong? My way or the highway attitudes do not get you anywhere my friend and i mean this respectfully. There is no need to attempt to offend someone if they are trying to further a discussion and actually help.
Anyway, gypsum is NOT useless and outdated. It is merely a decision for the cultivator if the benefits are worth their time and resources. It certainly does NOT detract in any way. Throwing in some powder in a sub while you mix it doesnt seem like a big deal everyone is making it out to be. Try it on some and delete in on others and see if you like it for yourself 
You replied to me with this post. I have no idea what I said to tick you off but I didn't say anything disparaging to you.
Or were you replying to Offlineverum subsequentis but accidentally tagged me?
I don't think he was being mean, just straightforward. 9 people with years of experience replied on here that gypsum is a waste, including some trusted cultivators. I put too much on my first grow and almost killed it. And by too much I mean 1.5x recommended amount.
I think anyone at this date saying gypsum IS good and useful for cubes should do the double blind tests and post pix if they feel that strongly about it.
Confused I am with your response.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61]
#26956016 - 09/26/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think he was being mean, just straightforward
That's how I roll. For me, the concept of gypsum being beneficial came from ol roger rabbit. I tried it a lot and tried without it a lot. Nowadays i just keep it around and throw it in my grain sometimes.
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I'm pretty sure the whole gypsum is beneficial thing is originally from Stamets.
If that's wrong then show us...
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: LotKid] 1
#26956247 - 09/26/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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me?
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Yes, you!
seriously tho.. more speaking in general...
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I don't think he was being mean, just straightforward
For me, the concept of gypsum being beneficial came from ol roger rabbit.
I'll do no such thing simply because i have no fucks to give. I told you were I got it from. Hence the "for me" part of the post.
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Yeah, I have no qualms with how you said it. I'm just throwing info out there that I believe the info is originally from Stamets is all. I love you, buddy.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: LotKid]
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: LotKid] 1
#26956398 - 09/26/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it’s definitely from Stamets. He mentions adding it to spawn for button mushrooms and that’s it’s optional for everything else. He also used it in straw sub that has chicken shit in it to reduce its greasiness, iirc. It’s been 20 years since I looked the the mushroom cultivator, but if anyone feels like checking, they can do so here.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61] 1
#26956547 - 09/26/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, "CocaineBuffet" is a hilarious handle.
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Re: Gypsum or not in sub? [Re: nektar61]
#26956626 - 09/26/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought gypsum was used w grain to keep it from sticking together?
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