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How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? *DELETED*
    #26955377 - 09/26/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: 235]
    #26955397 - 09/26/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, personally, I'm circumcised, and I'm glad my parents chose to have it done, though I completely understand the ethical quandary of that exact process itself.

I'll be honest this is the last thing I ponder while tripping, I'm usually prioritizing conscious observation of self/other...

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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: 235]
    #26956268 - 09/26/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:congrats: Post #1, congratulations. However, in my professional opinion what you have selected for your first post seems to be a psychophysical trauma that you sustained as a child. I notice that you did not mention the Jewish ritual of a Bris (short for berit milah or 'covenant of circumcision') which is based more on ancient tradition and symbolism (i.e., the 'cutting off' of base desires) more so than the hygienic aspect. Obviously you are not Jewish or you would've been circumcised on the 8th day after birth when bleeding seems to slow (unless there are medical reasons to cause a delay).

You may well be correct about the decreased sensitivity caused by the removal of the frenulum. After all, that has been the purpose of female circumcision throughout the world. I am reminded by your use of the word frenulum that the same word is used for the connective tissue at the base of the tongue and something I once read in Hindu literature where the god Shiva grabs his penis and his extended tongue and explains that they are "the same" in some sense.  At any rate, your post did cause me to wonder about the "cutting off of base desires" is the same intention for males in traditional Judaism as it has been around the world for the patriarchal oppression of women. Male circumcision however is NOT equivalent to female clitoridectomy and a lot of women would find your assertion to be highly insulting. I've been to Nigeria for example, where young girls have often been mutilated under non-hygienic, non-medical conditions. :mad2: My circumcised organ served me well for decades and philosophically I never wanted to be led by my sexual desires.

I was circumcised as an infant being born to Jewish parents, but as I am 67 years old my sexual ability has been damaged by probably occluded blood vessels. The point is that I am not essentially identified with my sexual functioning, and fortunately my wife has not been traumatized by the lack of intercourse. While I often feel emasculated, frustrated, and sorrowful, at least I do not have the urgency I had in early decades of my life. Moreover, my wife does not perceive me as not being masculine. When Life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I was tripping and reading and meditating before I ever became sexual and now I am directed by nature to return to a more asexual existence (unless I choose to inject my penis on both sides with a hypodermic needle, wait for 20 minutes, and court Peronie's Disease from scar tissue caused by repeated injections to induce an artificial erection). Yes, my condition was traumatic initially, but as long as my wife is OK with love and affection I can adapt to occasional clinical auto-erotic practices.

But in your case, as a long-time clinical hypnotherapist in the business of eliminating the pain of traumas, I highly recommend therapy for you. While support groups might alleviate some angst, competently conducted hypnotherapy can and does eliminate both psychical and physical pain. The trauma is not forgotten but the memory of it no longer elicits pain. It is like the molted skin of a venomous snake - it has the appearance of the original threat but it has lost its sting, it remains a hollow reminder but no longer continues in the unconscious as an autonomous complex rearing its fearsome head into consciousness.

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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26956420 - 09/26/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

edit: adderall


Edited by WASTE (09/27/20 12:48 AM)


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: WASTE]
    #26956733 - 09/26/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The foreskin was thought of as the mother in the adolescent, who now, in the tribe, must begin his ascent into the hunter-gatherer role for which the precious Madonna and Bambino relationship must be torn apart, or people are going to starve.

I'd have a different attitude to sex if I was circumcised. As it is I'm prone to bending the rules, no orientationally, but things like anal sex are exciting.

Very ancient practice, not just a little bit of mutilation. Religious people will tell you all about otherwise.


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26958516 - 09/28/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Im cut. Could care less. Don't know what I'm missing anyway. Sex is great feeling and I can last forever with my cut up dick.


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: WASTE]
    #26959654 - 09/29/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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WASTE said:
edit: adderall






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Edited by MarkostheGnostic (09/29/20 12:38 PM)


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26959955 - 09/29/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26960284 - 09/29/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Edited. More to my point, pasted wrong vid. Error! ERROOOOR!


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26960746 - 09/29/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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WASTE said:
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I have a great propensity to post in depth, personal shroomery replies while on adderall, and an even greater propensity to become paranoid and self conscious of said posts when coming off of adderall. If you ever write a memoir please send it my way, really enjoyed reading your first response.


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: WASTE]
    #26960831 - 09/29/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Help me understand, you are interested in my memoir based on my singular response? I do have an unfinished book of 180+ pages but who knows when I'm gonna write a final chapter and epilogue, ask my wife to finish editing it, get someone else to format it, apply for a copyrighted under my pseudonymous name MarkostheGnostic then try to get it published in paper? But it is interesting that you would be interested. :cheers:


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Re: How has tripping changed how feel about circumcision? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26972925 - 10/06/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sex is great but I would rather have grown up with an uncut dick. I don't feel its right for one of the very first things we do to our baby boys when they enter this world is to slice their dicks. I think the foreskin serves a valid biological purpose that was the result of millions of years of evolution. The "its cleaner" argument is outdated information that only applies to nations where regular showering and basic hygiene is not common. The only reason why circumcision is such a prevalent thing is because the Kellogg's Cereal guy was a religious fruitcake and went on a crusade against sexuality.


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