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Could this be a peruvian torch?
    #2695502 - 05/18/04 12:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Could this be a peruvian torch? What do you think?
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photo 2  photo 3 

It's beautful what ever it is.  :smile:


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2695510 - 05/18/04 12:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I am assuming it IS some sort of Trichocereus but i'm not exactly sure if its peruvianus.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2695574 - 05/18/04 12:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, according to a key to distinguishing trichoreus spcies it could be a macrogonus because it's spines are 2.5 cm or less. Any other opinions?


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2695576 - 05/18/04 12:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It might as well be an cereus. to id cactus over the internet is not good idea, even experts miss id cactuses all the time with the cactus right infront of them, its really hard to tell.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: shamantra]
    #2695587 - 05/18/04 12:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think its a macrogonus.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2695629 - 05/18/04 01:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you are probably right about this one but i wouldnt guarantee anything until i have seen the flowers if they had hairs or not because they are very similar.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2695672 - 05/18/04 01:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

it sure looks like some trichocereus species or _hybrid_ but could be a peruvianus, a cuzcoensis or a macrogonus...
but i'd guess peruvianus.
it sure is no cereus that i know.
congrats! it's NOT a Stetsonia coryne! =)


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2695713 - 05/18/04 01:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

either macrogonous or peruvianus, i'm up in the air but i'd lean to peruvianus on first appearence but the color of the spines stays too yellow for my comfort.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: neuro]
    #2695784 - 05/18/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm going to say peruvianus because macrogonus look a lot different. (regarding the macrogonus) The V notches are way more defined (deeper ridges) and they are more curvy. look similiar to a Cucumber. THe Deadly Cucumber as I call them.

A second glanse at it really makes me believe its a peruvian, possibly hybrid too.


Edited by Alkaloidaholic (05/18/04 01:54 PM)


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2695916 - 05/18/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Re: Could this be a peruvian torch?

Yes it could, and very likely IS a Trichocereus peruvianus.
Looks good & active!
Enjoy growing it for a year or more before you chop anything from it.

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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: YourHighness]
    #2695972 - 05/18/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Great! Thanks! :smile: So.. Naturally the next question is: is there any good growing guides around the internet that I should read? I tried to search but didn't find anything too great. I suppose I could just water it randomly and hope it to grow but I guess there are better ways to make it _big enough_.

..and sorry for my english, I'm from Finland. :smile:


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2696969 - 05/18/04 05:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

www.nansnook.com
and of course, the Ethnobotanical Garden's FAQ!


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Kible]
    #2697216 - 05/18/04 05:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm relatively sure that is a peruvianus, look how as it gets older the spines point up at a 45 degree angle on the right side of photo 1. The only thing that looks strange is the fuzzy white spine-pads....

The real tell tale sign of it being active though will be the taste test later when you decide to cut it... mescaline tastes absolutely terrible. You'll know pretty quickly.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2697404 - 05/18/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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The real tell tale sign of it being active though will be the taste test later when you decide to cut it... mescaline tastes absolutely terrible. You'll know pretty quickly.




other cacti taste terrible too. have you tried stetsonia coryne already?


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2697519 - 05/18/04 06:27 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

No, I've never eatten one before. It cant be as bad as pedro...  :confused:


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2697621 - 05/18/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I've tastes some bitter ass non-actives in my day.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2702633 - 05/19/04 08:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm strongly against the cactus taste test for unknown plants.

This plant is a Trichocereus (Echinopsis) so it's okay, but Euphorbias are sold in garden centers as cacti and they contain poisonous sap.

Furthermore, I'm not really sold on the idea that you can taste potency differences.

Just my 2?.


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: nookjohn]
    #2702657 - 05/19/04 08:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

it's not an unknown plant, its a confirmed trich :P


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2702724 - 05/19/04 09:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Euphorbia's look absolutely nothing like trichocereus. Anyways, theres hundreds of poisonous plants available at garden centers, regardless if euphorbia's emit a caustic dermitoxic latex..


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Re: Could this be a peruvian torch? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2707014 - 05/20/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

hahah no straight answer. kible, mabey just take it to a highley recomended nursery (sp?) and just ask.


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