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I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola
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because according to a TDEE calculator I need to eat 2000 calories to maintain, since I eat every other day that means I should eat 4000 calories to maintain, im definitely eating less then 4000 calories on a eating day, but im not losing anything, in fact for my month long egg experiment I was eating like 1400 calories every other day and I seemed to be losing weight, but when I started eating junkfood again it all came back in the last 10 or so days
I just ordered the book "good calories, bad calories" by gary taubes, im going to do that diet to lose weight since total calories are a scam, there must be good calories and bad calories, the books going to teach me those secrets
I just got a box of cereal I got to eat first till I go back on a keto diet, I saw cereal on sale for $4 and I had to buy it, its a huge box of resees pieces cereal
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 1
#26954456 - 09/25/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Calories absolutely are real, and are a thing.
If expend/burn more calories than you consume, you'll lose weight, and vice versa. The difficult part is calculating your expenditure, which is very difficult to track.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 3
#26954457 - 09/25/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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food is a scam started by the agriculture industry. Yuo can get all the energy you need by just staring at the sun for a couple hours a day.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: badchad] 1
#26954470 - 09/25/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: Calories absolutely are real, and are a thing.
If expend/burn more calories than you consume, you'll lose weight, and vice versa. The difficult part is calculating your expenditure, which is very difficult to track.
I now subscribe 100% to the insulin theory of weight gain, insulin is the fat storage hormone so I got to spike insulin less often to lose weight, I will probably go off my medication too, im going to get my doctor to do blood work up, I want my fasted insulin tested, if its high im going to ditch the anti-psychotic and see if that helps, I was looking at my doctors website, I seen they have a dietitian, I was thinking about getting a referral to her, but itll probably be pointless, ill just get into an argument with her, cause she will be peddling canadas food guide info, and I will be like I want to start a carnivore diet but cant afford 2 pounds of steak every day
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 1
#26954493 - 09/25/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It has nothing to do with calories.
Ive never paid attention to that, in fact most of my life ive only needed like 1200 cal to get through the day
Jus cut out finishing that soda, try to eat a fruit or something green everyday. Your body figures out the rest on its own. I stuff my face until I have diarreah the next day, yes i was 20 pounds overweight but I changed litterally nothing when I got a job and I lost most of that weight. To be 40 pounds overweight youd have to be eating nonstop, like every two hours or something.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
#26954523 - 09/25/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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gopher said: I now subscribe 100% to the insulin theory of weight gain, insulin is the fat storage hormone so I got to spike insulin less often to lose weight,
I'd be curious to know the data supporting this hypothesis. The most compelling evidence comes from weight gain associated with insulin therapy. For example, diabetics that begin insulin therapy often gain weight (and adipose tissue). However, this isn't related to the insulin per se.
When you increase your insulin (via an "insulin spike") glucose and sugars are removed from your bloodstream. The side effect is you get hungry and eat more.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: badchad]
#26954527 - 09/25/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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theres insulin secreting tumors that cause weight gain too, and drugs that increase/decrease insulin levels cause weight gain/weight loss too
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 5
#26954528 - 09/25/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You talk about your eating schemes constantly, but I never hear you say anything about getting exercise
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: koods]
#26954531 - 09/25/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont exercise, I bought a skateboard this summer but I fell when I hit a stone and it made me deathly afraid of braking my left wrist, so I havnt rode it a second time
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 1
#26954536 - 09/25/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude, just walk and do some pushups or something.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
#26954540 - 09/25/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Insulin Sucreting Tumors---my new band name!
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 2
#26954541 - 09/25/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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2000 calories a day if you don’t exercise is too much. You probably have very little muscle mass. Increase the muscle mass and you increase your resting rate of metabolism and you can eat more.
It seems like you just don’t want to put in the work required
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
#26954550 - 09/25/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hope you realize, anti psychs will make you gain, and not be able to lose.
Also, I understand your logic, but eating 4,000 cals a day is just that, it doesn't equal 2,000/spread over two days. Make sense?
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 1
#26954551 - 09/25/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gopher I got a fix for you.
Go to a bodybuilder/fitness forum, tell them you are lost in nutrition and exercise and that you'd like them to advise you. Chances are some of them will accept the challenge. These are a group of people who pulled it off to get nutrition and exercise working for them.
They generally have sound advice.
You do seem lost where it comes to diet. you swap from one wild scheme to the next without results.
Let the experts of sticking with the program tell you about their program.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher]
#26954573 - 09/25/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: You do seem lost where it comes to diet. you swap from one wild scheme to the next without results.
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gopher said: im going to ditch the anti-psychotic and see if that helps
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: stimpson]
#26954581 - 09/25/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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(Slight derail here, sorry folks) Hey there stimpy! What is the name of that movie your avvy is from?
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26954594 - 09/25/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is mr. matthew barney from the cremaster cycle.
wow you didn't have that on the tip of your tongue?
jeez we should start a matthew barney thread... i mean a pink floyd/matthew barney/college film student/young garage band/wal-mart/engineer/murika thread.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: gopher] 1
#26954682 - 09/25/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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gopher said: because according to a TDEE calculator I need to eat 2000 calories to maintain, since I eat every other day that means I should eat 4000 calories to maintain, im definitely eating less then 4000 calories on a eating day, but im not losing anything, in fact for my month long egg experiment I was eating like 1400 calories every other day and I seemed to be losing weight, but when I started eating junkfood again it all came back in the last 10 or so days
I just ordered the book "good calories, bad calories" by gary taubes, im going to do that diet to lose weight since total calories are a scam, there must be good calories and bad calories, the books going to teach me those secrets
I just got a box of cereal I got to eat first till I go back on a keto diet, I saw cereal on sale for $4 and I had to buy it, its a huge box of resees pieces cereal
Now you're starting to get it. Hella good on you.
And that is an excellent book you ordered there. I won't lie, it is very densely packed with information you might find pretty boring. It took me a couple of times to read it to really absorb the information. But it's extremely informative and its completely changed my approach to dieting. Hopefully you'll get the same results I have gotten.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#26954739 - 09/25/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The reason people struggle is because in modern days we have made it extremely easy to ingest a high number of calories at little cost or effort. Your typical Starbucks candy drink probably has enough fuel for someone for the whole day if not more, yet they will still be hungry because it has no fiber.
People vastly underestimate their calorie intake. Often failing to acknowledge (whether intentionally or not) that they have eaten, akak absent-minded snacking.
People vastly overestimate their calorie expenditure. For survival the human body is vastly efficient in regards. Walking, while extremely healthy, burns little calories.
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Re: I dont belive in calories anymore, calories are a scam invented by cocacola [Re: badchad] 1
#26954921 - 09/25/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don’t diabetics who inject insulin in the same spots frequently get fat build up in those particular places?Quote:
badchad said:
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gopher said: I now subscribe 100% to the insulin theory of weight gain, insulin is the fat storage hormone so I got to spike insulin less often to lose weight,
I'd be curious to know the data supporting this hypothesis. The most compelling evidence comes from weight gain associated with insulin therapy. For example, diabetics that begin insulin therapy often gain weight (and adipose tissue). However, this isn't related to the insulin per se.
When you increase your insulin (via an "insulin spike") glucose and sugars are removed from your bloodstream. The side effect is you get hungry and eat more.
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