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mysticalshroom975
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Are these cubes?
#26953782 - 09/25/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are a few very thin, pale looking mushrooms growing with my cubes. Are these different strains of cubes, or are they more likely different mushrooms that ended up growing together. I got the spores from a less well established guy online with good prices. They kind of look like Enokitake. Or could they be Panaeolus cyanescens?
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That's interesting. Pan cyan pins start with a brown cap. I don't think that's pan cyan.
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Its all cubes suffering from bad conditions
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It does look like a tiny cube lol
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There’s a thread on contaminant mushrooms somewhere. They seem to be pretty distinguished from cubes for the most part. Your first pic kinda looks like the inky cap shrooms but the second one does look like a half dead cube pin.
Is there a filter on the pictures?? Second one is crazy pixelated.
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Edited by A.k.a (09/25/20 06:48 AM)
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Re: Are these cubes? [Re: A.k.a]
#26954504 - 09/25/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: There’s a thread on contaminant mushrooms somewhere. They seem to be pretty distinguished from cubes for the most part. Your first pic kinda looks like the inky cap shrooms but the second one does look like a half dead cube pin.
Is there a filter on the pictures?? Second one is crazy pixelated.
Sorry about that, I had to use a file reducer because of file size, and I guess it compressed too much. Here's some more pictures that were taken about 10 hours later.
Is there anything I should do to try to identify these? I'll take a print and post it later. It's also worth noting that colinization was painfully slow. I think it took a month to colonize coir from grain. Agar to now has been about three months.

Here's some more close ups. It readily bruises blue.
Edited by mysticalshroom975 (09/25/20 01:52 PM)
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bodhisatta said: Its all cubes suffering from bad conditions
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Sub too wet/ and/or overmisted. That's also why the one you posted above looks sporeless. Happens in those conditions.
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Edited by alaskappalachian (09/25/20 02:36 PM)
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bodhisatta said: Its all cubes suffering from bad conditions
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Sub too wet/ and/or overmisted. That's also why the one you posted above looks sporeless. Happens in those conditions.
I could see that. I recall the substrate seeming too wet when squeezed. Its odd that it would produce two distinctly different morphologies though... Could they still be of the same strain? I tried my best to create a monostrain in agar before colonizing grain.
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They're the same *variety unless you intentionally mixed in genetics from another variety of cube. It's hard to get a true monoculture (not saying you didn't isolate a true mono but often people assume that's what they have when they just have a very narrowed down culture but not a mono)- so you'll still get variance. Even if you had a monoculture, environmental factors will produce differentiation like you see. Just like bacterial interactions will cause a true monoculture to mutate into a variety of forms. They'd still have commonalities, but be visually different. It's easy to go a little over field capacity. Happens. I always prep mine fairly dry because with my wild temperature swings, overly wet sub will really fuck the perimeter of my surface over from condensation; let alone the smaller fruits/ darker caps/mutations it can cause. Don't be afraid to go a little drier than you think you need to. I tell people that you never really learn field capacity by videos or teks. You learn it via results. Good on you for delving into agar btw bud.
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Edited by alaskappalachian (09/25/20 08:08 PM)
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Interesting, I imagine if I don't add any water for the next flush, that will help dry it out.
Btw, what are your thoughts on drenching the block in water between flushes, I'd think that the coir would hold onto too much water. But perhaps if the mycelium is more dense, it would absorb a proper amount and not get absolutely drenched.
I think what I'm going to do is choose a mushroom that I like and pull a couple plugs from the inner flesh to grow onto agar and create a slant. I think that would more reliably create a monoculture and more consistency. Its crazy how environmental factors can create such inconsistencies. I had no idea.
The spore print as promised earlier. One is quite faint.
Edited by mysticalshroom975 (09/25/20 10:25 PM)
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