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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: christopera] 4
#26952846 - 09/24/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's all about the kind of role police serve. Of course you need some kind of police force, but they don't need do be doing these high stakes traffic stops fishing for drugs to arrest people for. Or busting down doors with no knock warrants to the same end. Oops, wrong address this time.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: psi] 1
#26952860 - 09/24/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The police are different class of citizen. Even when acting as civilians they aren’t beholden to the same rules as the rest of us.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: christopera]
#27068898 - 12/02/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: viraldrome] 1
#27070699 - 12/03/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty much in the camp of 'acab' (as its usually explained) but I think its a terrible slogan that serves only to confuse, and has probably hurt the police reform movement way way more than it's helped.
This is probably because its not a very organized political movement, but largely a response of angry people spread through the fun-house mirrors of social media and twitter.
There is 100% a problem with policing in the USA and Canada and many other nations to be sure, but simply removing funding is not something any reasonably informed leftist should want imo. Even if you are a true anarchist or an old-school lefty libertarian, you should still appreciate that we can't just achieve a better society overnight with such ham-fisted approaches.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
#27071007 - 12/04/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Calm_A_Llama_Down said: The police have too much money. It's a fact. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be any police. It means that they don't need all that equipment, they don't need so many people, they don't need to be arresting people over drug possession and they shouldn't be allowed to have unions.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27071015 - 12/04/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think refund and reallocate police funding is stupid period, I prefer Biden's plans of putting more funding into training officers and doing better vetting.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: psi]
#27071137 - 12/04/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said: Also, defund ≠ abolish. Just sayin.

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Calm_A_Llama_Down said: The police have too much money. It's a fact. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be any police. It means that they don't need all that equipment, they don't need so many people, they don't need to be arresting people over drug posession and they shouldn't be allowed to have unions.

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psi said: It's all about the kind of role police serve. Of course you need some kind of police force, but they don't need do be doing these high stakes traffic stops fishing for drugs to arrest people for. Or busting down doors with no knock warrants to the same end. Oops, wrong address this time.

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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#27071419 - 12/04/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: I think refund and reallocate police funding is stupid period, I prefer Biden's plans of putting more funding into training officers and doing better vetting.
You first need to establish that the current funding is even necessary and if the current laws are worth being enforced. Defunding the police is no different than the private sector reducing their workforce because they find it more efficient and more profitable. In other words, the current law enforcement system would have a very hard time justifying it's current funding.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: qman] 1
#27071561 - 12/04/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said:
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Seriously_trippin said: I think refund and reallocate police funding is stupid period, I prefer Biden's plans of putting more funding into training officers and doing better vetting.
You first need to establish that the current funding is even necessary and if the current laws are worth being enforced. Defunding the police is no different than the private sector reducing their workforce because they find it more efficient and more profitable. In other words, the current law enforcement system would have a very hard time justifying it's current funding.
luckily for them they basically don't have to justify their own cost I totally agree though, especially when we consider how much is spent continuing the war on drugs and cops just stopping random people to meet their quotas. I wouldn't want a society without any form of police, but it seems pretty clear their value is wildly overstated by the 'blue lives matter' crowd
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: Ezuma] 1
#27071688 - 12/04/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Police should all be volunteer based. And departments should have a board of directors that's made up of citizens that live in the jurisdiction.
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Re: "Defund the police" activist Alyssa Milano calls police on kid with BB gun [Re: bodhisatta]
#27071760 - 12/04/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Police should all be volunteer based. And departments should have a board of directors that's made up of citizens that live in the jurisdiction.
the board of directors aspect sounds maybe feasible, I do think cops should get paid though.
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